Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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James Sawyer Ford said:
Sony is doing this because resources at a major studio are not infinite. It is impossible to achieve 100% parity for all platforms. When CoD moves over to Xbox, it's in the same boat - studio resources shift over to Xbox, and PS will be a lesser priority and thus have worse performance, bugs, etc.
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Ok so if it's not intentional, who's problem is that?
 
ChorizoPicozo said:
exactly.
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Ozriel said:
Why are you asking him? He isn't the one telling the CMA that MS doing stuff like this could lead to a catastrophe for Playstation.

Why don't you guys grow the habit of reading a few posts for context before hitting the reply button?
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There is a difference between ABK not owned by a platform holder RIGHT NOW, and owned by MS in the end and still releasing games on other platforms. Now ABK can do whatever they want, sign any deals with every platform holder. There is a big difference when the platform holder also owns the game which they still release on different platforms.

Thats's Sony's whole point. We have seen it with Doom Eternal and Psychonauts 2 (no native build, just PS4 version).
 
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Now that I stated my opinions, continue your fight friends.
 
ManaByte said:
Read my post above. One month early DLC is not the same as locking features and modes off other platforms for the life of the game.

Hell, the Xbox version of COD is barely playable anymore since the ability to disable cross play is exclusive to the PS version. The toggle was there in the XB beta, but they removed it at launch
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Even then I remember friends buying an Xbox just to play those maps early

Plus you can still disable cross play on the Series X you just have to do it at the system level which is indeed not near as easy as PS which is also dumb having to do it that way
 
BrutalTruth_ said:
moving goal posts now? really?
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What goal posts are being moved?

Sony should rightfully be concerned about losing platform parity because that's the reality of how software development works as teams re-prioritize to certain platforms with a finite amount of team resources to ship a game, and it's in Microsoft's interest to prioritize Xbox.
 
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Banjo64 Banjo64

I saw the DM with the mod. I won't go to any great detail with it. He did tell them he was fine with the tag. But there's more to the story that I won't get into.

I apologise for saying he didn't want to keep the tag. But I still have issues with something else he said but I won't go into it since its derailing this topic.
 
MasterCornholio said:
Banjo64 Banjo64

I saw the DM with the mod. I won't go to any great detail with it. He did tell them he was fine with the tag. But there's more to the story that I won't get into.

I apologise for saying he didn't want to keep the tag. But I still have issues with something else he said but I won't go into it since its derailing this topic.
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They were going to change it to M$FT like darkmage but he preferred #SonyToo? /s
 
The_Mike said:
Theres still difference in spreading fear and making unfair demands.

Spreading fear to make you look like the victim and making demands to make you the Victor has two opposite side effects.
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Sony should have capitalized when Microsoft was desperate to get Sony to sign a 10 year deal, Microsoft probably would have caved to some demands. But ehh, that's Monday Morning Quarterbacking.

As for the whole CoD parity thing... Sony argues any small difference between the PS version and Xbox version of a game could cause players to abandon their platform in droves and that would cripple their business so much that no matter what they did they couldn't recover.

Which is ludicrous as there are current examples of the Xbox version of CoD being worse than the PS version, and Xbox is still kicking around.

I think why MLB is relevant, is because Sony claims Microsoft will intentionally make CoD worse on Playstation, but the reality of development is one version will be the baseline and run smoother. Unless Sony is purposely making MLB worse on Xbox, they have to accept that CoD might be marginally worse on Playstation. Not intentionally, but due to the realities of development.
 
PaintTinJr said:
In the UK we've bought everything and anything that is good. Even the RaspberryPI has been a huge success. I can't speak to the rest of the world, but the CMA's remit of the UK definitely has a market where PlayStation's success can be emulated.
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So can't CoD's success be emulated?
 
POKEYCLYDE said:
I think why MLB is relevant, is because Sony claims Microsoft will intentionally make CoD worse on Playstation, but the reality of development is one version will be the baseline and run smoother. Unless Sony is purposely making MLB worse on Xbox, they have to accept that CoD might be marginally worse on Playstation. Not intentionally, but due to the realities of development.
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The realities of development is that COD currently doesn't run worse on Playstation under Activison. Even if Sony were making MLB intentionally worse or because Sony San Diego hadn't really developed on xbox before I'm not sure why people are bringing it up. It went in a better direction with MLB, you went from total blackout to getting it whereas you're going from getting a good quality game to possible partial foreclosure from this acquisition.
 
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Three said:
The realities of development is that COD currently doesn't run worse on Playstation under Activison. Even if Sony were making MLB intentionally worse or because Sony San Diego hadn't really developed on xbox before I'm not sure why people are bringing it up. It went in a better direction with MLB, you went from total blackout to getting it whereas you're going from getting a good quality game to possible partial foreclosure from this acquisition.
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The problem is with what Sony said about comparisons created by DF and others and how gamers used them when selecting which version to buy.

They left themself open to questions about MLB with their own statement.

Now when or if the deal is finally done the lead platform for developing COD would be switched to xbox I would imagine and that would gain advanatage towards xbox because it's the lead hardware. I would imagine PS5 being the lead platform at this moment in time and why we see slight advantages when COD is usually released befor patches come into play later down the road. As pointed out earlier with Sonys own words it doesn't matter about patches improving it down the road as it's usually to late by then and people already made their mind up
 
Three said:
The realities of development is that COD currently doesn't run worse on Playstation under Activison. Even if Sony were making MLB intentionally worse or because Sony San Diego hadn't really developed on xbox before I'm not sure why people are bringing it up. It went in a better direction with MLB, you went from total blackout to getting it whereas you're going from getting a good quality game to possible partial foreclosure from this acquisition.
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Sony is speculating receiving a less than optimal version of game on their platform when they deliver suboptimal games to other platforms. That's why it's being brought up. MS would not be allowed to make excuses if they put out worse versions of games on other platforms so it's odd to give Sony a pass here. More so if Activision is already making an acceptable version of CoD on PlayStation it makes even less sense that after a MS acquisition they would forget how to deliver a quality title and start putting bugs in the final level of the PlayStation version of the game.

MS has repeatedly said they will continue to make CoD on PlayStation and there has been no evidence provided showing that MS does not honor it's agreements. Deathloop and Ghostwire Toyko managed to still be quality games on PlayStation after a MS acquisition and Minecraft has PlayStation VR versions Xbox doesn't have at all. Again Sony's complaints are purely about blocking the deal not about a legitimate concern about MS sabotaging their version of CoD.
 
phil_t98 said:
Now when or if the deal is finally done the lead platform for developing COD would be switched to xbox I would imagine and that would gain advanatage towards xbox because it's the lead hardware. I would imagine PS5 being the lead platform at this moment in time and why we see slight advantages when COD is usually released befor patches come into play later down the road. As pointed out earlier with Sonys own words it doesn't matter about patches improving it down the road as it's usually to late by then and people already made their mind up
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The comparison is daft though even if we assume it's intentional. xbox wasn't getting an equal version before, it was getting no version at all. Then a Sony studio started making an xbox port albeit with lower framerate replays or not. That's a net positive for the platform. With this it's going the other way. PS was getting an equal or better version of an independent studios output and somebody coming to buy the publisher could degrade what they were getting before.
 
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Three said:
The comparison is daft though even if we assume it's intentional. xbox wasn't getting an equal version before, it was getting no version at all. Then a Sony studio started making an xbox port. That's a net positive. With this it's going the other way. PS was getting an equal or better version of an independent studios output and somebody coming to buy the publisher could degrade what they were getting before.
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Don't bother common sense doesn't fit the narrative.
 
Three said:
The comparison is daft though even if we assume it's intentional. xbox wasn't getting an equal version before, it was getting no version at all. Then a Sony studio started making an xbox port albeit with lower framerate replays or not. That's a net positive for the platform. With this it's going the other way. PS was getting an equal or better version of an independent studios output and somebody coming to buy the publisher could degrade what they were getting before.
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so people who own an xbox should be happy to have a worse port of a game because they didn't have it before?
 
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