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Microsoft Announces Windows 10
- Thread starter PGamer
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I'm not a betting man, even when I'm sure of myself.
But I still say they're gonna leave the icons like that.
MmmSkyscraper
Unconfirmed Member
Reverted back to 8.1, my install was getting increasingly broken. Things got a little better after rolling back the recommended AMD drivers but still way too many crashes for apps I use regularly. iTunes stopped loading with no error messages, VLC crashed after every file I played, BSOD when quitting some games or watching video in a browser. DOSBox also didn't work so I couldn't play Magic Carpet, fuck that noise. I'll check in again when things calm down a bit.
Simon Belmont
Banned
I'd love to go back to Win 8.1 but every time I try I get stuck in an infinite update cycle.
MmmSkyscraper
Unconfirmed Member
I didn't roll back, but formatted and installed from scratch. 2 sets of updates then all was good. I used this to create a bootable 8.1 USB stick:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media
I can't tell if you're defending the new aesthetic or not.
Either way, can't reward Microsoft forever for not having any taste. Not like I necessarily WANT a mac, but defending the latest updates is something I can't do.
Simon Belmont
Banned
Maybe I'll give that a shot. Here's a question: I have Windows 7, then an upgrade to 8, then an upgrade to 8.1 (because my key is for 8). Is there any way I can go right to 8.1, or do I have to follow that upgrade path every time?
I really wish 7's graphical style would come back. Personally I dislike the large flat squares and solid clashy colors that have become popular in recent years.
CreepingFear
Member
No official date announced. Good bet that they'll try to release it in time for the new computers for back to school, possibly even Skylake this fall.
Chance Hale
Member
Is there no way to steam to an xbox one from within an app? In windows 8 you choose devices, play, and then the system but the charms bar is gone now and there are no replacement in-app controls.
Steelyuhas
Member
Windows 8.x apps in Win 10 at this point have the hamburger menu on the title bar that houses what used to be contained in the charms. 'Devices' seems to be missing in apps that have it on 8.x in the given context though. Considering MSFT's new Win 10 Universal apps don't have the hamburger menu for the charms on the title bar, I assume they have some other implementation for stuff like streaming to other devices that they haven't shown yet.
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Hopefully we get a new build this week, it's been a while.
HarryDemeanor
Member
Just let me touch Project Spartan for a minute, Joe. I'll do anything.
LukasTaves
Member
The leaked images from the 1031 build show an option to toggle opened apps in other desktops appearing in the taskbar in all of them or only where the apps are opened 
MmmSkyscraper
Unconfirmed Member
The tool I linked accepts keys for Windows 8 when you're installing Windows 8.1, so you can skip the 8 install and go straight to 8.1
Just to be Captain Obvious, you'll need to backup any documents/stuff you want to keep on the partition you're wiping, and reinstall any apps/games etc. I purposely keep very little on the boot partition so it's not a major problem.
Simon Belmont
Banned
Awesome! Thanks! Yeah, I boot from an SSD and keep that pretty much clean. Anything important goes on the wife's iMac. I get to have a Windows PC to tinker lol
Be strong Wreav, go buy a SP3 and you'll be fine.
I just got a free Dell Venue Pro 11. Windows 8 is such garbage for touch IMO, hoping 10 improves it.
AzureSkies
Member
holy shit, those new icons are bad
and i'm a fan of what we have on 9926.
and i'm a fan of what we have on 9926.
CyclopsRock
Member
I'm really enjoying it. I haven't had a bit of hardware or software not work yet, and it takes the good bits of Windows 8 and gets rid of (some) of the crappier bits.
CadetMahoney
Member
Hopefully Win 7 is gonna be retired like XP soon.
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Deleted member 325805
Unconfirmed Member
Everything just looks so clean and modern, I can't wait to upgrade.
Again, have you used a Surface Pro? They define touch for Windows 8. Everything else as you said, feels like garbage.
in my experience Windows 8 is fantastic for touch devices....not so much non-touch devices.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Probably, yeah. They've been saying that the end goal is to get Win 10 to be even slimmer than Win 8, so presumably they'd require less power as well.
I wouldn't expect any dramatic changes, though.
Windows 10: New Task View Experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urLWjMLhLFc
Windows 10: New OOBE Experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5kQC3K1u0Q
Looking good. I'm glad drag and drop is finally being implemented in Task view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urLWjMLhLFc
Windows 10: New OOBE Experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5kQC3K1u0Q
Looking good. I'm glad drag and drop is finally being implemented in Task view.
HarryDemeanor
Member
Looks like they're going to release builds quicker on the Fast ring. No idea when though.
true that
people should go download and install unstable Linux builds for an idea why internal builds at many companies aren't pushed to the public. that's the closest you can get to an 'internal' build you can publically use.
HarryDemeanor
Member
Well it looks like Gabe is just saying "Fuck it, you cried for faster builds now deal with all the shit that comes with it."
expected this, but nice to have more confirmation.
should make cortana useful for me on Windows 10 since i don't have a WP anymore. I want a Microsoft Android Launcher with Cortana etc.. though.Exclusive: Microsoft's digital assistant to head to Android said:
lastflowers
Banned
Try using it on your dev box since like august. Those first couple of months....Ouch. Although, I can't even contemplate the multitudes of possible issues with running w10 on a SP3.
Agreed about that much better now.
Steelyuhas
Member
I remember you saying that everyone said you were nuts for doing that hah
crazy monkey
Banned
I hate windows for making things hard to find. control folder everything. I hope it just becomes simple as it was in windows 7.
lastflowers
Banned
it was a poor decision.
brotkasten
Member
The Internet does what Microsoft won't.
An untouched ISO of Windows 10 Build 10036 has leaked.
Super buggy, but whatever. People want new bits and here they are.
e: Or as Tom Warren sums it up: "New Windows 10 preview leaks as Microsoft struggles to deliver official version"
An untouched ISO of Windows 10 Build 10036 has leaked.
Super buggy, but whatever. People want new bits and here they are.
e: Or as Tom Warren sums it up: "New Windows 10 preview leaks as Microsoft struggles to deliver official version"
I think Microsoft can be partly blame for that - they promised frequent updates, they even added the "fast" circle and then... the last official release was few weeks ago. In the meantime all we got are leaks from unofficial sources. People are simply impatient and want to try new features.
I wouldn't mind a "careful, new but probably extremely buggy" update circle - something that people would be advised to try ONLY on virtual machines and NOT install it as a regular system (because it can format all your HDDs and eat your processor).
I wouldn't mind a "careful, new but probably extremely buggy" update circle - something that people would be advised to try ONLY on virtual machines and NOT install it as a regular system (because it can format all your HDDs and eat your processor).
How are they gonna hit that June RTM date that was rumored right now? Maybe if this build is like 3 months old or something. Even if that's false it must not be much farther if they are launching in their usual late Sep/Early Oct window. I just feel previous releases had much better public testing.
Anyway, I'm not expecting the RTM release to be as 'polished' compared with past releases. This is just a much bigger windows than 7 or 8. Good luck. Not that those didn't have issues.
Anyway, I'm not expecting the RTM release to be as 'polished' compared with past releases. This is just a much bigger windows than 7 or 8. Good luck. Not that those didn't have issues.
brotkasten
Member
The first two previews have been made available in October last year, which was promising. The third came mid-November, only 3 weeks later. Again. Awesome. Then Nothing until the end of January. Understandable, because of he Holidays and all that. After that, the Windows 10 consumer event came up at the end of January, promising a quicker roll out of builds again. And nothing since then.
"However, not everything you saw on Wednesday is included in this new build. Much is still in-progress and we’re getting it out to you as fast as we can – so you can try it out and give us feedback. Over the course of the next few builds, you will see us refine Windows 10 and continue to improve the experiences as well as quality and stability."
"The gap between 9879 and 9926 is the longest you should expect to see with the program, because of the holidays and the need to add and stabilize feature payloads. We’ll get new builds out faster moving forward – thank you for being patient with us."
"booo hooo, why is everyone mad at us?!" and "you don't want the thing we said you'd get even quicker" isn't a great reaction (not to mention that "you don't want that" is super arrogant). Not that I'm expecting you to step in in any way, it must be super annoying, but sometimes it's better to bite the tongue, when people, who have no idea what they're talking about, want to vent.
I get that Joe and Gabe want people to get excited, but when you get peoples hopes up and raise their expectation, only not to meet them, then some backlash is expected.
It looks like 10036 was compiled Friday last week.
PSYGN
Member
Minimalist/flat sits on a very fine line between crap and good, unfortunately it seems Microsoft has their feet on both sides. They just can't seem to nail the flat/minimalist design on desktops, but they are getting closer and a final layer of polishing could tie it all together.
I think a big problem with Metro's aesthetic is the icons are very inconsistent and ugly as fuck half of the time. Sometimes for the sake of being different it just ends up being inconsistent you get some shit like this:
There are a million custom minimalist iOS themes that are have more consistency in their icons than Metro. Inconsistency also makes it look busier and messier when you port it to platforms like mobile and X1.
There are a million custom minimalist iOS themes that are have more consistency in their icons than Metro. Inconsistency also makes it look busier and messier when you port it to platforms like mobile and X1.
I think a big problem with Metro's aesthetic is the icons are very inconsistent and ugly as fuck half of the time. Sometimes for the sake of being different it just ends up being inconsistent you get some shit like this:
There are a million custom minimalist iOS themes that are have more consistency in their icons than Metro. Inconsistency also makes it look busier and messier when you port it to platforms like mobile and X1.
Those look pretty awesome and apart from the perspective on the market place icon they look pretty consistent to me.