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Microsoft says three future Bethesda games will be PC, Xbox exclusive

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A.Romero

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What would be the point of spending billions to acquire studios if it's not to gain competitive advantage?

I don't think PS needs those games to survive either.

PC seems to be the place to go in the future. I think Steamdeck is making a difference and making PC gaming more accessible.
 
OsirisBlack

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Punished Miku said:
Pretty much what I always expected. Games with a large multiplatform community are not worth disrupting. Single player, small scale multiplayer, or new IP are going to be exclusive to justify MS spending $8 billion and paying all the staff to make games.

Call of Duty will remain multiplatform. Potential for a few other games as well from Activision / Blizz on a case by case basis such as Overwatch, Diablo, etc.
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Diablo IV is only on Sonys machine because of contracts that were in place before that acquisition. Diablo IV had been in production for a long while.
 
Punished Miku

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OsirisBlack said:
Diablo IV is only on Sonys machine because of contracts that were in place before that acquisition. Diablo IV had been in production for a long while.
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Maybe. I don't think most third party games like that get contracts unless exclusivity is negotiated. Starfield was also in production for years.

Diablo IV is a pretty big deal. I have a feeling they'd keep it multiplat but who knows. Case by case basis.
 
OsirisBlack

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Punished Miku said:
Maybe. I don't think most third party games like that get contracts unless exclusivity is negotiated. Starfield was also in production for years.

Diablo IV is a pretty big deal. I have a feeling they'd keep it multiplat but who knows. Case by case basis.
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What’s a bigger deal Diablo IV or Elder Scrolls VI?
 
Chukhopops

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drganon said:
Phil " do as I say not as I do" Spencer.
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But they never said Bethesda games would be multiplat, stop lying. Read the announcement.

Edit since people struggle:
“This is the next step in building an industry-leading first party studios team, a commitment we have to our Xbox community,” says Microsoft’s gaming chief Phil Spencer. “With the addition of the Bethesda creative teams, gamers should know that Xbox consoles, PC, and Game Pass will be the best place to experience new Bethesda games, including some new titles in the future that will be exclusive to Xbox and PC players.”
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Angry Season 4 GIF by The Office

Day 1 of the deal closing.
 
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Torrent of Pork

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OsirisBlack said:
What’s a bigger deal Diablo IV or Elder Scrolls VI?
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Diablo is going to make an astronomically greater amount of money through microtransactions than ES6. Keeping Diablo multiplat is a no-brainer.

Edit - Frankly every Xbox game could come to PS and I wouldn't care. Console exclusively is nothing more than a tax on the consumer IMO, and I derive no pleasure from other people not being able to enjoy a game on their preferred plastic box.
 
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Topher said:
I thought it was "case by case"
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Isn't it both? All Xbox first party games will be on Game Pass, so every platform that has Game Pass will have access to every Xbox first party game. Otherwise, it will be a case by case basis to see what Xbox first party games are put on other platforms.
 
Kusarigama

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drganon said:
Nothing shocking there. The only real mystery is whether that Indiana Jones game is exclusive ( most likely it is).
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Even I assumed that the 3rd game is Indiana Jones, Starfield isnt out yet and tes6 could be half a decade into future, who knows.
 
Topher

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johnjohn said:
Isn't it both? All Xbox first party games will be on Game Pass, so every platform that has Game Pass will have access to every Xbox first party game. Otherwise, it will be a case by case basis to see what Xbox first party games are put on other platforms.
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Only caveat Phil Spencer made for future games is cases where there "might be contractual or legacy" things. Otherwise, Bethesda games will be on "platforms where Game Pass exist".

adamsapple said:
Availability of game pass is one case ;)
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Spencer said buying Bethesda for Game Pass is "why we are doing this". "It is the root of this partnership."

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Seems pretty obvious that the words "case by case" were only ever used before the transaction was completed. If someone can provide quotes post-acquisition where this was said, I'd be interested in reading them.
 
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nightmare-slain

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well duh.

they didn't buy bethesda to keep giving games to Playstation.

same is true for Activision/Blizzard. eventually all those will be PC/Xbox exclusive.
 
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Topher said:
Only caveat Phil Spencer made for future games is cases where there "might be contractual or legacy" things. Otherwise, Bethesda games will be on "platforms where Game Pass exist".



Spencer said buying Bethesda for Game Pass is "why we are doing this". "It is the root of this partnership."

Timestamped.



Seems pretty obvious that the words "case by case" were only ever used before the transaction was completed. If someone can provide quotes post-acquisition where this was said, I'd be interested in reading them.
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I can see a case where the next MMO from Zenimax Online will be multiplatform, but pretty much every single player game is going to be exclusive.
 
Topher

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johnjohn said:
I can see a case where the next MMO from Zenimax Online will be multiplatform, but pretty much every single player game is going to be exclusive.
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Pretty much how I see it as well. Although Indiana Jones might have had contractual agreements requiring multiplatform. We will see.
 
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mckmas8808

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Thebonehead said:
It's not Elder Scrolls VI - They obviously didn't read the filing very well.

From my post on the other thread....

Decisions regarding mid-sized games are not evidence of Microsoft’s incentives as they relate to Call of Duty: The games that the Phase 1 Decision cites as evidence of prior conduct are fundamentally different to Minecraft or Call of Duty and cannot be used as evidence of Microsoft’s “broad incentives” as they relate to Call of Duty. 214 • Titles such as Elder Scrolls VI (which is not expected to be released before [] with the last instalment in the series being released in 2011), as well as other future titles, will not involve Microsoft forgoing ca. USD [] per annum of revenue from PlayStation customers or disenfranchising ca. [] million MAU on PlayStation
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WOW!!! This is big news.
 
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remember_spinal said:
FTC/CMA aren’t dumb, they knew Microsofts plans for Activision/Blizzard thanks to Zenimax.

Everyone trying to act as if it was so obvious some activision games would stay multiplatform are lying to themselves.
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The FTC couldn't care less about what games are multiplatform or not, they were going to block the deal no matter what. The CMA hasn't done anything yet.
 
TheGodfather07

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Surely one of them is elder scrolls right? Would be a brain dead move to not make such a big ip exclusive and gain all the benefits. Fallout too.
 
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Danknugz said:
"This was followed by a civil suit from a group of ten “videogamers”, also arguing that the deal would be harmful to the gaming market."

imagine taking video games this seriously living your life through them so much that it drives you to actually consider something like this.
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Hilarious. Folks whinge constantly about the passivity of "gamers" in relation to anti-corporate behavior, particularly being vocal about all the sheeple playing mobile games and pre-ordering, and here you have ten of those gamers, who said "Yeah, to hell with being passive participants, we want to make ourselves heard as well" and the best they can get is "Lulz. . .gam3rz!"
 
twilo99

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For some reason when they include PC in their "exclusives" it makes me slightly less annoyed that when its console only. It still sucks, and exclusives shouldn't exist, but at least they are offering it to more people than just console owners.
 
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MScarpa

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Danknugz said:
"This was followed by a civil suit from a group of ten “videogamers”, also arguing that the deal would be harmful to the gaming market."

imagine taking video games this seriously living your life through them so much that it drives you to actually consider something like this.
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Wouldn't surprise me if a few of those guys post here on GAF. People here take these games WAY to seriously.
 
Skifi28

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Microsoft is the smallest trillion dollar player in the gaming industry barely managing to survive. Evil Sony is making exclusion deals while Microsoft are the good guys expanding the industry and giving gamers even more choices. This month has had some very interesting statements that totally don't contradict each other. The deal should go through so I don't have to roll my eyes every time I read this crap.
 
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remember_spinal

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Kinda hard to feel empathy with xbox fans missing final fantasy games when xbox very publicly took a major 3rd party rpg publishers off the market. Games which sold far better on playstation than Final Fantasy ever sold on Xbox.

People expect Sony to sit around and just lose more big 3rd party games? Xbox has pretty much created micro-monopolies of genres on its console with first person shooters and now WRPGs.

If anything this should give credence to sony if the should ever want to purchase a dev like CDPR or make more exclusivity deals
 
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sainraja said:
Nah, not necessarily. Disney didn't force Sony to put Spiderman on all platforms (I understand the situation there is a little different and it might have been part of some negotiation (unverified)).
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If they could have, they probably would have. The Sony/Spider-Man contract is a holdover from before Marvel was bought out by Disney. Back then, Marvel was on the verge of bankruptcy several times in the 80s and 90s and was practically giving away their licenses and they gave the licensees ridiculously good arrangements that basically let them keep the character rights potentially for eternity. So as long as Sony sticks with their end of the contracts, Disney probably has little to no say in the matter. Remember how hard it was to get Spider-Man in that cross-platform Avengers game?
 
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