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Maybe "their own fault is a poor choice of words". I just honestly feel if you can
avoid this entirely, why not just avoid it?
and yes, you can
Maybe "their own fault is a poor choice of words". I just honestly feel if you canavoid this entirely, why not just avoid it?and yes, you can
Maybe "their own fault is a poor choice of words". I just honestly feel if you canavoid this entirely, why not just avoid it?and yes, you can
Poor choice of words? If I am understanding your sentence you mean words from the cess-pit riddled gobs of the idiots that spout said words?
I understand certain regions / countries have their own colloquialisms that may be taken the wrong way (rightly or wrongly so) if you are not familiar with them but the utter bollocks in the OP is not a poor choice of word(s). It goes beyond that in an exponentially large manner.
He meant that when he was victim blaming the people subjected this harassment he used a "poor choice of words".
Agreed.ffs, there should be a zero tolerance policy with this shit.
One warning and if it happens again permaban. Come on Blizzard/Sony/Microsoft...
And not just Overwatch, everywhere.
Maybe "their own fault is a poor choice of words". I just honestly feel if you canavoid this entirely, why not just avoid it?and yes, you can
Right? Live as a minority in this world and your whole life is basically "growing thicker skin""Growing a thicker skin" is not going to help anyone. Some people have been growing their skin for decades, and it hasn't got any better. Honestly that kind of attitude is pretty awful to have.
Because then you let these assholes win.
These assholes have been winning. I've been playing online since Halo2 and voice chat is always gonna be the same. Theres always gonna be turds who sour the whole thing.He meant that when he was victim blaming the people subjected this harassment he used a "poor choice of words".
It's honestly time for the people making the games (Not just Blizzard) to take a lot more responsibility. It varies from company to company but for the most part they are all failing to make the the online social experiences something to be enjoyed, these days mostly everyone just mutes all lines of communication because it's so bad.
It's not easy at all to fix but it's come to the point where it NEEDS to be fixed, set up a system with actual people working full time dealing with harassment in their games, use their anti cheating systems to punish major offenders when valid proof is provided.
I don't believe at all that any company so far has taken this issue as seriously as they actually should and I wouldn't be surprised if it's because they are worried about pushing customers away, they just do enough to look like they are trying.
These assholes have been winning. I've been playing online since Halo2 and voice chat is always gonna be the same. Theres always gonna be turds who sour the whole thing.
What? I've played countless games online that appealed to different people.This is not Halo 2, This is Overwatch. This game was made for everyone. It appeals to women, it appeals to people of different colour. Look at the cast of characters.
For once, I just wish we could not let the racists and misogynists win.
Just once.
Big online games have multiple 100k people, some games even millions concurrently playing games in multiple languages all over the globe. If you want a live team policing that you need a bit more than a few "full time employees".
It's about as realistic as policing youtube or facebook by hand. and overwatch is a 60$ game... many online games nowadays have a very low barrier of entry or are completely free. Banned players can just sign up again.
I really doubt companies like Blizzard, Riot ect. do "the absolute minimum", since they would clearly benefit a lot from a pleasent online experience.
Yeah, yes. Disagree all you want, but much like in MOBAs, if an individual is a non-contributor and refuses to be a team player, they bring the rest of the team down with them. This is going to upset your teammates in a competitive game mode where a lot of your focus is on winning, period. Whether or not they choose to be vocal about it is a function of their personality.
To be clear, this never justifies sexist, insulting, and/or otherwise offensive dialog towards anyone, but it is what it is.
ffs, there should be a zero tolerance policy with this shit.
One warning and if it happens again permaban. Come on Blizzard/Sony/Microsoft...
And not just Overwatch, everywhere.
Not just Overwatch but I've found Blizzard games in general to have very toxic communities. This is probably just because their games are extremely popular and thus more people playing= more assholes. I have no idea how you could ever fix it. Over the years I've learned how to deal with it but I do feel bad for those who may not be able to handle it as well.
I was joking the prevailing proposal for people dealing with harassment is "log off", which is obviously stupid and ineffectual.I don't have a Twitter so I'm not sure what it is you're implying here
I was joking the prevailing proposal for people dealing with harassment is "log off", which is obviously stupid and ineffectual.
I agree with this. There needs to be real consequences in place.
I want to congratulate Angry Fork for winning the Most Representative Of All The Problems With Online Gamers award in this thread.
Their games are cesspools of shit, they are failing their community and like I said the idea that it's not easy to fix means people shouldn't bother should no longer be accepted. These people are literally in charge of the infrastructure there is a lot more they can be doing and they are not and honestly it should no longer be accepted and I'm tired of people accepting it.
Neogaf is a perfect example of stringent moderating done to keep it together, and it has thousands of members with a fraction of them being moderators. If they took harassment as seriously as they take cheating then this wouldn't be an issue,
A friend of mine has a speech impediment that will cause him to stammer over his words quite loudly. Of course, in a public voice channel, sounding different is a excuse for abuse. Usually he'd have me and a couple of other guys fighting his corner with a dry sense of humor. But then we're abusing the abuser, and the cycle continues.
Without condoning the behavior of these people, my friend has developed quite a thick skin as a result of the abuse. There was a point in his life that he would refuse to socialize because he knew he'd be tormented. Today, he just doesn't care. He doesn't need acceptance from these dickheads. So when someone mentions his stammer now, the indifference in his response is a glorious sight to behold.
Again, people shouldn't have to go through this kind of stuff, and it'd be ignorant to suggest my friend is completely immune to abuse and that he isn't still occasionally hurt by it. But the character building, as a direct result, can't be ignored and his ability to handle the torment has given him a better quality of life.
Of course everyone's case is different, but I think it's interesting how so much hatred and negativity can be turned into a huge positive depending on the reaction of the person receiving it.
But this is better than nothing right? I mean, one of my friend's got a chat ban once and it was super debilitating for him - and really frustrating for us trying to communicate.
Surely if people were routinely banned from voice and text chat in OW some people, at least, might try and curb their behaviour?
It's fucking crazy that this shit still isn't getting any better. So many cunty player of games still think that men have some kind of ownership of this hobby. I'm not sure regular bans would suffice anyway, people already make throwaway accounts for Overwatch. You'd think the decent diversity would put utter cunts off playing but nope.
You'd think it would be easy and simple to report it in this day and age.
Crazy thing is ive put over 100 hours into the game in competitive, and always used a microphone. I can only think of maybe 5 times when someone was being toxic.
People need to not be shitty, but it's really as easy as hitting "p" on the keyboard and muting someone the second they get shitty.
I was legitimately shocked the last time I heard someone immediately start off trolling. Got into a match, said hi, and some guy just starts off with, "hey fag you like dicks?! Lol haha wow".
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Pressed P, muted him, that was the end of it. Everyone else was fine.
Can imagine that getting old for women though.