Microsoft is funding “Take Us North” a game about illegal immigration to the US

He built a massive audience organically because he cared enough to cover hot button topics and happened to align with gamers that were shunned by established gaming personalities. Jeff Grubb, Kyle Bosman, Jim Sterling, Jeff Gerstmann, etc etc etc either ignored everything or chose the safe path. That's why most of them faded into obscurity. If what Asmon does was so easy, the low effort rage baiters like Endymion and Yellow Flash would be just as relevant. But they aren't because they don't come across as genuine or have interesting takes. Asmon is a force to be reckoned with and he earned that.

He's done nothing to "cancel" this game by the way. Not sure why people keep saying that. He's just bringing attention to it which is a good thing. People like being informed.
Not just a massive audience, massive audiences on Twitch, X, and Youtube. And because his content is very diversified, his audience in turn is also diversified hence why he has more what I call "normie reach" than other content creators.
 
He built a massive audience organically because he cared enough to cover hot button topics and happened to align with gamers that were shunned by established gaming personalities. Jeff Grubb, Kyle Bosman, Jim Sterling, Jeff Gerstmann, etc etc etc either ignored everything or chose the safe path. That's why most of them faded into obscurity. If what Asmon does was so easy, the low effort rage baiters like Endymion and Yellow Flash would be just as relevant. But they aren't because they don't come across as genuine or have interesting takes. Asmon is a force to be reckoned with and he earned that.

He's done nothing to "cancel" this game by the way. Not sure why people keep saying that. He's just bringing attention to it which is a good thing. People like being informed.
He built an audience by following the same right wing grift blueprint we've seen like a thousand times. "Epic streamer DESTROYS pathetic libtard" He got lucky because the pendulum is currently on the right side and kids are buying into it because it requires a hell of a lot less empathy and education. He lives in literal filth and had never approached or been approached by a woman prior to becoming rich and garnering a huge audience. He lives a completely apolitical life, in the sense that he sits at home all day every day with little to no human interaction. The idea that topics like trans rights or even general politics matter to him, or that his words carry any weight is laughable. His ideas of what average woman even look like is more so. His home is roach infested. You bet your ass on an average day he reeks. He is the definition of a disgusting. If you watch his content and come away thinking any of his thoughts or feelings have any depth, and aren't just parroted from what he sees his chat or comments saying it says much about you.
 
When did I say people questioning something's existence is censorship? I already said I have no dispute with you as you have made it clear censorship is not what you want. But you are making the mistake of speaking for others. There are literally people posting images of illegal immigrants being chased with guns as a joke, or wanting to play as ICE agents instead who can hunt all of them down. Or calling a game about illegal immigration disgusting while gleefully murdering random pedestrians in scores of other games.

Do those posters even know what it is like to actually be an ICE agent and what their own trauma of chasing farmers through fields day in and day out, instead of violent criminals feels like? Not everyone is enjoying that job at the moment and I'm sure many are in need of therapy. None of this shit is black and white if you start peeling the layers.

All your points are valid as long as you don't pepper your posts with "Nobody said this" and "Nobody said that". There are lots of people saying all kinds of things. If you don't think so and everyone is rational and has already thought about it like you did, then we can agree to disagree.

Thanks for explaining. I understand your point better now and I agree.
 
He built an audience by following the same right wing grift blueprint we've seen like a thousand times. "Epic streamer DESTROYS pathetic libtard" He got lucky because the pendulum is currently on the right side and kids are buying into it because it requires a hell of a lot less empathy and education. He lives in literal filth and had never approached or been approached by a woman prior to becoming rich and garnering a huge audience. He lives a completely apolitical life, in the sense that he sits at home all day every day with little to no human interaction. The idea that topics like trans rights or even general politics matter to him, or that his words carry any weight is laughable. His ideas of what average woman even look like is more so. His home is roach infested. You bet your ass on an average day he reeks. He is the definition of a disgusting. If you watch his content and come away thinking any of his thoughts or feelings have any depth, and aren't just parroted from what he sees his chat or comments saying it says much about you.

Why do you care if he has roaches in his home or that he "reeks" ?

See, it's always people like you that are supposed to be tolerant® that are the biggest insecure, evil-hearted, petty bigots that have to always go with the ad hominem attacks, ALWAYS.

You're not tolerant, you're not better than everybody else, you're just projecting and virtue signaling and frankly, that's so 2020, we've come a long way since then my guy, them internet cookie points have finished.

Also, that projection in the end man...just like my friend Miku said earlier, go grab a mirror...😁

The level of lack of self awareness with some of you is fucking unbelievable...
 
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Well that's enough discussion for me, to the people who supported it I hope you actually buy the game and not just virtue signaling.

hearing the devs calling thenselves they're activist and how they're so proud to have 60% POC and female member is all I need to hear for not buying this game. I think overfocusing on race and gender like this is pretty racist, is the remaining 40% the lesser race or something?

good luck to everyone else
 
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Why do you care if he has roaches in his home or that he "reeks" ?

See, it's always people like you that are supposed to be tolerant® that are the biggest insecure, evil-hearted, petty bigots that have to always go with the ad hominem attacks, ALWAYS.

You're not tolerant, you're not better than everybody else, you're just projecting and virtue signaling and frankly, that's so 2020, we've come a long way since then my guy, them internet cookie points have finished.

Also, that projection in the end man...just like my friend Miku said earlier, go grab a mirror...😁

The level of lack of self awareness with some of you is fucking unbelievable...
>Why do you care if he has roaches in his home or that he "reeks" ?

Because losers are using a man whose single talent was being very good at WoW a decade ago that willingly lives and breathes filth as some odd beacon of morality and culture war.

>See, it's always people like you that are supposed to be tolerant® that are the biggest insecure, evil-hearted, petty bigots that have to always go with the ad hominem attacks, ALWAYS.

Nope. Don't pretend to be super tolerant or anything of the sort. And anyway, being tolerant of those whose lives don't effect me in any way shape or form vs being tolerant of a trash man spewing nasty rhetoric about others on a consistent basis despite having 0 social skills, 0 hygiene, and 0 ability to live like a somewhat normal human being in the year 2025 are two different things. I can love my neighbor on the left side of my house whose name I don't know, and hate the guy on the right who lets his dog bark 24/7. 2 different things.

>You're not tolerant, you're not better than everybody else, you're just projecting and virtue signaling and frankly, that's so 2020, we've come a long way since then my guy, them internet cookie points have finished.

Mm nope. I am better than asmongold in almost every objective way. My house stays clean, I bathe regularly, I muster up the energy to throw trash away rather than let it rot, I don't react with negative vitriol and deep emotion at video game trailers for games made by probably like 2 people, I married a human woman and am working on kid #2 atm, and I did all that without being a multi millionaire from one of the comfiest jobs imaginable.

>Also, that projection in the end man...just like my friend Miku said earlier, go grab a mirror...😁

Mmm normal guy I'm looking at with a fairly productive life, a job that requires a hell of a lot more physical energy yet I don't use a dead animal as an alarm clock by choice.

>The level of lack of self awareness with some of you is fucking unbelievable...

Sure it is. Or maybe asmongold is just a pretty trashy person and if you find yourself consistently agreeing with him, it says quite a bit even if you don't see that yet.
 
>Why do you care if he has roaches in his home or that he "reeks" ?

Because losers are using a man whose single talent was being very good at WoW a decade ago that willingly lives and breathes filth as some odd beacon of morality and culture war.

>See, it's always people like you that are supposed to be tolerant® that are the biggest insecure, evil-hearted, petty bigots that have to always go with the ad hominem attacks, ALWAYS.

Nope. Don't pretend to be super tolerant or anything of the sort. And anyway, being tolerant of those whose lives don't effect me in any way shape or form vs being tolerant of a trash man spewing nasty rhetoric about others on a consistent basis despite having 0 social skills, 0 hygiene, and 0 ability to live like a somewhat normal human being in the year 2025 are two different things. I can love my neighbor on the left side of my house whose name I don't know, and hate the guy on the right who lets his dog bark 24/7. 2 different things.

>You're not tolerant, you're not better than everybody else, you're just projecting and virtue signaling and frankly, that's so 2020, we've come a long way since then my guy, them internet cookie points have finished.

Mm nope. I am better than asmongold in almost every objective way. My house stays clean, I bathe regularly, I muster up the energy to throw trash away rather than let it rot, I don't react with negative vitriol and deep emotion at video game trailers for games made by probably like 2 people, I married a human woman and am working on kid #2 atm, and I did all that without being a multi millionaire from one of the comfiest jobs imaginable.

>Also, that projection in the end man...just like my friend Miku said earlier, go grab a mirror...😁

Mmm normal guy I'm looking at with a fairly productive life, a job that requires a hell of a lot more physical energy yet I don't use a dead animal as an alarm clock by choice.

>The level of lack of self awareness with some of you is fucking unbelievable...

Sure it is. Or maybe asmongold is just a pretty trashy person and if you find yourself consistently agreeing with him, it says quite a bit even if you don't see that yet.

Look at that self-patting, amazing...

Whatever makes you sleep better at night man.
 
See, it's always people like you that are supposed to be tolerant® that are the biggest insecure, evil-hearted, petty bigots that have to always go with the ad hominem attacks, ALWAYS.
Exactly. People like this always complain that you should not call people ugly, fat etc. Yet they are the first one to attack somebody over looks, body and so on.

"Epic streamer DESTROYS pathetic libtard"
Except he does not do any of that. He looks at people trying to promote ugly chicks and asks a reasonable question - "why would you want to look at this fat whale in game when you can do the same outside?" or "would you rather wake with a attractive woman or some ugly monstrocity with a colored hair". It is just a common sense that a certain side has been trying to suppress since 2020 (even before) trying to tell people that ugly, committing crimes etc. is "good and fine" and normalcy is bad. He does not try to own anybody - it just happens that his stance on issue X or Y ends up being a common sense.

Because losers are using a man whose single talent was being very good at WoW a decade ago that willingly lives and breathes filth as some odd beacon of morality and culture war.
According to you he is "willingly lives and breathes filth " and has "a single talent". All while he has more money and influence than you. Where does exactly it put you then?
 
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I find Asmon's take to be pretty much grounded in a normal reality for most people considering he's a filthy bastard living in squalor, we know he can't be bought so he's not promoting a single side as he has absolutely fuck all interest in money or the trappings of it so is genuinely speaking from the heart without a single fuck given.. and lets be real here, a lot of his takes are bang on the money, some are also way off the mark and he can be easily caught up in the usual vids doing the rounds from the proper right wing channels but generally hes spot on and like most people calls bullshit out... personally i find the little interjections from his English sounding editor to be hilarious
 
No. However it is evident, not just a simple belief, that games that deal in violence (recently, even sexual violence) have their right to exist and be sold defended around these parts instead of being criticized for their contents without even being released. It is also evident most people who play aforementioned games engage in those illegal activities while building rapport and empathy for their protagonists regardless of them being criminals or not; or, at the very least, you play them to enjoy whatever activity is on display, legal or not.

Both of those things lead me to believe most people clutching at their pearls ITT are more concerned with this piece of interactive media serving its purpose of having other people empathize with America's chosen enemy of the times.
The point I was getting at was I don't believe we can conflate the depiction of illegal activities within a game, with a game existing specifically to defend or perpetuate the illegal activity in real life. Nor do I think it is reasonable to take a position that if someone defends the former it is hypocritical if they don't also defend the latter.

I don't think many -at least in gaming circles- seriously think GTA depicts the illegal activities it does with a motivation of defending and perpetuating those activities in real life (I expect the levels of concern would be very high even among gamers if people did believe that to be the case). On the other hand, if someone told me this game was covering this subject primarily for entertainment or narrative purposes -and not out of a desire to defend and perpetuate the illegal activity in real life- I would not believe them. It seems very obvious that the irl political messaging is the reason for the game existing. I think if there was any doubt about that before seeing the presentation, it cannot survive after seeing the presentation.

I believe the 'concern' for those who consider mass illegal immigration to be deeply detrimental to their society is that efforts like this can be successful in their attempts to sugar coat and thus contribute to perpetuating it, and so they would prefer that it not happen. That desire is not necessarily unlimited however.

I agree that games which 'only' depict illegal activities and games which are (broadly) advocating for a given illegal activity both have 'a right to exist', but I do not consider them equivalent. That they both may depict illegal activities does not make them equivalent.
 
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Look at that self-patting, amazing...

Whatever makes you sleep better at night man.
🥱There are billions of better people than me on this planet: I suck in a ton of ways. Rich folks with more self control and motivation than I could dream of. Asmongold isn't one of those people. He's a loser to his core most being. Still, live and let live and if he kept to own I wouldn't say a word about him. But he sits in his filth and dogs on others publicly. "Disgusting man surrounded by dead animals and roaches absolutely OWNS triggered blue haired liberal on subject of video game tits"
 
🥱There are billions of better people than me on this planet: I suck in a ton of ways. Rich folks with more self control and motivation than I could dream of. Asmongold isn't one of those people. He's a loser to his core most being. Still, live and let live and if he kept to own I wouldn't say a word about him. But he sits in his filth and dogs on others publicly. "Disgusting man surrounded by dead animals and roaches absolutely OWNS triggered blue haired liberal on subject of video game tits"
So... you're just upset that he has normie reach while you do not.
 
>Why do you care if he has roaches in his home or that he "reeks" ?

Because losers are using a man whose single talent was being very good at WoW a decade ago that willingly lives and breathes filth as some odd beacon of morality and culture war.

>See, it's always people like you that are supposed to be tolerant® that are the biggest insecure, evil-hearted, petty bigots that have to always go with the ad hominem attacks, ALWAYS.

Nope. Don't pretend to be super tolerant or anything of the sort. And anyway, being tolerant of those whose lives don't effect me in any way shape or form vs being tolerant of a trash man spewing nasty rhetoric about others on a consistent basis despite having 0 social skills, 0 hygiene, and 0 ability to live like a somewhat normal human being in the year 2025 are two different things. I can love my neighbor on the left side of my house whose name I don't know, and hate the guy on the right who lets his dog bark 24/7. 2 different things.

>You're not tolerant, you're not better than everybody else, you're just projecting and virtue signaling and frankly, that's so 2020, we've come a long way since then my guy, them internet cookie points have finished.

Mm nope. I am better than asmongold in almost every objective way. My house stays clean, I bathe regularly, I muster up the energy to throw trash away rather than let it rot, I don't react with negative vitriol and deep emotion at video game trailers for games made by probably like 2 people, I married a human woman and am working on kid #2 atm, and I did all that without being a multi millionaire from one of the comfiest jobs imaginable.

>Also, that projection in the end man...just like my friend Miku said earlier, go grab a mirror...😁

Mmm normal guy I'm looking at with a fairly productive life, a job that requires a hell of a lot more physical energy yet I don't use a dead animal as an alarm clock by choice.

>The level of lack of self awareness with some of you is fucking unbelievable...

Sure it is. Or maybe asmongold is just a pretty trashy person and if you find yourself consistently agreeing with him, it says quite a bit even if you don't see that yet.

Damn, roach king and his defense force eviscerated 😆
 
Have you ever crossed US/Can borders?

You need a passport or other valid ID to get through customs. And they track your license plate when you drive over. My buddies and I cant even just spend a night spending money in Buffalo or Detroit watching a Sabres or Tigers game without showing ID at the border.

Nobody just waltzes in. People follow the process.
Correct. I've been to Canada countless times as a teenager, and even now. It's pretty easy to cross the border with the right documentation. I even know people who live in Canada and work in the US. The border is their daily commute and they've never had an issue.
 
It's not about race

It's about culture
Most central and south Americans are hardworking religious conservatives oriented to family. It's really not the same thing as whatever European immigration debates are going on. There's isn't much of a culture clash in the US. It's more of a racial clash.
 
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Exactly. People like this always complain that you should not call people ugly, fat etc. Yet they are the first one to attack somebody over looks, body and so on.


Except he does not do any of that. He looks at people trying to promote ugly chicks and asks a reasonable question - "why would you want to look at this fat whale in game when you can do the same outside?" or "would you rather wake with a attractive woman or some ugly monstrocity with a colored hair". It is just a common sense that a certain side has been trying to suppress since 2020 (even before) trying to tell people that ugly, committing crimes etc. is "good and fine" and normalcy is bad. He does not try to own anybody - it just happens that his stance on issue X or Y ends up being a common sense.


According to you he is "willingly lives and breathes filth " and has "a single talent". All while he has more money and influence than you. Where does exactly it put you then?

Exactly. People like this always complain that you should not call people ugly, fat etc. Yet they are the first one to attack somebody over looks, body and so on.


Except he does not do any of that. He looks at people trying to promote ugly chicks and asks a reasonable question - "why would you want to look at this fat whale in game when you can do the same outside?" or "would you rather wake with a attractive woman or some ugly monstrocity with a colored hair". It is just a common sense that a certain side has been trying to suppress since 2020 (even before) trying to tell people that ugly, committing crimes etc. is "good and fine" and normalcy is bad. He does not try to own anybody - it just happens that his stance on issue X or Y ends up being a common sense.


According to you he is "willingly lives and breathes filth " and has "a single talent". All while he has more money and influence than you. Where does exactly it put you then?
>Exactly. People like this always complain that you should not call people ugly, fat etc. Yet they are the first one to attack somebody over looks, body and so on.

Who tf is people like this? Criticizing others for looks and shit like that opens you up for the same. Always been the case.

>Except he does not do any of that. He looks at people trying to promote ugly chicks and asks a reasonable question - "why would you want to look at this fat whale in game when you can do the same outside?" or "would you rather wake with a attractive woman or some ugly monstrocity with a colored hair"



Is that what he does. That's all he does? He doesn't speak constantly over the hours a day he streams about a wide range of political topics. Sure lol

>It is just a common sense that a certain side has been trying to suppress since 2020 (even before) trying to tell people that ugly, committing crimes etc. is "good and fine" and normalcy is bad. He does not try to own anybody - it just happens that his stance on issue X or Y ends up being a common sense.

A) I don't completely disagree with the point, to a degree. Mortal Kombat can and should have sexy looking fighters. Getting outraged that the girl in intergalactic is bald and not immediately attractive to everyone when she's an almost photo realistic rendition of her actress on the other hand is sad and pathetic. The game is obviously being written to tell a deeper grounded story so it makes sense that main character doesn't have ddd fits in skin tight clothing. That's pretty simple I feel.

B) my point is a man talking on others looks endlessly while looking and living like asmongold is funny in a sad way. Others taking him serious is concerning.

Common sense except all the games he's proclaimed woke or whatever that have gone on to be wildly successful. Common sense except he speaks on games that will or won't be successful while playing almost exclusively WoW and barely if even touching any of the games he claims are the bastions of gaming or whatever.

>According to you he is "willingly lives and breathes filth " and has "a single talent". All while he has more money and influence than you. Where does exactly it put you then?

Ah the age old argument of he makes more money than you so he's probably smarter and better than you, became doubly true with the rise of social media influencers and streamers for sure. And you aren't the exact type of guy who shits on female influencers all day long, not at all.
 
>Why do you care if he has roaches in his home or that he "reeks" ?

Because losers are using a man whose single talent was being very good at WoW a decade ago that willingly lives and breathes filth as some odd beacon of morality and culture war.

>See, it's always people like you that are supposed to be tolerant® that are the biggest insecure, evil-hearted, petty bigots that have to always go with the ad hominem attacks, ALWAYS.

Nope. Don't pretend to be super tolerant or anything of the sort. And anyway, being tolerant of those whose lives don't effect me in any way shape or form vs being tolerant of a trash man spewing nasty rhetoric about others on a consistent basis despite having 0 social skills, 0 hygiene, and 0 ability to live like a somewhat normal human being in the year 2025 are two different things. I can love my neighbor on the left side of my house whose name I don't know, and hate the guy on the right who lets his dog bark 24/7. 2 different things.

>You're not tolerant, you're not better than everybody else, you're just projecting and virtue signaling and frankly, that's so 2020, we've come a long way since then my guy, them internet cookie points have finished.

Mm nope. I am better than asmongold in almost every objective way. My house stays clean, I bathe regularly, I muster up the energy to throw trash away rather than let it rot, I don't react with negative vitriol and deep emotion at video game trailers for games made by probably like 2 people, I married a human woman and am working on kid #2 atm, and I did all that without being a multi millionaire from one of the comfiest jobs imaginable.

>Also, that projection in the end man...just like my friend Miku said earlier, go grab a mirror...😁

Mmm normal guy I'm looking at with a fairly productive life, a job that requires a hell of a lot more physical energy yet I don't use a dead animal as an alarm clock by choice.

>The level of lack of self awareness with some of you is fucking unbelievable...

Sure it is. Or maybe asmongold is just a pretty trashy person and if you find yourself consistently agreeing with him, it says quite a bit even if you don't see that yet.

I like Asmondgold but damn, you are absolutely on the money here.

Asmonds grip on reality is about, if not worse than a Kardashian talking about modern politics. He has 0 idea of what a regular person who contributes to society does on a daily basis.

hes a loser (in the most loving way possible) but if you know that and treat his output as entertainment then its fine. The issue is, like you said, is that theres droves of people who genuinely think all of his comments are gold and he is a bastion of truth for todays youth when he is just a popular member of the great unwashed.

If I had to smell him or his house when I watched his videos id probably puke, and Id bet tons of his listeners / viewers would drop him in a heart beat.

All the best with Kid number 2.
 
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I like Asmondgold but damn, you are absolutely on the money here.

Asmonds grip on reality is about, if not worse than a Kardashian talking about modern politics. He has 0 idea of what a regular person who contributes to society does on a daily basis.

hes a loser (in the most loving way possible) but if you know that and treat his output as entertainment then its fine. The issue is, like you said, is that theres droves of people who genuinely think all of his comments are gold and he is a bastion of truth for todays youth when he is just a popular member of the great unwashed.

If I had to smell him or his house when I watched his videos id probably puke, and Id bet tons of his listeners / viewers would drop him in a heart beat.

All the best with Kid number 2.
Hey first of all thanks brother. Obviously super nervous for number 2 but I have a pretty strong belief you kind of your kid that lifelong best friend. First one was a girl this one's a boy so hell yea.

Secondly that's all I'm saying. Live and let live is a pretty golden policy but he doesn't do that. I mean shit one of his newest YT videos looks like the devs of this game had to delete their socials, or maybe it's just clickbait. Like the dude against censorship is gate keeping what a game can or can't be about as if illegal immigrants have ever played any role in his life.
 
Secondly that's all I'm saying. Live and let live is a pretty golden policy but he doesn't do that. I mean shit one of his newest YT videos looks like the devs of this game had to delete their socials, or maybe it's just clickbait. Like the dude against censorship is gate keeping what a game can or can't be about as if illegal immigrants have ever played any role in his life.


Can you establish a valid cause-effect relation between his actions and the closure of these accounts?

Normally, when these heavenly people close their accounts it's because there's something they don't want us to see. Something that, inevitably, exposes them as frauds. This happens every fucking day.

So, no, unless you dont provide solid evidence that a concrete action of this youtuber (or his followers) led to harassment or threats, you can't say those devs deleted their socials because of that. More like fear of getting exposed for whatever reason. I can take a guess.
 
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Most central and south Americans are hardworking religious conservatives oriented to family. It's really not the same thing as whatever European immigration debates are going on. There's isn't much of a culture clash in the US. It's more of a racial clash.

There are cultural, economic and no doubt some racial aspects to it. It is unlikely the ~half of Hispanics who voted for Trump running on a platform of closing the border and mass deportations were motivated by racism, for instance. More likely they were motivated by non-race-related concerns, and many non-Hispanic voters share those same concerns.

I think it's probably true that the culture clash is not as drastic as between Islamic immigrants and Western nations, but they are not exactly the same either. People from the nations central and south American culture created are fleeing them to live in a nation Western culture created; the reverse is not true. The proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say.
 
There are cultural, economic and no doubt some racial aspects to it. It is unlikely the ~half of Hispanics who voted for Trump running on a platform of closing the border and mass deportations were motivated by racism, for instance. More likely they were motivated by non-race-related concerns, and many non-Hispanic voters share those same concerns.

I think it's probably true that the culture clash is not as drastic as between Islamic immigrants and Western nations, but they are not exactly the same either. People from the nations central and south American culture created are fleeing them to live in a nation Western culture created; the reverse is not true. The proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say.
I just don't see any actual culture clash at all. At most, there are some language barriers. Their kids learn English, go to college, integrate flawlessly. Hispanic voting choices last election and their reasons are a whole other issue I won't really get into but there's polling, and a lot of people making uninformed choices like everyone else. Some anti-woke votes, some economic anti-inflation votes, etc.
 
Can you establish a valid cause-effect relation between his actions and the closure of these accounts?

Normally, when these heavenly people close their accounts it's because there's something they don't want us to see. Something that, inevitably, exposes them as frauds. This happens every fucking day.

So, no, unless you dont provide solid evidence that a concrete action of this youtuber (or his followers) led to harassment or threats, you can't say those devs deleted their socials because of that. More like fear of getting exposed for whatever reason. I can take a guess.
No I'm sure I can't find a cause effect relation you would find "solid" in relation to this context. I'm sure even a written statement from the guys that closed their account giving that as the reason would be met with a swift "they are just using that as en excuse, the 650k views video by a huge streamer had 0 effect on a tiny ass studio and game you idiot" so I won't bother.

Yes I'm sure they have a deep hidden history
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Where the internets best and brightest are the only ones who can solve the mystery.

You ask for unattainable, black and white proof. I say it's a situation where critical thinking needs to be applied to put two and two together. Sure your way is easier when you can, my way is soo hard though. No, asmongold didn't ask his follower to attack this game. He didn't directly state "here is their twitter, attack" because it's bannable to do so on every platform. He did draw a ton of attention to it though from a lot of young emotional people with a lot of free time.
 
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... the 'concern' for those who consider mass illegal immigration to be deeply detrimental to their society is that efforts like this can be successful in their attempts to sugar coat and thus contribute to perpetuating it, and so they would prefer that it not happen.
You could've just said I was right. This is just a sugar coated version of this:
... concerned with this piece of interactive media serving its purpose of having other people empathize with America's chosen enemy of the times.

Also, congratulations!

You now understand both how Jack Thompson felt about violence in video games and how Collective Shout feels about games depicting sexual assault.

Guess it ain't so bad when it's the message you hate being suppressed. Can't complain when it happens to the message you love though, that would be hypocrisy; regardless of what you think is reasonable.
 
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You ask for unattainable, black and white proof. I say it's a situation where critical thinking needs to be applied to put two and two together.


Precisely, because I have critical thinking (plus a certain age and life experience) I can tell that people with actually strong values and "a mission" don't melt down because a few internet nobodies mock them on twitter. If you are confident about the message you preach, you should welcome the free marketing. This just demonstrates they are in it for themselves, as the vast majority of the posturing moral champions.

If you want to sell a product and you get an influencer to talk about you, even if it's bad, that's beneficial to you. Otherwise, nobody would know of you or the thing you are advertising. Many people are going to praise the game just to antagonize Asmongold, so it's free exposure for those devs.

So, either they feel extremely insecure over what they are doing or they are not trying to sell anything to anyone. Like many other similar small fake projects, get funding is their only purpose.
 
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You could've just said I was right.
Oh, I didn't read your statement to imply that the game would seek to mislead people, as my statement implied, but if you're saying that is what you meant too then fair enough.

Also, congratulations; you now understand how Jack Thompson felt about GTA.
Thank you, I already understood how he felt about GTA and understood the argument against GTA. The difference imo being that GTA does not in fact exist to advocate for violence and theft etc. in real life and I don't believe it causes an increase in those things, whereas this exists specifically to advocate for illegal immigration and to champion those facilitating it. The presentation seemed to be fairly open about this and I think it's likely the devs would not only not dispute this but be proud of it.

It is possible for Jack Thompson to feel as he did about GTA and be wrong, while others can feel as they do about this game and be right.
 
No I'm sure I can't find a cause effect relation you would find "solid" in relation to this context. I'm sure even a written statement from the guys that closed their account giving that as the reason would be met with a swift "they are just using that as en excuse, the 650k views video by a huge streamer had 0 effect on a tiny ass studio and game you idiot" so I won't bother.

Yes I'm sure they have a deep hidden history

Lol the comment on the video about when need to make a video game called "Send them south" had me dying.
 
Is that what he does. That's all he does? He doesn't speak constantly over the hours a day he streams about a wide range of political topics. Sure lol
So? Events happen and he talks about them. That's what a lot of streamers are about. Simple as that. News media is also talking about it. Reddit is also talking about news. People on forums too. Each with their own spin or take.

I don't completely disagree with the point, to a degree. Mortal Kombat can and should have sexy looking fighters. Getting outraged that the girl in intergalactic is bald and not immediately attractive to everyone when she's an almost photo realistic rendition of her actress on the other hand is sad and pathetic. The game is obviously being written to tell a deeper grounded story so it makes sense that main character doesn't have ddd fits in skin tight clothing. That's pretty simple I feel.
Most of the people don't like bald women. Just like you don't have fat men n games in 90%+ of the cases if not more. And yeah MK making characters ugly was a bad idea - who wants to play as a middle aged woman? C'mon. Who wants to play a bald snarky woman (who will probably leave more comments than Atreus or whatever)? People want attractive characters in game - almost evey man in game is either fit or thin for example. Who wants to play as elderly balding fatso unless only for lulz?

Ah the age old argument of he makes more money than you so he's probably smarter and better than you, became doubly true with the rise of social media influencers and streamers for sure. And you aren't the exact type of guy who shits on female influencers all day long, not at all.
I can shit on anybody and I am not trying to pretend like I have a higher moral ground or anything. The reality is - people don't like ugly. Everybody wants to look cool or attractive if it is possible - it is just certain groups have been trying to push the idea that if you are fat you are entitled to adoration, love and treatment the same way as famous, fit or attractive person. And other opinions on that were banned or restricted.
 
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If you want to sell a product and you get an influencer to talk about you, even if it's bad, that's beneficial to you. Otherwise, nobody would know of you or the thing you are advertising. Many people are going to praise the game just to antagonize Asmongold, so it's free exposure for those devs.
I think this is likely correct in this case. I think it's probably not true for an already higher profile game like AC Shadows or DA Veilguard, but for something like this or even Avowed I think high profile negative attention / drama is likely better than no attention.

My suspicion about the media etc. being pulled down following Asmon's coverage is that someone -probably at Microsoft or whoever is paying for this shit- was mortified by that years out of date style presentation. Asmon brought the audience, but you cannot be delivering a 'these are my pronouns / fuck Trump / go coyotes!' presentation when these major companies are now trying to pivot towards being less aggressively woke (or at least to hide it better). These companies don't want to associate with an aggressive 'go woke or fuck off' approach anymore. Even if they don't care about money and it's only about pushing a message they still want more subtlety than this now. These guys must not have got the memo.

If we see this game again, I think the marketing will have pivoted to a more game-first approach.
 
Precisely, because I have critical thinking (plus a certain age and life experience) I can tell that people with actually strong values and "a mission" don't melt down because a few internet nobodies mock them on twitter. If you are confident about the message you preach, you should welcome the free marketing. This just demonstrates they are in it for themselves, as the vast majority of the posturing moral champions.

If you want to sell a product and you get an influencer to talk about you, even if it's bad, that's beneficial to you. Otherwise, nobody would know of you or the thing you are advertising. Many people are going to praise the game just to antagonize Asmongold, so it's free exposure for those devs.

So, either they feel extremely insecure over what they are doing or they are not trying to sell anything to anyone. Like many other similar small fake projects, get funding is their only purpose.
>Precisely, because I have critical thinking (plus a certain age and life experience)

So Mr. Critical thinking, what evidence would you like I ask again? It's the same circle with you guys all the time. You ask for something you know you'll refute regardless. Sheer critical thinking at work.

>I can tell that people with actually strong values and "a mission" don't melt down because a few internet nobodies mock them on twitter. If you are confident about the message you preach, you should welcome the free marketing. This just demonstrates they are in it for themselves, as the vast majority of the posturing moral champions.

Hold on, let me scribble this down in my notepad real quick.

"Any developer, no matter how tiny, that announces their game to then become a target for harassment and hate spewing at their socials and employees personal accounts should just grow thicker skin and never, ever temporarily deactivate their account until the harassers lose interest and move on to the next one. Doing so proves you don't care about the thing you say you care about, obviosly."

>If you want to sell a product and you get an influencer to talk about you, even if it's bad, that's beneficial to you. Otherwise, nobody would know of you or the thing you are advertising. Many people are going to praise the game just to antagonize Asmongold, so it's free exposure for those devs.

Alright hold on, gotta open that notepad back up. "Ignore employee names being posted and attacks on social media, all publicity is good, depend on asmongold haters buying your game out of spite for asmongold to make your game successful." Got it

>So, either they feel extremely insecure over what they are doing or they are not trying to sell anything to anyone. Like many other similar small fake projects, get funding is their only purpose.

Here I gotta scribble these connections real quick.

"Any publicity is good publicity. Asmongold haters will buy nearly anything to spite asmongold. Not responding well to being harassed online is a sign of insecurity actually. Also game is probably fake looking for funding, but in that case asmongold a publicity is actually bad and that's why they turned their social media off."

Genius, got it. I'll study those notes and let you know big dog.
 
The idea that people are cancelling a game that nobody would buy in the first place is hilarious to me.
I don't even know what was "canceled" here.

It's not like MS pulled the plug on them. True cancellation is getting your funding removed or getting deplatformed from communication spaces.

These pussies canceled themselves.
 
I don't even know what was "canceled" here.

It's not like MS pulled the plug on them. True cancellation is getting your funding removed or getting deplatformed from communication spaces.

These pussies canceled themselves.
Yeah the "game" will still come out. They just went into hiding because people are questioning their motives. Bad look on them. What are they worried people will find out?
 
You could've just said I was right. This is just a sugar coated version of this:


Also, congratulations!

You now understand both how Jack Thompson felt about violence in video games and how Collective Shout feels about games depicting sexual assault.

Guess it ain't so bad when it's the message you hate being suppressed. Can't complain when it happens to the message you love though, that would be hypocrisy; regardless of what you think is reasonable.
Why hypocrisy? we all have different takes and different feelings on what we think is important.
 
Asmond deported that shit!

I've been saying MS doubled down on all the DEI stuff, for anyone thinking they learned any lessons, you're wrong. Prepare for more slop.
 
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Asmond deported that shit!

I've been saying MS doubled down on all the DEI stuff, for anything thinking they learned any lessons, you're wrong. Prepare for more slop.
Yep. And their subscription service is just the ideal vehicle to stuff these things down yr throats without much resistance. You will play it and you will be happy! ;) Smart!
 
The idea that people are cancelling a game that nobody would buy in the first place is hilarious to me.
But are people cancelling the game or not?

Look at the video that you shared on this page. Yesterday it was titled "We did it". Today it seems to have changed to "Gamers did it". Asmongold is already being smart with how one title can be perceived versus the other and making subtle moves. Regardless, gamers did what?

A few seconds in he goes "Did I get it deported or aborted?" and relishes that tweet. Both sound synonymous to cancellation, no? But no, there is no cancellation going on.

What's the spin that we are telling ourselves? "Exposing the truth"? Journalism?

I'm not saying canceling this particular game is bad. It may not even be a real game, but just a scam, which would actually deserve to be cancelled. It looks like we will never know. We can all assume whatever is convenient for our conscience, but we may never actually know.

Anyway, love you, Kacho. But this topic has gone sour for me. I have no interest in celebrating on graves, even that of thieves.

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It is possible for Jack Thompson to feel as he did about GTA and be wrong, while others can feel as they do about this game and be right.
Only a postmodern mind would be able to defend such a statement.

You're just as right as Jack or Collective Shout.

Why hypocrisy? we all have different takes and different feelings on what we think is important.

If you're for censorship, then you're for it. If you're against it, then you're against it.

If you're for it in some cases and against in others, you're a hypocrite. For any further elaborations, I'd point you to a dictionary.
 
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