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[DenchDeckard]

Boom we eating.

inflation is up 15.1 % since the launch of consoles.

I remember when everyone accepted Sony putting hardware costs up due to inflation and now we have ten pages of posts over ms mirroring the prices everyone else has had for 2 years haha.

Classic shit

 

[Urban]

tbh the gaming prices stayed for a very long time the same.

 

[Banjo64]

I thought MS were the good guys?!?

Our Xbros right now;

 

[hemo memo]

I find it pointless to buy games at full price other than Nintendo because they rarely go down in price. I mean just wait couple of months and you can buy the game cheap.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Maybe Microsoft also realised how the fuck do we buy Activision with cod when that costs 70 dollars on ps5 and xbox, we can't drop the price to 60 after buying them. It just wouldn't work for shareholders and such.

They've kinda been forced into from multiple angles.

Also I like the idea of being baddies for a bit, sonys been the bad guys for too long. Let's be baddies.

 

[GHG]

Boom we eating.


I remember when everyone accepted Sony putting hardware costs up due to inflation and now we have ten pages of posts over ms mirroring the prices everyone else has had for 2 years haha.

Classic shit

You've not seen anything yet. We have some individual posters here who have ammased around 10 pages worth of posts across various unrelated threads bitching about Sony's price increases over the last 12 months or so.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Prepare for the mealtdown when Gamepass raises its price too.

Even if that should occur... you do realize there still won't be a better gaming value anywhere. How much is it going to raise to where it won't still be a better deal than anything else on offer?

Game Pass is possibly on track to generate over $4 billion or close to it just this year alone. It will be fine.

 

[Topher]

I remember when everyone accepted Sony putting hardware costs up due to inflation and now we have ten pages of posts over ms mirroring the prices everyone else has had for 2 years haha.

Classic shit

Right.....this 33 page thread consists solely of people "accepting" what Sony did?

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ps5-price-to-increase-in-select-markets.1640588/

 

[MisterXDTV]

game pass increase within the next 12 months for sure

People stack up years in advance anyway

 

[Banjo64]

Got Tears of the Kingdom pre-ordered for £42. Based, consumer friendly, lovely and soft Nintendo. Good boy.

 

[Valedix]

Don't they have to release games first

 

[PaintTinJr]

The difference being Microsoft sold next gen versions of their games for 60 when Sony did it for 70 and Sony pioneered it. One set the standard the other followed them. Not really difficult to grasp. Just like Microsoft screwed with paid online and Sony followed the suit.

The only observation I would make IMHO as a very long-term gamer is that the finish, production costs on PlayStation's first party software always looks much higher, and feels like it should cost more, whether that is GT vs Forza or any other parallel being made of two overlapping first party games. so it wasn't a surprise to me they went with the price rise on their own without Xbox. Maybe if Xbox followed suit closely competition agencies would have said there was price fixing.

With the negative coverage PlayStation had over the price increase, and it happened before inflation started to bite, I won't be surprised if after xmas PlayStation rise game prices again to £80 to maintain the differential, knowing that the outrage has already happened - which they took - and so will have far less impact on a second rise. Don't get me wrong, the prices don't reflect the lower prices I pay for new/sealed games or am prepared to pay. as I haven't paid over £50 for any of my AAA PS5 games since the rise But I suspect if the SRP moves to £80 for PS5 games they'll start to get a little closer to getting £70 from gamers like me, too.

 

[Topher]

You stink bro.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Microsoft is quicker to discount titles than everyone else, especially Nintendo.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Don't they have to release games first

That's why their press is always in future tense

 

[vodka-bull]

But with gamepass and 1st party titles eeleasing day 1 on it it‘s still the better deal. Miles ahead of Sony, which really is for the payers (looking at you, tlou part 1!!)

 

[SmokedMeat]

Even if that should occur... you do realize there still won't be a better gaming value on consoles.

Fixed it for you.

 

[kapshin]

Don Matrick would never

 

[JackMcGunns]

It has fuck all to do with inflation lmao

We blame everything on inflation. Stand in line

 

[Gambit2483]

I predict Gamepass rates will increase with (or around) the launch of Starfield.

In any event a Gamepass price hike is definitely in the cards for 2023.

 

[Dick Jones]

I predict Gamepass rates will increase with (or around) the launch of Starfield.

In any event a Gamepass price hike is definitely in the cards for 2023.

I predict a significant increase and when there is pushback, they will half the increase claiming we listen to our fans.

See Gold increase and backdown as prior history.

 

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Thread Summary

 

[Stardust_Dragon]

I know some people here are saying that Gamepass price increase is inevitable, probably prior to the release of the next Call of Duty game (assuming the ABK acquisition goes through). But I actually think the next change in Gamepass will take a different form than a simple increase of the current $15 a month for GPU. Rather, I think Microsoft will change the length of Gamepass subscription options for customers, by eliminating the 1 month option, and only offering 3 months, 6 months, and 1 year options for GPU.

The reason is that I think gaming, more specifically console gaming, is a rather different medium for consuming entertainment than tv shows/movies, and I think Microsoft is very much worried about the potential for plenty of gamers to just subscribe to GPU for 1 month around November/December each year to enjoy COD + other big AAA titles and dip back out of their service once the 1 month is up. So I think the next changes to Gamepass will be what I just described, along with the elimination to the $1 Gold conversion 'loophole', though I think most of us here probably agree that loophole is going to be gone sooner or later.

And for those who disagree with me on this, I would just ask where is the 1 year for $60 option for Xbox gamers to subscribe to Xbox Live Gold membership? That used to be there as an option for Xbox gamers, and I definitely don't see that option there anymore, just 1 month and 3 months options only available when trying to buy Gold membership subscription on the Xbox console and on the Xbox website.

 

[John Wick]

Yeah I missed the part when Xbox console prices were raised.

There should be no reason for MS to raise prices what with the profit they make every quarter. After all Phil is the good guy

 

[DarkMage619]

There should be no reason for MS to raise prices what with the profit they make every quarter. After all Phil is the good guy

There is no reason for MS to increase console prices because games and subs traditionally subsidize systems. I can't see XSS going for $250 now and then going up to what $350? It's not happening. Phil being a good guy has nothing to do with it.

 

[Die Namek Ability]

Might be an unpopular opinion but idgaf. I said it in the PS thread and ill say it here. $70 for the amount of content/quality in some of these games ( the ones worth buying) is just insane value. I spent $70 on GOWR, HFW, GT7, Returnal, Demons Souls, TLOUP1 and many more. If the quality is there the value is there. I would pay $70 for Starfield (pending reviews) and wouldnt blink. I get that some people cant afford games at that price but guess what you can wait a bit and buy them used or once they go on sale. I would love to drive a Ferrari but i guess ill have to settle for a used Ford Fusion like most folks that are budget oriented.

 

[jroc74]

I remember when everyone accepted Sony putting hardware costs up due to inflation

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Right.....this 33 page thread consists solely of people "accepting" what Sony did?

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ps5-price-to-increase-in-select-markets.1640588/

Its kinda wild seeing some folks trying to do the revisionist history bit....when its always there in black n white how ppl reacted to [insert outrage moment here]

Before recently you still had some ppl pissed at Sony for $70 games. Now the understanding comes....when many of us said this 2 years ago and recently.

 

[Goalus]

There should be no reason for MS to raise prices what with the profit they make every quarter. After all Phil is the good guy

It would look as if Sony games were more valuable otherwise (which is obviously ridiculous), so it is about time.

 

[ReBurn]

Boom we eating.


I remember when everyone accepted Sony putting hardware costs up due to inflation and now we have ten pages of posts over ms mirroring the prices everyone else has had for 2 years haha.

Classic shit

It's a good thing everyone's salary went up 15% in the last two years, too

 

[Topher]

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Its kinda wild seeing some folks trying to do the revisionist history bit....when its always there in black n white how ppl reacted to [insert outrage moment here]

Before recently you still had some ppl pissed at Sony for $70 games. Now the understanding comes....when many of us said this 2 years ago and recently.

Hard to take posters like that seriously.

It would look as if Sony games were more valuable otherwise (which is obviously ridiculous), so it is about time.

Maybe Microsoft should raise prices to $80 just to show how ridiculous it really is.

 

[PixelatedBeast]

The only observation I would make IMHO as a very long-term gamer is that the finish, production costs on PlayStation's first party software always looks much higher, and feels like it should cost more, whether that is GT vs Forza or any other parallel being made of two overlapping first party games. so it wasn't a surprise to me they went with the price rise on their own without Xbox. Maybe if Xbox followed suit closely competition agencies would have said there was price fixing.

With the negative coverage PlayStation had over the price increase, and it happened before inflation started to bite, I won't be surprised if after xmas PlayStation rise game prices again to £80 to maintain the differential, knowing that the outrage has already happened - which they took - and so will have far less impact on a second rise. Don't get me wrong, the prices don't reflect the lower prices I pay for new/sealed games or am prepared to pay.

I haven't paid over £50 for any of my AAA PS5 games since the rise But I suspect if the SRP moves to £80 for PS5 games they'll start to get a little closer to getting £70 from gamers like me, too.

 

[Hypereides]

It was bound to come. MS is probably the last big company to do it.

And it comes down to gamers accepting it. Once general consensus agrees to it, floodgates open and everyone copies.

Absolutely no different than the big change from discs to digital over the years (which for most people even includes needing to buy an external HDD for more storage). A big uproar at the beginning, but now accepted.

Same goes for patches. Console game patching used to be zero. Then during 360/PS3 era it was modest with few patches and they were small in size. Now, it seems console patches are as common and big than a PC patch. Again, gamers accept it so they'll keep doing it even after all the past laughs console gamers used to do to PC gamers how they got patches and consoles need zero.

There's been chat about this kind of stuff in different threads over time. And many of us said the same thing..... if game makers do it long enough, gamers eventually cave in and accept. As long as the game makers hold firm pushing it, gamers always bend.

The complacency and slow response of the majority will make these practices continue to go beyond what is thinkable. When there's little resistance, the industry will eventually get what it wants.

70$ seems high now? Pfft, that'll be the new "60$" whenever the next generations arrive and then the same cycle will ensue...

I guess it was inevitable but still sucks.

Although I haven’t purchased a single game on Xbox since I got it, so I guess I won’t even notice this in the end.

It wouldn't had been to begin with if most of the community had stood united and pushed against it.

 

[adamsapple]

 

[GhostOfTsu]

I remember when everyone accepted Sony putting hardware costs up due to inflation and now we have ten pages of posts over ms mirroring the prices everyone else has had for 2 years haha.

Classic shit

That's funny coming from you since you made it your mission to shit on Sony about prices in every thread for months.

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Its kinda wild seeing some folks trying to do the revisionist history bit....when its always there in black n white how ppl reacted to [insert outrage moment here]

Before recently you still had some ppl pissed at Sony for $70 games. Now the understanding comes....when many of us said this 2 years ago and recently.

What's worse is that poster is always complaining about Sony prices but then he bought the most exorbitant GPU

Hypocrisy and double standard is his trademark on this board.

 

[angrod14]

Even if that should occur... you do realize there still won't be a better gaming value anywhere. How much is it going to raise to where it won't still be a better deal than anything else on offer?

Game Pass is possibly on track to generate over $4 billion or close to it just this year alone. It will be fine.

I think the "value" argument is subjective. Best value in gaming... for people with ADHD who constantly jump from one game to another and don't care about their shit being tied to a rental, sure. But I've tried, and it is not for me. Many people feel the same way.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Considering that only "some" games are getting the rise, and ONLY games, I'm surprised this thread is this big. Many games may not be raised, the c onsoles are having their prices raise, neither is Gold and Gamepass, so this doesn't seem very controversial.

 

[SteelCurtain 59]

Did the Sony fanboys bragging about this think Xbox was going to keep it at 60 forever? In the 2+ years between Sony doing it and Microsoft doing it there may have been this little war or something that caused massive inflation. But let's just ignore that to dunk on Microsoft for giving Xbox players TWO YEARS of paying less for 1st party games than Sony. I fail to see how this is some massive gacha or huge PR blow for doing this. Yeah it sucks for those who don't have Game Pass, but pricing Xbox games the same as Playstation games was always going to eventually happen, if anything this just brings attention to the fact that Sony was doing this far longer than Microsoft

 

[Mr Moose]

Considering that only "some" games are getting the rise, and ONLY games, I'm surprised this thread is this big. Many games may not be raised, the c onsoles are having their prices raise, neither is Gold and Gamepass, so this doesn't seem very controversial.

Yes, AA games won't be $70, maybe.

Did the Sony fanboys bragging about this think Xbox was going to keep it at 60 forever? In the 2+ years between Sony doing it and Microsoft doing it there may have been this little war or something that caused massive inflation. But let's just ignore that to dunk on Microsoft for giving Xbox players TWO YEARS of paying less for 1st party games than Sony. I fail to see how this is some massive gacha or huge PR blow for doing this. Yeah it sucks for those who don't have Game Pass, but pricing Xbox games the same as Playstation games was always going to eventually happen, if anything this just brings attention to the fact that Sony was doing this far longer than Microsoft

Or, you know, just dunk on the hypocritical fanboys who were saying it was anti-consumer when Sony did it, but now *crickets*.
And really only one year since they didn't really release anything big this year.

 

[xellos2099alpha]

People who say they cannot afford $70 games are probably digital only. Buy physical and resell after it is done. I bough gow:r for 65 ish, beat it and sold it for 55

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

Did the Sony fanboys bragging about this think Xbox was going to keep it at 60 forever? In the 2+ years between Sony doing it and Microsoft doing it there may have been this little war or something that caused massive inflation. But let's just ignore that to dunk on Microsoft for giving Xbox players TWO YEARS of paying less for 1st party games than Sony. I fail to see how this is some massive gacha or huge PR blow for doing this. Yeah it sucks for those who don't have Game Pass, but pricing Xbox games the same as Playstation games was always going to eventually happen, if anything this just brings attention to the fact that Sony was doing this far longer than Microsoft

Let's also not forget that MS is stating this applies to next gen only titles. And... they haven't released any of them, this decision could have been taken 2 years ago behind close doors but because they weren't releasing any next gen only titles they just held the announcement until they had something ready.

 

[adamsapple]

People who say they cannot afford $70 games are probably digital only. Buy physical and resell after it is done. I bough gow:r for 65 ish, beat it and sold it for 55

Buying, reselling, renting, getting used copies etc is the main reason I'm always 100% physical, as long as physical-disc enabled consoles exist.

 

[levyjl1988]

Just get the game on Gamepass or wait for the game is on sale. No biggie here.

 

[Die Namek Ability]

Buying, reselling, renting, getting used copies etc is the main reason I'm always 100% physical, as long as physical-disc enabled consoles exist.

game pass is even better of a deal now.

Holy shit game pass is physical too!?

 

[SteelCurtain 59]

Yes, AA games won't be $70, maybe.

Or, you know, just dunk on the hypocritical fanboys who were saying it was anti-consumer when Sony did it, but now *crickets*.
And really only one year since they didn't really release anything big this year.

Doing it two years earlier (Before the Ukraine War) is way more anti-consumer than doing it now. And if anything I'm seeing way more of the "hypocritical fanboys" acting like this is absolutely terrible but when Sony did it it was justified. Also with Game Pass you at least have a way around paying those prices, with Sony it's $70 or you can't play the game

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

Can't believe people still believe the crap Phil Spencer says ... Remember, "next year will be a big year for Xbox"

 

[adamsapple]

Holy shit game pass is physical too!?

Those two things are not mutually exclusive

Can't believe people still believe the crap Phil Spencer says ... Remember, "next year will be a big year for Xbox"

He told us about the price hike after the holidays months ago.

Phil remains the most trustworthy executive

Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Says Price Hikes Are Coming, But Not Until After The Holidays

"I do think at some point we'll have to raise the prices on certain things..."

www.gamespot.com

 

[Gambit2483]

I predict a significant increase and when there is pushback, they will half the increase claiming we listen to our fans.

See Gold increase and backdown as prior history.

Basically, yeah. You go as far extreme as you can so that when you course-correct by "listening to the fans" you've hit your target and come out looking the the hero company that "gets us".

 

[legacy24]

Can't believe people still believe the crap Phil Spencer says ... Remember, "next year will be a big year for Xbox"

Phil and Matt booty need to go

 

[Haggard]

Expected.
Now where are the games that are worth it MS?

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

Those two things are not mutually exclusive

Phil and Matt booty need to go

Idk about Matt booty but I don't see Phil being there any longer if next year is another bad year. Wouldn't be surprised if the Activision deal had something to do with this.