feynoob
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Man I have a lot of stupid Twitter posts about this deal that I want to show here. Sadly, we have to follow this rule. Don't want us to contaminate this thread with their posts.
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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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The Pleasure
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feynoob
Banned
Your favorite guy.Which one of you did this?
feynoob
Banned
My stupid ass is confused on how this is getting higher, when the deal is basically going to die after one month.
Activision Blizzard Inc
NASDAQ: ATVI
81.97 USD +0.52 (0.64%)today
Closed: Jun 16, 5:13 PM EDT • Disclaimer
After hours 82.00 +0.030 (0.037%)
GHG
how is this possible? Is it due to Diablo 4?
Activision Blizzard Inc
NASDAQ: ATVI
81.97 USD +0.52 (0.64%)today
Closed: Jun 16, 5:13 PM EDT • Disclaimer
After hours 82.00 +0.030 (0.037%)
GHG
how is this possible? Is it due to Diablo 4?
MasterCornholio
Member
Why do you even believe that people like Florian would be useful here?
Topher
Identifies as young
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MasterCornholio
Member
Him and all the idiots on twitter who hang on his every word.
At this point their tweets only spread misinformation and I don't believe it contributes to this thread at all. As I said earlier there are much better sources than Sage and Florian.
Son_of_Zardoz
Banned
Drop the persecution complex.
For as pro-MS as the other site is, you guys are kidding yourselves if you don't realize this place is on the opposite end of the spectrum.
Suddenly everyone is onboard with how relatively close we are to cloud being a major factor in gaming after years of thread after thread shitting on it here.
On top of that virtually anyone with an opinion contrary to the majority is now a shill. And now it's reached the point of people "not adding to the discussion" with those posts but hold on let's add more posts that are just gifs because that certainly does, lol.
Suddenly everyone is onboard with how relatively close we are to cloud being a major factor in gaming after years of thread after thread shitting on it here.
On top of that virtually anyone with an opinion contrary to the majority is now a shill. And now it's reached the point of people "not adding to the discussion" with those posts but hold on let's add more posts that are just gifs because that certainly does, lol.
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feynoob
Banned
To examine how far can a human person descend to madness.
Him and sensu transformation needs a study for psychological purposes.
feynoob
Banned
My friend, this is a gaming forum. Don't take anything here seriously.
Most of us will go back to our boring days once this saga ends.
MasterCornholio
Member
That's not the purpose of this thread.
reinking
Gold Member
I can see where you can form that opinion but there have been very real shills exposed here. As for cloud gaming, I still hope that is not the future, but it was MS internal documents that made cloud gaming an issue for the regulators.
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tryDEATH
Member
At no point did MS go out and say that CoD will become an exclusive Xbox/PC game. From the start they wanted to offer guarantees to Sony and expanded CoD's reach to the Switch. The mergers impact on consoles overall when it came to CoD would only be positive.
tryDEATH
Member
I certainly didn't consider that sort of classification. I considered it simply a shift in each companies vision of what they wanted to do with their consoles, not that they wanted their own classification and separate themselves from the gaming market and corner them selves as a niche market. PS went with VR and Nintendo went with portability at the end of the day they still make games and often you can play the same game on all 4 platforms with varying graphics and features based on the systems power. The biggest games in the last 5 years have been available on all platforms with Fortnite. The reason why the games you mentioned aren't on Nintendo is due to the businesses making a financial decision, not because they are impossible to make on that platform.
Slicker than your average
Banned
I don't use or sub to anyone twitter.Now that's a hall of fame if I ever saw one.
Your first mistake was subscribing to the red shitter's twitter feed in the first place
Topher
Identifies as young
Those are some really poor assumptions. This thread had a lot more debate from those in favor of the acquisition until the CMA decided to block. After that, some up and disappeared. It is what it is.
I don't know who here is saying cloud gaming becoming a major market any time soon. The judgement of the CMA is based on the future of that market. Both the EU and the CMA called cloud gaming "nascent" and yet both said there are problems with this acquisition in that space. And while you generalize those here "shitting on it here", I've had plenty of discussions on this very site with those who say cloud gaming is the inevitable future of gaming. So that generalization just doesn't work.
How are you any better generalizing anyone who is against the acquisition as conducting a shill witch hunt though? That's no more accurate than folks with "contrary opinions" being shills. It's these meta commentary posts like yours that I think are not particularly useful.
As far as the gifs.....this you?
GHG
Gold Member
My stupid ass is confused on how this is getting higher, when the deal is basically going to die after one month.
Activision Blizzard Inc
NASDAQ: ATVI
81.97 USD +0.52 (0.64%)today
Closed: Jun 16, 5:13 PM EDT • Disclaimer
After hours 82.00 +0.030 (0.037%)
Number of factors:
- The current US stock market is bullish. As the inflows in the indexes (SPY/QQQ are the main ones) continue to increase the fund managers are forced to buy the underlyings that make up those indexes. ATVI makes up 0.16% and 0.42% of SPY and QQQ respectively.
- The company has recently reported strong earnings and their forecasts remain strong.
- The factors that caused the stock price the drop are no longer a focus.
- Strong performance from Diablo 4 and continued strong performance from COD.
- $3b gets added to an already strong balance sheet if the deal fails.
Once all is said and done (if it doesn't go through) it's not unfeasible to imagine the stock comfortably trading above the agreed deal price of $95 a share in the next 18-24 months. People forget, but before the scandals started to surface this was a stock that was trading in the $90—$105 dollars range for a 6 month period between December 2020 and July 2021.
Overall as a business they are very much in a no-lose position. It's just the executive board (Kotick, Lulu, etc) that stand to gain the most in the short term from the deal going through, so obviously they will be pushing hard for it.
Slicker than your average
Banned
This bullshit again. Just like they kept all of Bethesda games multiplat.. after Phil said games wouldn't be made exclusive too.
The lie dispenser only offered that to help get the deal through. Cod was 100% going to be exclusive like everything else.
Sole purpose of having all the cod clowns who only buy and play cod sub to gamepass. Would probably add 10 million subs.
GHG
Gold Member
And please tell us, what did you think you were adding with this post? What do you think you're contributing?
Is it informative? No.
Is it educational? No.
Is it entertaining? No.
Does it serve as a basis for a discussion/debate on the subject at hand? No.
So in summary:
Thirty7ven
Banned
Cloud is growing but it’s still a small market in proportion. People’s opinions on cloud now doesn’t really matter much in relation to where these companies want to take it in the near and medium term.
It’s a bit like remote play, which wasn’t so hot years ago but now it works extremely well.
We can talk about the merits of blocking the deal on the basis of cloud. It was a surprise, but it’s also a surprise that console is not a problem even in markets where they are very competitive.
You want to talk about that other forum, well the narrative being pushed there now is that somehow PC and consoles are the same market. Well that’s just ridiculous.
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L*][*N*K
Banned
I know that, is not my question
Topher
Identifies as young
No, you are the person complaining about the discussion as a whole. If you want to address someone in particular then feel free, but that's not what you are doing.
The discussions on cloud gaming show there is some debate on the matter. Whether it is the "prevailing opinion" or not is irrelevant. You presented one side as if it is the only side. It isn't. Like I said, poor assumptions on your part.
So your contribution to this thread has been a gif, a pic and two posts whining about everything including gifs and pics.
tryDEATH
Member
It isn't bullshit MS offered a 10 year guarantee right away to Sony, which Sony rejected themselves and isn't even considered an issue of exclusivity with either the EC or CMA.
There was no such offer or even talk when Bethesda was acquired. They clearly stated games that are on those platforms would stay there, no mention of Starfield, Redfall, or any future game from Bethesda on PS/Nintendo unless MS choose otherwise.
Topher
Identifies as young
Microsoft offered a three year deal initially, not ten.
Kilau
Member
They started with a promise to honor the current contract.(January 2022)
Then it was a 3 year deal.(September 2022)
Then it was a 10 year deal.(October 2022)
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Then we find out those 10 year deals, they keep 100% of the DLC revenue/profit.
The Pleasure
Gold Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The Pleasure
Gold Member
What you shoulda said is that Daddy moderator will lower ITS ASS on you.I think we would have to see the post to make that determination for ourselves. There have been plenty of posts throwing shade at Sony and their "stupid shit" throughout this thread. Don't pretend that's not the case.
I'd tone down the persecution complex bullshit though if I were you. Mods seem to have had enough of that.
RickMasters
Member
No way! They will find something else to fight about for 1000 pages!
RickMasters
Member
He said “case by case basis”. Not “ games wouldn’t be made exclusive”
I know Phil does a lot of double speak but that was pretty clear to most people. And for 7Bn I wouldn’t be putting those games on anything but my own platforms anyway. Common sense if you are trying to grow your own customer base,
MasterCornholio
Member
I see some are complaining about shill hunting. But the truth is we did have shills that created multiple alts in this thread. Its a shame because they make actual fans look bad because they get associated with the brand.
To those that keep creating accounts please stop it.
To those that keep creating accounts please stop it.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
1) Phil said, before the acquisition, that the Bethesda acquisition was not done to take their games off other platforms. Then, after the acquisition closed, he said that the acquisition was done for exclusive games.
2) They did submit to regulators that they had no financial incentive to make Zenimax games exclusive (no mention of case by case at all). The same thing they submitted to regulators during the ABK acquisition, i.e., they have no financial incentive to make ABK games exclusive.
cornonthecrobb
Banned
cod will become exclusive... if you believe otherwise you haven't been paying attention
graywolf323
Member
case by case but they’ve sure made it sound like even Elder Scrolls VI will be exclusive while claiming through this that COD is too big to be exclusive
yet Skyrim sold 60m copies and Xbox seems fully willing to make the next one exclusive
so what ‘case’ would they actually make a game multiplatform from Bethesda? Redfall is a co-op shooter yet one of the first things they did was cancel the PS5 version
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MasterCornholio
Member
case by case but they’ve sure made it sound like even Elder Scrolls VI will be exclusive while claiming through this that COD is too big to be exclusive
yet Skyrim sold 60m copies and Xbox seems fully willing to make the next one exlusive
I'm definitely not expecting to see any Bethesda games on PlayStation. Microsoft can do what they want with them but it does make regulators ask them questions about this.
GHG
Gold Member
Fuck the acquisition. We need to nominate
It's not like you guys haven't learned and had some sound investing advice from him.
There's already one in the OT section mate, it just doesn't get much interest at all.
Don't think it's a topic that interests most people here unfortunately.
PaintTinJr
Member
It depends which side of the deal.
I could maybe see Microsoft's Frat house attempt to buy ATVI being block to have a more melancholy tune - like this Sony Music published number by The Script.
The lyrics could be tweaked to apply to many aspects of the deal. Though I image the most literal one for some here might be "her" in the track as a reference to Lulu
bender
What time is it?
Ronin_7
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Orrrrr we’ve just caught Florian in here actually shilling.
Aaaand it’s blatantly obvious when ancient Neo accounts pop up, or accounts with 200 posts over the past 5-10 years show up just to shill for this acquisition and contribute nothing else to this forum.
Aaaand they all have the same dim witted writing style, ignore counter points rather than engage honestly, none of them set profile pictures because this is their job etc etc.
Pretty easy to identify to be honest.
feynoob
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.Unknown Soldier
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I've been saying that since the first day I posted in this thread. There are plenty of people who have been paying attention.
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