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Microsoft Announces Windows 10
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The Cowboy
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I swear i can't tell a difference between the old build and the new build when using them, in fact he new build keeps bugging out in that newly opened apps wont show on them until you go back to the original desktop and then back again.
Edit.
Scratch the 2nd part, they are bugging out on the normal desktop to.
Whogie
Member
WMP's GUI is nice and out of the way. I rarely need more than to change streams with LAV Splitter's task tray tool. If I do need more I'll open something else.
HarryDemeanor
Member
They didn't state how long in the blog. I don't think it would be too long though. It should just be the same build that Fast users get but by then all of the bugs would be noted.
Not a fan of the closing animation. I haven't noticed a new opening animation?
PS. I just saw the opening animation in eclipse, but only for the Workspace popup. I do actually like the closing animation when it's paired with the opening animation for popups, but it bothers me when Chrome closes with the closing animation.
PPS. OK, so like all of eclipse now is affected by both the opening and closing animations. As before, I do like it for popups, but not so much for the main part of the program.
PS. I just saw the opening animation in eclipse, but only for the Workspace popup. I do actually like the closing animation when it's paired with the opening animation for popups, but it bothers me when Chrome closes with the closing animation.
PPS. OK, so like all of eclipse now is affected by both the opening and closing animations. As before, I do like it for popups, but not so much for the main part of the program.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
It pops out like it hit your screen monitor and then fell onto your desktop. Essentially when the window expands, the apex of its size is just slightly larger than the final size at the end of the animation.
This build is all kind of wonky. Text is all messed up, my audio does not work at all and my connection is spotty (I know MS said it would be in their blog).
Does anyone have an app called "DockingController" listed under All Apps? It was never there before and it won't open.
Does anyone have an app called "DockingController" listed under All Apps? It was never there before and it won't open.
Syphon Filter
Member
Yea i noticed the docking controller too and it won't open. In terms of text i haven't had any issues. Here is a tweet:
Gabriel Aul retweeted
Paul Thurrott @thurrott · 6h 6 hours ago
Good advice RT @sbisson If you are seeing missing characters in Windows 10 build 9860, install update that's waiting. It seems to fix things
Picked up the Garth Brooks Ultimate Hits collection at Walmart today. Ripped the CDs, and noticed a DVD, stuck it in my Windows 8 PC and ..................... Go to google, and apparently Windows 8 doesn't have a native DVD player. What the hell?
Then I see there's Windows Media Center, cool............ what, I have to pay for it?
Come on game companies, on to the Linux train!!!!!!!
Thanks! I didn't see an update until I used the Control Panel to find it. Everything seemes fixed so far.
Upsidedown Fuji
Member
Don't forget to use the feedback program guys. They're obviously listening and maybe if you're lucky your issue will be corrected in a future build. Just don't expect everything you want fixed.
Iced_Eagle
Member
Likely once it has been determined stable by those in the fast flight group. Similar to how Xbox will release preview builds to a smaller audience before going to a wider group once it's stable. I guess we will see when they release their next update though.
It's a licensing issue, which is why you don't really see free (and legal) DVD players out there.
And I'm pretty sure Linux doesn't support DVD playback out of the box. It's easy enough to get around that, even without paying, but you can just as easily do it with windows.
Pagusas
Elden Member
How does Windows 10 handle dpi scaling? Windows 8/8.1 are horrible and look down right silly at anything but 100%, where as OS X has knocked it out of the park with resolution scaling from 72dpi all the way to the new 5k Mac with 200% scaling. My retina Macbook always looks beautiful at any scaling size (and nothing ever looks out of place, too big/too small), where as every high resolution screen I've seen running windows 8 looks horrifyingly bad.
I'm really hoping the method this time is well thought out and everything looks great if your on a standard screen or a 4k screen.
I'm really hoping the method this time is well thought out and everything looks great if your on a standard screen or a 4k screen.
I don't follow. I installed VLC and watched the DVD. It was free and I'm pretty sure legal.
The US's shitty software patent laws make libavcodec (that VLC uses) sort of not legal in the states.
I don't think anyone is going after VLC player any time soon (I sure hope they don't) but a big OS distributor can't get away with that without paying licensing fee.
In windows 7 MS got around that by having some SKUs with the capabilities and some without it, in windows 8, they're back to the old model of paying directly for this feature.
I don't have a strong opinion about whether that was the right call, I don't really play DVDs on my computer, I'm just explaining the issue with putting DVD playback in your software.
Dead Prince
Banned
There's a blog post up about it now.
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwi...windows-insider-program/#.VEamsKQt3-U.twitter
Some new things like the Action Center from Windows Phone and faster access to new builds to those that want them.
one thing i despise about windows update that it takes priority. like for me on my laptop my wifi just completely drops and my memory usage just goes up to 90%. So when something like that happens i go straight to windows update and i see it updating.
but anyways. will try the new build when i get home later.
lastflowers
Banned
Yes, similar to that.
Remember, this is a tech preview, and stuff may very well break or regress for a build and then get better. Many times a team has to rebuild/re architect something, which can cause less than stellar usage for a bit. Often times things like the animations are rough approximations that aren't nearly complete. Those who use windows phone's smooth animations.....they were terrible for a chunk of time before they were smooth. Since this is a tech preview, just remember everything isn't guaranteed to be smooth and awesome
SerTapTap
Member
Wonder if Prio (saves process priority you set in task manager) can fix that. I use that on my encoding programs so my PC doesn't lock up while I'm encoding multiple GB of video.
GIVE ME A PROGRESS BAR GODDAMMIT
Feels like the Xbox One day one edition all over again.
Progress bars are highly unreliable.
Yes, similar to that.
Remember, this is a tech preview, and stuff may very well break or regress for a build and then get better. Many times a team has to rebuild/re architect something, which can cause less than stellar usage for a bit. Often times things like the animations are rough approximations that aren't nearly complete. Those who use windows phone's smooth animations.....they were terrible for a chunk of time before they were smooth. Since this is a tech preview, just remember everything isn't guaranteed to be smooth and awesome
The most important part is to give feedback. Someone is reviewing all of the complaints.
Windows Update always works at the lowest priority if you just let it be and let it do its thing. If you manually trigger it to do something in the foreground, then yes it works in the foreground and will take priority over other things.
For this first preview build, I let my home PC just sit there on the internet and didn't touch it. The new build was automatically downloaded and installed overnight, and was ready to go in the morning.
For this first preview build, I let my home PC just sit there on the internet and didn't touch it. The new build was automatically downloaded and installed overnight, and was ready to go in the morning.
I know, remaining time would be good too. I just want to know if I can go to bed in the near future.
Yeah, this is something MS should look into. The search indexer used to be like that when it was first created and now it mostly does its job without disruption system operation.
Not quite. It might have low CPU priority, but it will still use 100% of the disk time when it's installing, causing noticeable performance impact on systems with mechanical drives, specially on machines with 4GBs of RAM or less (which use the swap file more frequently).
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Deleted member 17706
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Definitely looking forward to getting my hands on this as it nears completion. It looks like an awesome OS and even takes some of the thing I really like about OSX while keeping and improving on some of the great things about Windows.
Windows Update only installs updates at the scheduled maintenance time (which defaults to 2AM) or when significant system idle time is detected (the PC isn't being used for awhile). Low priority means low priority - CPU, disk, network, and every other resource it requires.
Unless you trigger updating manually.
If you see otherwise, submit feedback via the feedback app.
Iced_Eagle
Member
It's actually a bit of a grey area in terms of legality within the US.
VLC is first and foremost a French organization. This means they only need to abide by French laws. In France, VLC is 100% legal and thus there is no issue for them.
However, the concerns generally center around "libdvdcss" codec, which is the codec which allows them to play DVD's. I'm not a lawyer, but I believe the issue is that there are no royalties being paid to the patent owners of the video codec, and that VLC conflicts in some ways with the US law of DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act).
VLC has a section about it on their site, but they very clearly say they don't follow US law and only abide by French law: http://www.videolan.org/legal.html
SerTapTap
Member
I did this and the 10 preview was kinda fucked up (search picks up programs from the other partition, which of course won't work due to lol registry) but it didn't mess up my win 8 install at all. If you hide the other windows install from win 10 somehow it might work better, or for all I know they fixed that--I haven't used it in a while
Good to know! I don't mind if the 10 preview is sketchy, but I'd like to have my 8 partition intact from all that buzz. Don't have spare HDD's right now so partition is my only choice.
Thanks!
Syphon Filter
Member
Actually i prefer it this way,that ui makes no sense on a desktop.
Dead Prince
Banned
i got home and it just gave me an install now button. when i click i just see the spinning icon.
how long does it take?
how long does it take?
Jzero
Member
It takes quite a while to install, even on an SSD.
Syphon Filter
Member
You mean the recent build or another new build?
Dead Prince
Banned
The one they just pushed out today or whenever. But I'm done installing now
Progress!
Reference: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=132768863&postcount=1185
Still a long ways from even reproducing all options the abominable Start Screen has in W8, let alone those of the Start Menu in W7. Maybe by next build they will bring back "properties" in the context menu. One step at a time.
Build 9860 seems more unstable, and I mean solely Modern apps. Windows Feedback crashes 9 out of 10 times I open it.
Reference: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=132768863&postcount=1185
Still a long ways from even reproducing all options the abominable Start Screen has in W8, let alone those of the Start Menu in W7. Maybe by next build they will bring back "properties" in the context menu. One step at a time.
Build 9860 seems more unstable, and I mean solely Modern apps. Windows Feedback crashes 9 out of 10 times I open it.
"Let me choose blablabla"
This is from 8.1, but there should be a similar option in 10.
Syphon Filter
Member
Anyone that used previews in the past window os's know how long it usually takes for it to get to beta?
Why would you do that?
Member
LAME, the mp3 codec, doesn't distribute binaries for exactly this reason. The source code is really just a "description" of an mp3 codec, and apparently it isn't subject to Fraunhofer's mp3 patents that way.
In order for you to get LAME, you need to compile it yourself or download it from someone else who compiled it. But if you distribute it, you should have a patent license, I guess depending on your country's patent laws.
It's the first time Microsoft releases Windows that will be systematically updated (instead of releasing a certain build once in few months), so it's hard to tell.
However, with Windows 8 it was like that:
- Developer Preview: 24th Sepember 2011
- Consumer Preview: 29th February 2012
- Release Preview: 1st June 2012
Release Preview was practically RC. I haven't noticed too many changes between it and the final release. Consumer Preview was stable and had most of important features already implemented (some of them were refined in later releases, though), but not everything worked as in final version.
Syphon Filter
Member
For compatibility stuff, is that in the consumer preview or release preview? Or you need to wait for the official release?