its a preview, they always gather much more info from these builds. it won't be in the final version.
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Microsoft Announces Windows 10
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MarcoZombieCannon
Member
Oh shit, Microsoft will find out the password to my Microsoft account.
Those monsters!
Syphon Filter
Member
Do you know if it gets error data? That would be cool if they can see a user had errors with a game or something and they can find a way to fix it.
I've had it send a bunch of error data so far.
Syphon Filter
Member
You can do that manually? How?
SerTapTap
Member
Win + Shift + left/right (move windows between monitors) doesn't seem to work? Really hope that's just a bug. I think it's just buggy enough I can't use it for now, no biggie, but I love the changes. Start menu and metro windows are what Windows 8 should have always been. Performance seems great. Desktop apps in app store BUT standard x86 apps installing as always is exactly how it should be. UAC seems just a bit less annoying so I think I can finally leave it on.
Chance Hale
Member
Think I'll revert for now, the battery issues with the Surface Pro 2 are too much of a drain. Plus, Microsoft doesn't need to know about my taste in women 
mohsinkhan
Member
Anyone having an issue on boot? My laptop goes to a black screen, then I need to do a hard reset to make it work.
A keylogger is a slight bit excessive.
I don't think I'm gonna boot up that particular virtual machine again until Microsoft addresses this publicly.
The Cowboy
Member
What is there for them to address?, they said on the actual preview site everything that the technical preview was going to access and one of those was logging what you type (for pretty obvious reasons if you understand what a technical preview is for).
if people don't understand what joining a technical preview entails and they can't read lines that specifically state to NOT put this on everyday computers on which you value your privacy, then they should not be using the technical preview full stop - its really that simple.
MS has done nothing wrong and they don't need to make any statement, everything about what the preview entails is on the actual website that people used to download the preview OS on - if the people who have issues with the logging can't be bothered to read what is easily accessible and very clear on the preview website then its that persons problem - NOT Microsofts.
I was part of the official testing program for XP, Vista, and 7... none of those had keyloggers. They collected all sorts of info, which I was OK with, but not everything you typed.
Angelus Errare
Banned
This. So tired of people complaining about fucking alpha/beta code in general.
You know that for sure? Or is it more likely the press didn't care to investigate/report on the issue?
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Been running this since yesterday and so far I really like it. One thing I would like to see reverted back to Windows 8 functionality is modern apps should open on the monitor you launch them from. Instead they behave like desktop apps and open on your main monitor.
I also miss having the charms bar pop up when you get to the corner of your monitor, it was an easy way for me to check the time without having to click anything, although I see that the option is there in preferences so maybe it's just not working yet.
I didn't use themes in Windows 8 so I'm not sure if it's the same but I'm using one in Win 10 and I like how it picks different wallpapers for each monitor when shuffling through them.
I also miss having the charms bar pop up when you get to the corner of your monitor, it was an easy way for me to check the time without having to click anything, although I see that the option is there in preferences so maybe it's just not working yet.
I didn't use themes in Windows 8 so I'm not sure if it's the same but I'm using one in Win 10 and I like how it picks different wallpapers for each monitor when shuffling through them.
Sir Abacus
Member
I know you're being facetious but no sane internet provider stores passwords or even encrypted passwords. Salted hashes all the way. Not even Microsoft knows the password to your Microsoft account.
NDAs and stuff, but among testers it would have been detected.
put that stuff in the feedback app, they seem to be listening and all of the features have not been locked down yet. maybe your concerns will be addressed.
Syphon Filter
Member
How do you know when an update comes? Does it come up automatically or do i check somewhere? Also are their patch notes?
Iced_Eagle
Member
Nobody really knows quite yet.
However, if I were to guess, it would just be a part of Patch Tuesday, but will include feature updates, in addition to reliability/security updates. Every update also comes with a KB article (essentially patch notes), so they will almost definitely continue that.
One thing I hope they will do is have a notification when you log-in the first time after a feature update, with a quick overview of what's fixed/added/changed. It would be better to have it as a push-model instead of a pull-model with me having to go to the KB article site.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
I just looked and someone had posted the exact same thing so I Me Tooed it.
Oh it wasn't manual, it happened after a program kept crashing.
HarryDemeanor
Member
Aero is dead.
Chance Hale
Member
So I totally forgot that the Surface Pro 2 uses an oem product key and can't be pulled to create an installable media drive. Did I totally fuck myself over?
Be smart kids, use VM!
Be smart kids, use VM!
This. It's like they've done a complete 180 on advertising & production, etc.
This. A thousand times this. It's like when Apple release the iOS betas and people pay to get added to a developer device list to turn their phone into a slow, buggy mess that will lose all their data as soon as they sneeze. And then they complain in their thousands "Boo-hoo! I'm switching to Android!"
This software isn't about getting the new Windows for free, a year before everyone else and looking awesome. It's about getting the technology out there for IT professionals to get up to speed with and to give Microsoft realtime feedback as to what works and what doesn't. so that when version 1.0 comes next year, it's as good as they can make it.
Microsoft don't owe people shit. People owe it to themselves to read about what they are installing and understand what terms like "alpha", "beta" and "technology preview" really mean.
Kiru
Member
Look here for Windows 8 aero without messing with system files, www.glass8.eu
don't install this! i installed the 8.1 version and got an endless loop of errors and i had to use system restore to get my pc back to normal.
Isn't it just Win+left/right to move the windows (also notice that on some applications this doesn't work).
Hehehe
Chance Hale
Member
I put it on my Surface Pro 2 because I only use it for browsing/office so incompatibilities/bugs aren't a huge deal but I wasn't expecting them to keylog. Totally my fault for not actually reading what it entailed though, or using a VM. Just really wanted the use the music app in a window, lol. Battery issues are the main problem at the moment, but in most cases it's pretty near a charger.
Seems like I'm now stuck with it though, my main desktop is a 7 to 8 to 8.1 upgraded computer so I can't create installation media. And even if I could it's tied to the specific cd key right? How do OEM copies of 8.1 work? If I find a CD copy or do manage to create installation media would it eventually register itself?
It just passed my mind completely that the Surface Pro 2 doesn't actually come with with a CD key. And back when I upgraded from 8, to 8.1 preview, to 8.1 I used some absurd workaround method to upgrade without having to clear my hard drive so I forgot that 8 CD keys don't work for 8.1(because they do when you upgrade and put them in later)
Seems like I'm now stuck with it though, my main desktop is a 7 to 8 to 8.1 upgraded computer so I can't create installation media. And even if I could it's tied to the specific cd key right? How do OEM copies of 8.1 work? If I find a CD copy or do manage to create installation media would it eventually register itself?
It just passed my mind completely that the Surface Pro 2 doesn't actually come with with a CD key. And back when I upgraded from 8, to 8.1 preview, to 8.1 I used some absurd workaround method to upgrade without having to clear my hard drive so I forgot that 8 CD keys don't work for 8.1(because they do when you upgrade and put them in later)
Dorsal Axe
Member
I like having pure white, borderless windows. Looks just like the Zune software and Office 2013. Should be the default. Aero can stay dead and buried, as much as I like its translucency.
I just wish we could change the Start Menu and Taskbar colours independently of the window colour, since at the moment I've got this strong, icky grey tint for those elements. Actually I'd prefer those to be translucent (I remember a leaked screen showed a translucent Start Menu) and keep the windows solid white.
Also, I'm struggling to understand the purpose of the Search pane. The start menu does the exact same thing, and quicker too. There doesn't appear to be any way to remove the button though.
I just wish we could change the Start Menu and Taskbar colours independently of the window colour, since at the moment I've got this strong, icky grey tint for those elements. Actually I'd prefer those to be translucent (I remember a leaked screen showed a translucent Start Menu) and keep the windows solid white.
Also, I'm struggling to understand the purpose of the Search pane. The start menu does the exact same thing, and quicker too. There doesn't appear to be any way to remove the button though.
mugurumakensei
Member
aero is dead and thank god for that. Metro is a pleasant compromise between the lightweight classic scheme and a beautiful looking ui.
SerTapTap
Member
No, that's a different thing that's meant to change windows to full/halfleft/halfright, win shift left/right would move the whole window, as is, to the monitor left/right. Was extremely useful for my 3 monitor setup where the third monitor is occasionally off or being used as a console display instead of a PC display. Just focus the window from the taskbar, win shift left and boom it's on the middle monitor.
edit: oh wow, it's in win 7 too, amazed it's not in 10. Like I said, hopefully an oversight.
Ahh, I always used win+left/right to move them around, three taps on left would switch to the next screen
. But as I mentioned I noticed it didn't work with all applications.Zombie James
Banned
Still surprised at how many people are giving feedback about wanting it back. Aero was tacky as hell.
InaudibleWhispa
Member
I used the charms to check the time too when I have my PC connected to my TV and I can't see the taskbar clock. My solution was to pin a live clock tile on the start menu. It's called TimeMe.
SerTapTap
Member
Ahh, I always used win+left/right to move them around, three taps on left would switch to the next screen
Yeah I don't think it works with non-resizable stuff, which isn't a problem with win-shift.
I believe even retail versions of Windows do this. Win 8.1 wanted to submit a bunch of crash dumps of the game I'm working on to MS so they could fix it, lol.
BishopLamont
Banned
lol can't believe they fixed the command prompt paste thing, that was really annoying.
They still need to add tabs to it to make it complete.
Until then I'll probably stick with ConEmu because it's pretty awesome . . . although it does seem to have an issue with having Powershell as a remote console for a Linux box. While using Nano, it's crashed a few times when I try to move the cursor around using the arrow keys.
https://code.google.com/p/conemu-maximus5/
I think they should include a "full screen" option for metro apps, so that they revert to 8.1 behaviour so that they sit beside the desktop rather than on top of the desktop.
I like that you can have something like a twitter app or music app or email open in a tiny sliver of screen on the side, and the desktop is contained to its own part.
I like that you can have something like a twitter app or music app or email open in a tiny sliver of screen on the side, and the desktop is contained to its own part.
MmmSkyscraper
Unconfirmed Member
Skype (metro) is kinda crashy, will disappear at random. Also keeps asking if mic and webcam are allowed at startup, which can be hidden under other windows or displayed on the wrong monitor.
I'll probably switch back to the desktop version anyway seeing as I only used the metro version for the snap.
I'll probably switch back to the desktop version anyway seeing as I only used the metro version for the snap.
I just tried between the Mail app and miRC. Works fine.