I thought those universal app platform could run/emulate ios, Android and two other types of apps (think it was java and c++)?
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I thought those universal app platform could run/emulate ios, Android and two other types of apps (think it was java and c++)?
brotkasten
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It can emulate Android apps, but iOS apps still have to be ported. It's supposed to be be much easier now, though (basically a recompile, iirc).
And the want to do it...
I wonder how significant a GPU increase can be compared to what has been around last year. For gaming and stuff. (Does this tech advance quickly on tablets?)
Basically wondering if there's clear benefits going with the strongest version (specs) they are going to offer.
Pretty excited. Time to start putting some money aside. I guess the 14" could get quite expensive.
Basically wondering if there's clear benefits going with the strongest version (specs) they are going to offer.
Pretty excited. Time to start putting some money aside. I guess the 14" could get quite expensive.
potentially a big jump, with the 15W chips getting iris GPUs with 64MB edram in some configurations. However one article I read said that the iris chips might not come until early 2016, so if they are launching this year they would be with lower powered GPUs
arstechnica had an article a couple of weeks ago which is where I got the slide on the previous page
i3 - HD520 GPU
i5/i7 - HD520 or Intel Iris 540
Intel HD520: 24EUs,
Intel Iris 540: 48EUs, 64MB edram,
the intel slides have TBD on the pricing for the chips with Iris 540 so that might also point to them not being available yet. In that case, if the SP4 launches soon, it may only have Intel HD520 GPUs.
for comparison, the current surface pro 3 i5.i7 have HD4400 GPUs with 20EUs and the i3 has a HD4200 (also 20EUs but only boosts to 850MHz)
Alx
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The motivation must have been low to port applications on windows phone, but if an easy rebuild allows devs to target all windows 10 phones, tablets, PC and consoles, I guess more will be interested. I expect many "quick and dirty" ports actually, but that's (much) better than nothing.
brotkasten
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I really hope we got reviews for both devices before one or the other ships.
I think the only apps they take seriously are Office on iOS. I want to see a behind the scenes at Microsoft on app development to see if it's just crickets in those buildings. Microsoft need to deliver in spades and no second best, time is up. Deliver or give up. If they start saying wait for Windows 10.1 or whatever codename, christ almighty. This time everyone, we've got this /o\
I had to wait too long. Ordered a iPhone 6s plus 64gb to replace my Lumia 920. I totally forgot about the devices announcements on October 6th but I'm fine with being guaranteed to have a prime selection of apps for any gadget or toy or service that has one.
I'll still be watching and hope the 950s phones impress.
I'll still be watching and hope the 950s phones impress.
I don't blame you. October will be the two year anniversary of the 1520's announcement. I'm about to get an iPhone and bounce as well but I can't upgrade till mid October. Hopefully the 950 impresses.
I thought only less tech-savvy people wont know but how is it a debate for people who know what the spec and what both devices are capable.
Let me put it simply for you,
if you want APPS get iPad (while way overpriced, still you will get the best apps, and newer apps faster. Windows store situation is not going to get better in a month)
If you want device that will do everything else. Get Surface Pro. This is not even questionable. 1.5 year Pro 3 with same price blows new iPad out of water. They even showed 4k video editing on go. It cant get more complex than that for average consumer.
Pro 4 is going to be sweet. I wish people wouldnt compare dumb down ARM device like iPad pro with this this.
FunkyDealer
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I wouldn't mind buying a Lumia, but it needs to be under 5", certainly no more.
I don't think we'll get a high end Lumia under 5".
http://www.windowscentral.com/what-expect-microsofts-windows-10-devices-event-nyc
The only Lumias under 5" are the budget ones and that isn't going to change. It's more likely the new budget line get bigger screens than the higher end models getting smaller screens.
HEHE.
I just bought a Surface Pro 3 as a secondary computer for digital illustration. Hands down, no doubt about it the Apple Pencil looks much better than the SP3 stylus. Sorry but it's truth. Sometimes I do slower lines when drawing and the SP3 is just bad at this (wavy lines).
I hope MS gets it right with the SP4. If not I may sell my SP3 as that's all I want a digital tablet for... illustration. I can deal with using apps over Photoshop if I have to as I'm not a professional.
Caayn
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A high end phone pretty much means a phone 5"+ sadly.
Looks great. Can't wait to learn more about it and, if all is good, get one this fall.
I wonder if it would be safe to have a Surface Pro 4 imported. Obviously issues can always show up with any device but I don't know how frequent they are with these.
I'm also going to have to look up some info as to if the warranty is covered here because I had some results saying they would be, even though I assumed that would not be the case.
Either way I can see myself using it a lot for streaming X1 and lesser demanding games. Much more so than I ever did with my iPad. Stream in-house streaming too, hopefully. It will be awesome.
I'm also going to have to look up some info as to if the warranty is covered here because I had some results saying they would be, even though I assumed that would not be the case.
Either way I can see myself using it a lot for streaming X1 and lesser demanding games. Much more so than I ever did with my iPad. Stream in-house streaming too, hopefully. It will be awesome.
Do MS have a global warranty? That would make me tempted to pick one up in Japan at Christmas
I don't know about that but when looking for information about that, I saw a post about someone in Germany saying his warranty from a US device would be covered. So I'm in the Netherlands and that's close enough.
I'll definitely look into it a little more. I can save a lot of money if relatives bring one home from the US. I could get better specs that way, I'll just go for a stronger device.
dragonelite
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So nothing about that x64 surface phone rumors?
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dragonelite
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I like the continuum concept would be awesome if it could replace my laptop for some tasks with the continuum hub.
Maybe even some light web development.
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I think this would be perfect too.so there *are* two chassis?
didn't hear rumours of a 14". That sounds much more 'touchscreen laptop' than 'laptop tablet hybrid'
would make a nice family lineup though
Surface - 10" atom based
Surface pro 12" - core M, fanless
Surface pro 14" - Core i, with fan, for power users
especially good if the likely pricing of the 14" means the 12" gets a price drop.
mmazurkiewicz
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I'd like for the Surface family to include a nice 15" laptop sometime in the next two years. Something to compete with the retina macbook pro.
Hope it happens.
Hope it happens.
As longs as the device is supported by Microsoft in your nation you should be covered. But take note that the Surface will then follow the American warranty law.
That is rumored for a spring 2016 release. It would be way too early for announcement now.
dragonelite
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Also waiting for something like that, for now im waiting for the dell xps 15 with infinity display.
Something as a baseline for other laptop manufactors kinda like the surface pro for tablets.
K, still a long wait then
brotkasten
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Windows 10 Mobile has no desktop support anyway. Continuum doesn't even support windowed apps yet. An x64 CPU wouldn't change that.
Pretty stoked to know more about it.
Design-wise it's not amazing, but I hope it's a worthy successor. And it looks like this time it will be available in all the countries in which the Surface is available.
juliushandle
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Iris scanning unlock demoed on both the SP4 with Threshold 1 and the Lumia Flagships.
I'm really hoping the Band 2 has internal memory for its own music. Working out/jogging without a phone but just your Band 2 and a Bluetooth headset would be great. If you really think about it, a watch is a far better music player than a phone. Cortana music commands or on screen touch on a watch seems easier than taking your phone out of your pocket. Store music on the Band for phone-free workouts and you have a winner.
I'm really hoping the Band 2 has internal memory for its own music. Working out/jogging without a phone but just your Band 2 and a Bluetooth headset would be great. If you really think about it, a watch is a far better music player than a phone. Cortana music commands or on screen touch on a watch seems easier than taking your phone out of your pocket. Store music on the Band for phone-free workouts and you have a winner.
My screen is still in great condition, but the rest of the band is falling apart after just 6 months of use (plastic on the battery covers is gone, rubber around the clip area falling off, screws coming loose every now and then).
Yeah but aside from words i need to see the actual stuff on the app store
massivekettle
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Looks nice but way, way too bulky compared to Fitbit's and even the Apple Watch.
brotkasten
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The Samsung Gear Fit looks still better than the Band 2, which is really disappointing.
Hopefully they'll get it right next year.
Hopefully they'll get it right next year.
No way. I don't want a 12" Surface to be limited to Core M. I love the 12" of my Surface Pro 3, 14" would be way too big for me, and I just want a non-M Skylake CPU in it. Skylake Core M would be slower than the Core i5 in my current SP3 I think.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Is the Band 1 more resilient than a fitbit? I've been through like 3 in 12 months because they keep having various issues like the rubber bits starting to detach, or the clasps breaking etc.
Shpeshal Nick
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Cant wait for the Surface Pro 4. Its Microsoft's sale to lose from me.
The toss up now is whether I stick with the Lumias, or go back to iOS. if Windows Mobile 10 isn't great and those leaked phones are all we're getting, I think ill just grab a 6S Plus.
The toss up now is whether I stick with the Lumias, or go back to iOS. if Windows Mobile 10 isn't great and those leaked phones are all we're getting, I think ill just grab a 6S Plus.
Maninthemirror
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My dad just bought a surface pro 3 a week ago from Best Buy. How Long do I have to return or replace it ?
Steelyuhas
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Yeah agreed. I'll be looking at purchasing the 12" SP4, but if it's a Core M I'd be pretty hesitant.
EnVy_CaLiBeR
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Two weeks is their policy I believe?
October 6th is so far away. I need the SP4 as my personal birthday gift. lol
The only issue I've had with mine is the face getting scratched. I'm very active, P90X1, 2 and 3, bike riding and it's survived so far. I've only owned it 4 months, though.
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