The best part is that any evidence to the contrary is also only from rumor and speculation. But looking through his post history that hasn't stopped him from wildly jumping down Microsoft's throat in every thread where always online has been rumored.
Microsoft: Next Xbox will work even when your Internet doesnt
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The best part is that any evidence to the contrary is also only from rumor and speculation. But looking through his post history that hasn't stopped him from wildly jumping down Microsoft's throat in every thread where always online has been rumored.
PopcornMegaphone
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Of course you do. I bet you also forgive them for their kinect-like camera.
The point is, blu-ray jacked up the price of the PS3 without really benefiting games.
Again, the PS4 looks awesome, but they're not only catering to hardcore gamers.
thesuperfunk
Member
Kinect?
Haha really?
How about the fact that nothing matters until the console is actually shown and is on store shelves?
So, that would apply to this rumor too right?
LOL
I wonder who the real fanboy is here.....
BAD = Rumor!!!
GOOD = Set in stone, confirmed and.... oh boy my dick is really hard...
True Underdog
Member
To be fair, the same lack of information has been enough to see, "good that settles it I'm not getting this piece of shit console anyway" posts for the last month or so.
That said, I'm still taking this with a grain of salt and holding out til the 21st/E3 before I start deciding. Will probably get both the next box and PS4. Just deciding on which to get first.
Impeccable
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I mean if you'd like to vouch for a site feel free. Some of us don't hang around the internet enough to understand the reliability of any given website.
Perhaps a brief breakdown of their credibility for those who don't know? It's not exactly unreasonable.
la flama blanca
Banned
Kinect-like camera? Joke post? The Playstation eye has been in development WAY before the Kinect. The bluray didn't benefit PS3 games? Are you kidding me?
I bet they considered lots of stuff that didn't happen. If not, then they are bad developers.
Pretty obvious that I was talking about GAF, not Edge. I guess not to you though.
Impeccable
Member
Not to anyone.
"Haha really"
So you're saying you called GAF = Sonyland? People got banned for BS like that.
A is just how every other leak works, people break NDAs, thats the nature of these rumours. With regards to b, someone suggested this may be in preparation for when post-May 21 employees can talk about the new Xbox and promote it, which I think is logical. For c, I think it's pretty likely he was just trying to defend his company despite not knowing the real state of affairs. Remember, work on Durango is supposed to be super secretive even within the company and even people working on it had alibis in case their superiors questioned them on it. And he's only one of many creative directors, his title was always seemingly smaller that it appears in isolation.
Baconsammy
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Of course it applies to this rumor. The only people paying attention right now are folks like us. Mass market that will decide the fate of Sony and MS didn't care about the earlier rumor, and they don't care about this one. Because they're not listening. They'll care when they can buy it.
This is what I'm thinking too. It seems like it could be a really late game decision.
Syphon Filter
Member
Nice now it's time for May 21.
darkistheway
Member
I trust that Ars Technica did their due diligence but I'm going to wait until I hear it from the horse's mouth.
But isn't the used gaming market popular in Japan? I always thought that it was.
This. Being always online to play games as well as blocking used copies of games would be considered suicidal, especially when a lot of people don't have internet access or have bad internet in general.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Yeah, even if the system allows you to play games offline, it still might block used games, which is what I am afraid of.
DragonSworne
Banned
Public outcry and watershed moments like the Simcity always online debacle potentially changing the pr course of always online as a whole is very relevant.
How could the outcry not matter? It might have just saved your beloved console.
SlipperyFishes
Banned
The best case scenario is that Microsoft will lease you the Xbox 720, you'll not be able to use it without signing up to a 2 year contract with Xbox Live and a downpayment of $299.
At the end of the two year contact you can take up the lease again and they'll let you reconnect to the Xbox Network - otherwise you have a dead paperweight.
.....which is about as likely as this always online bullcrap.
Let's wait for the 21st and then burn or praise Microsoft.
At the end of the two year contact you can take up the lease again and they'll let you reconnect to the Xbox Network - otherwise you have a dead paperweight.
.....which is about as likely as this always online bullcrap.
Let's wait for the 21st and then burn or praise Microsoft.
Metalmurphy
Member
Obviously. There was no way it was going to happen.
George Claw M.D.
Member
So Microsoft's online-required trial balloon showed a huge backlash against the rumor. So they scrapped it. Well done Internet!
Baconsammy
Banned
Oh my. Haha.
statham
Member
a leaked internal memo?
XtremeXpider
Member
I am hyped about the HTPC capabilities on next Xbox, people should know what are gaining if Durango really is "THE" HTPC.
I would like to open a thread about it, but my english is too bad xD
sure, whatever makes you happy.
Neuromancer
Member
I think its more likely the next bad news will PSN will go the way of Xbox Live, but that's a discussion for another thread.
famousmortimer
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I never thought that always online was going to make it to launch. But that doesn't mean that the rumors were wrong. There's a good chance that Microsoft were contemplating it. I know from people inside sony that they also contemplated always online and no used games but eventually decided against them.
Who knows... that entire Adam Orth fiasco may have been what changed minds inside ms after they saw how their customers reacted to the news.
Who knows... that entire Adam Orth fiasco may have been what changed minds inside ms after they saw how their customers reacted to the news.
Impeccable
Member
Well he's the massive insider for all things Microsoft, or so I've been led to believe. It would make perfect sense for him to have the same access.
It didn't confirm anything other than him being a dick. If you were a notable person for a company and saying the shit he did, you too would be fired. It makes the company look bad.
Baconsammy
Banned
Well, it seems like the current conspiracy is that Microsoft leaked the memo on purpose. So it would make sense (in the scope of the conspiracy) that they leaked it to everyone for maximum coverage.
many places
Member
Of course they mention blu-rays and live tv before playing games. Dammit MS drop the fucking entertainment focus already.
Yes because leaking it makes more sense then them just godamn saying it.
Seriously people.
It applies to any news before the console is actually revealed.
Due to Ars listed it clearly as "official mail", I think they has contacted MSFT PR and got greenlight before posting this feature.
la flama blanca
Banned
They probably will and I'd hate them for it. PC and single player PS4 games all the way then.
The console doesn't officially exist until the 21st.
FYI, they won't.
Neither will Sony.
If you don't want heavy entertainment features
in your gaming console then the best system to get out of the three is the Wii U.
DragonSworne
Banned
Then why were Peter Moore, Reggie, Iwata, Miyamoto, and Kaz not imeddiately fired after making their companies look bad?
Not if there was no truth to the rumor then it is just chat. If there was truth to it then it irreparably damaged their planned spin so that dude gets canned.
Uhh, if anything, doesn't this confirm that the "legitimate concerns" were actually very real and that Microsoft is trying to react accordingly (assuming it is, in fact, legit)? Look at the language they use in that email. It talks about user expectations and how they SHOULD respond to those expectations. That indicates a change in policy, a new set of instructions, or some sort of clarifying instructions to make sure that the development team is on the same wavelength with corporate (and vice versa).