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Microsoft seemingly releasing everything in Spring on PlayStation; store saturation?

RickMasters

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How do you know they were not happy with those numbers?

And no "oh they wouldn't put on pc if they were" isn't proof.


If they were happy with number of games they sold on PS, they would NEVER be on PC. At some point this is gonna become a talking point on the gaf you know? Just wait… we still a few years a way from that but I’m sure I’ll still be a member, bantering with all y’all when that is an serious issue for them…… here’s a fact about Sony…. They went from being a company that was a legit tech leader with TVs audio etc, to just being the PlayStation company.
 
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jm89

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If they were gaply withbthwre number tiger games would NEVER be on PC. At some point this is gonna become a talking point on the gaf you know? Just wait…
Not really they can be happy with those numbers on ps5 and still want extra revenue from pc.
 
If they were happy with number of games they sold on PS, they would NEVER be on PC. At some point this is gonna become a talking point on the gaf you know? Just wait… we still a few years a way from that but I’m sure I’ll still be a member, bantering with all y’all when that is an serious issue for them…… here’s a fact about Sony…. They went from being a company that was a legit tech leader with TVs audio etc, to just being the PlayStation company.

The little PlayStation company that forced Microsoft to go third party.

You’re exhuding bitterness right now and embarrassing yourself.
 
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Kerotan

Member
Cool…. I know I’d rather be getting 70% in the situation that’s about to go down Than The 30…. Plus money of subs on my own platform. Then another 70 off Nintendo.
What situation is about to go down. MS Sony always got 30% of COD. Microsoft spent 70BN to extend that by 40%. Crazy but they've seen the light.
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
them…… here’s a fact about Sony…. They went from being a company that was a legit tech leader with TVs audio etc, to just being the PlayStation company.

That's not a fact at all. Lol. They're still a tech company. I have the XM5s on my head right now.
 

RickMasters

Member
The little PlayStation company that forced Microsoft to go third party.

You’re exhuding bitterness right now and embarrassing yourself.
‘Embarrass’ my self amongst a bunch of over opinionated ‘gamers’….. maaaan…. Get over yourself. Your a random name on the internet….. I’m good over here bruh! 😂😂😂😂
 
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Halo makes more sense going into summer. Spacing it out and doing some marketing would be better, but they are probably looking at PS on PC.

The PC ports of PS games really only got talked about for the first few big games. Now they release and no one notices, like the Spidy 2 flop.
 

Rossco EZ

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IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
And those are pias poor compared to my Adam SP5s….. but go on….. last Sony product I bought was a C800. You know what one of those is?

A microphone.

I'm not sure we can compare those headphones. They're for different uses. The average consumer isn't buying SP5s to listen to music in the gym.

For general consumer headphones, the XM5 range is one of the best around. The reviews speak for themselves.

Point is, Sony are not just a PlayStation company.
 
Halo makes more sense going into summer. Spacing it out and doing some marketing would be better, but they are probably looking at PS on PC.

The PC ports of PS games really only got talked about for the first few big games. Now they release and no one notices, like the Spidy 2 flop.
Thats because it was always just a way for PC players to use a trump card over the console market leader, when in reality they never did care about Sony exclusives. They just didnt like the fact that Playstation had games they could never play unless them emulated them. The got tired of feeling like the red headed step child.

Spiderman 2 is poor example to use since it was pretty much leaked on PC months ago. A better example is Returnal. Its the most "Pc like" game that Sony has ported to PC and it still flopped. It was never about playing Playstation exclusives, it was only about taking exclusives away from the Playstation console boost their claim of "pC mAsTer rAce"...
 
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RickMasters

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A microphone.

I'm not sure we can compare those headphones. They're for different uses. The average consumer isn't buying SP5s to listen to music in the gym.

For general consumer headphones, the XM5 range is one of the best around. The reviews speak for themselves.

Point is, Sony are not just a PlayStation company.


They went from being a dominant player in the trinitron days to play third fiddle behind Samsung and LG in TV…..They lost the hifi market to the iPhone. Nobody bus blue ray or DVD players anymore…..and I can tell youALL about the music biz but I might get myself in trouble……I used to mess with all types of Sony audio gear from pro recording to home audio to car audio….. they have been vested by others in all those areas









They went from being a tech giant to the PlayStation company. There future will be as an entertainment company…. Games and film. You soon see.
 

Astray

Member
It's kinda pointless to talk about MS's strategy here because there is none.

The PS5/Switch 2 ports were an off-the-cuff executive decision made due to the failure of Plan A (Going with Gamepass as the differentiator in the Series console launch) and Plan B (buying up publishers to force consumers to switch platforms).

It's a hastily-put-together plan C, so of course the details won't make sense in the larger view.

Just look at Ninja Gaiden 2 Black and 4.. These are projects that don't make any sense to greenlight without excluding PS/Switch, and yet they're already announced/released on 1 of the 2 platforms already.
 

RickMasters

Member
Thats because it was always just a way for PC players to use a trump card over the console market leader, when in reality they never did care about Sony exclusives. They just didnt like the fact that Playstation had games they could never play unless them emulated them. The got tired of feeling like the red headed step child.

Spiderman 2 is poor example to use since it was pretty much leaked on PC months ago. A better example is Returnal. Its the most "Pc like" game that Sony has ported to PC and it still flopped. It was never about playing Playstation exclusives, it was only about taking exclusives away from the Playstation console boost their claim of "pC mAsTer rAce"...
I dunno man…… helldivers 2 still sits pretty high up on the steam chart. Might be a better example than retrumal. I have spiderman, btw. That game needs some serious patching. I don’t blame people for giving it bad reviews. Didnt Sony buy a whole team just to pier their PC games? PC gamers like single player games too. Console games are fine on PC with a control pad…… just usually less co first le after a h while because there is no substitute for a couch.


I also liked horizon and god of war on PC. Games work on what Weber you can run them on. The lines between PC game and console game for blurred a long time ago.
 
It's kinda pointless to talk about MS's strategy here because there is none.

The PS5/Switch 2 ports were an off-the-cuff executive decision made due to the failure of Plan A (Going with Gamepass as the differentiator in the Series console launch) and Plan B (buying up publishers to force consumers to switch platforms).

It's a hastily-put-together plan C, so of course the details won't make sense in the larger view.

Just look at Ninja Gaiden 2 Black and 4.. These are projects that don't make any sense to greenlight without excluding PS/Switch, and yet they're already announced/released on 1 of the 2 platforms already.

Indeed, the deal to fund and publish Ninja Gaiden as an Xbox exclusive would have been made years ago.

Then their plans went tits up, now you have Microsoft publishing a Japanese game on PlayStation.
 
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MonkD

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Not really they can be happy with those numbers on ps5 and still want extra revenue from pc.
This. And with the delayed PC releases they could be hoping to gain new fans and incentives those new customers to buy a Playstation in order to play the sequels earlier.

But with the Insomniac leaks we know that their games have insane budgets at this point. But I'm not sure how much the Marvel license was tied to that.
 

Kerotan

Member
It's kinda pointless to talk about MS's strategy here because there is none.

The PS5/Switch 2 ports were an off-the-cuff executive decision made due to the failure of Plan A (Going with Gamepass as the differentiator in the Series console launch) and Plan B (buying up publishers to force consumers to switch platforms).

It's a hastily-put-together plan C, so of course the details won't make sense in the larger view.

Just look at Ninja Gaiden 2 Black and 4.. These are projects that don't make any sense to greenlight without excluding PS/Switch, and yet they're already announced/released on 1 of the 2 platforms already.
There could be a strategy. Obviously increase revenue massively. Justify the big budgets for much of their future titles. Increase metrics to keep shareholders off their backs.

But long term I think the strategy is to get enough games to launch an EA Play style sub.
 

PaintTinJr

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I’m a bit puzzled by this. We’ve never seen such a high number of major IPs flooding the market in such a short time. What’s especially unusual is that Microsoft’s goal—to expand their audience and maximise revenue—could actually backfire with this approach.

Most players won’t buy Age of Empires, Halo, Indiana Jones, Doom, and Forza all at once; there’s simply not enough time to play them, so they won’t pay full price upfront. On top of that, releasing everything so close together could split the PlayStation userbase, making it harder for these games to build a strong community.

How can any of this work if all these games are launching at the same time?
Have you considered that the main audience is there own players that have gamepass on Xbox and are leaving Xbox console and moving to PS5?

Those are the customers that need all the same games available day1, and as there is no gamepass on PlayStation they might just buy a few at a time. It does sort of sound like 4D chess if that works out for them that way where they get loads of full price game sales on PlayStation from their cheap gamepassers of games they've already played and owned.
 

RickMasters

Member
And what? Previously the most played game was owned by Activision. Different Day different 3rd party publisher. Business As usual for Sony

Yeah…. And now that game is owned by MS. And at here comes a point where they lock out Sonys own charts…. On their own console…. While having their own to sell gamepass on….Business as usual eh?
 

Kerotan

Member
Yeah…. And now that game is owned by MS. And at here comes a point where they lock out Sonys own charts…. On their own console…. While having their own to sell gamepass on….Business as usual eh?
Yeah pretty much. Activision often topped the charts on playstation, Xbox and pc. Like any successful 3rd party publisher MS will now do likewise.
 

bitbydeath

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COD and minecraft already sit comfortably in the top ten. Forza, halo and gears will join it.


And let’s say they do go buy more studios…. Who’s gonna stop them? Not like they withhold content. No danger of a monou anymore. I just want it all on gamepass 🤷🏾‍♂️
Enjoy Gamepass while it lasts. (y)
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
They went from being a dominant player in the trinitron days to play third fiddle behind Samsung and LG in TV…..They lost the hifi market to the iPhone. Nobody bus blue ray or DVD players anymore…..and I can tell youALL about the music biz but I might get myself in trouble……I used to mess with all types of Sony audio gear from pro recording to home audio to car audio….. they have been vested by others in all those areas









They went from being a tech giant to the PlayStation company. There future will be as an entertainment company…. Games and film. You soon see.

True, they're tech business has taken a hit (I can see them leaving the phone market soon), but they still make great products that sell well.

They're headphones are big sellers. TVs maybe be not as high as Samsung and LG, but they're still successful.

Also camera. For some reason Cannon are the best selling camera, even though Sony and Nikkon beat them in tech. However, that doesn't mean Sony are bottom of the pile in sales. They're cameras do really well and are highly reviewed.

PlayStation is easily their most successful mainstream product, but they're not leaving all tech behind anytime soon.
 

PaintTinJr

Member
The delusion.

Those games aren't in the top 10 most played (or top selling) titles on xbox or PC. What makes you think they suddenly will be on Playstation?
I think there might be a different angle to this that people aren't considering.

Microsoft have wasted billions every year for two decades to realise the maxim "if you can't beat them join them" is good advice.

Having settled on that as their new solution - and nolonger in competition with PlayStation - we are more likely to see Microsoft using PlayStation as a stalking horse by pumping Sony hard - like they did with Intel in the Wintel era, and then Nvidia - because making Sony a trillion dollar company from a +$100b one secures Microsoft's OS control over a gaming future that then isn't going to get taken away by another goliath competitor. Pumping up Sony and riding their coat tails allows Microsoft to make Sony/PlayStation their Star Destroyer chasing down Nintendo as the Rebel Blockade runner(Corellian corvette) too giving them continued proxy control of the whole industry as they've always had through Windows in the PC era.
 

RickMasters

Member
The delusion.

Those games aren't in the top 10 most played (or top selling) titles on xbox or PC. What makes you think they suddenly will be on Playstation?

Petty Insult, aside I’ll humour you…..


The simple fact that they have never been on PlayStation. Also a huge portion of pS gamers are ex-360 and have not played these games since leaving. Also the simple fact that they are better rha. Any of Sonys own shooters or racers.


COD will still be number one regardless on either platform and I do t think I need to say who that benefits do I? Mega times they can probably lock up a few more spots in the top ten…..


But humour me, now…. What will you say when that happens?
 

RickMasters

Member
I think there might be a different angle to this that people aren't considering.

Microsoft have wasted billions every year for two decades to realise the maxim "if you can't beat them join them" is good advice.

Having settled on that as their new solution - and nolonger in competition with PlayStation - we are more likely to see Microsoft using PlayStation as a stalking horse by pumping Sony hard - like they did with Intel in the Wintel era, and then Nvidia - because making Sony a trillion dollar company from a +$100b one secures Microsoft's OS control over a gaming future that then isn't going to get taken away by another goliath competitor. Pumping up Sony and riding their coat tails allows Microsoft to make Sony/PlayStation their Star Destroyer chasing down Nintendo as the Rebel Blockade runner(Corellian corvette) too giving them continued proxy control of the whole industry as they've always had through Windows in the PC era.



That’s pretty far fetched. And I’m saying that as they guy who is getting his opinions ripped into in this thread. For a start sony would never want Xbox OS let alone gamepass.




I think we will have a better grasp of what they’re intent Is when we see the next Xbox. If rumours are true that it’s side-loads steam, that makes things interesting……
 

PaintTinJr

Member
True, they're tech business has taken a hit (I can see them leaving the phone market soon), but they still make great products that sell well.

They're headphones are big sellers. TVs maybe be not as high as Samsung and LG, but they're still successful.

Also camera. For some reason Cannon are the best selling camera, even though Sony and Nikkon beat them in tech. However, that doesn't mean Sony are bottom of the pile in sales. They're cameras do really well and are highly reviewed.

PlayStation is easily their most successful mainstream product, but they're not leaving all tech behind anytime soon.
They are never leaving the smartphone market, as their cutting edge tech needs a prototype to sell the features on to Apple and Samsung, which gives them +80% of the sensor market, and I say this as someone that should fear that reality, as I only buy Xperia flagship phones, and have done since my first mobile was a Sony Ericsson P900 smartphone.

If anything, Sony's hardware business has become lean and mean, and everything focuses on delivering a great product at a necessary high price to the niche market a product actually does have, rather than chasing technologically unsavvy mass market price sensitive customers for short term sales bumps, and instead play the long game of quality winning out, like it has started to with a few of their products lines in recent years, particularly headphones and buds and other audio products.
 
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PaintTinJr

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That’s pretty far fetched. And I’m saying that as they guy who is getting his opinions ripped into in this thread. For a start sony would never want Xbox OS let alone gamepass.




I think we will have a better grasp of what they’re intent Is when we see the next Xbox. If rumours are true that it’s side-loads steam, that makes things interesting……
I didn't say they would. Sony would give up nothing and it would just be Microsoft playing as the offensive line to their PlayStation quarter back to use an American football analogy, because as Sony/PlayStation grew Microsoft game revenues would continue to grow.
 

Astray

Member
There could be a strategy. Obviously increase revenue massively. Justify the big budgets for much of their future titles. Increase metrics to keep shareholders off their backs.

But long term I think the strategy is to get enough games to launch an EA Play style sub.
I think there might be a strategy now, but it will be 5-10 years before we see what that looks like.

Right now, the actions we're seeing are not strategic in nature (meaning they are clearly not pre-planned, they've been going off-book ever since the end of 2023).

The actions in the future (2026 and on)? Those will definitely be strategic because they now have time to reorient, plan and execute.

My guess is you will see less games like Ninja Gaiden and more like Sea of Thieves Forza Horizon etc. Basically the same strategy that got EA etc where they are.

I do agree with you that they're trying to build out an EA Play kind of sub service on PS and Switch. That's actually a winning play that will get them tons of subs without cannibalizing AAA game sales.
 

RickMasters

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I didn't say they would. Sony would give up nothing and it would just be Microsoft playing as the offensive line to their PlayStation quarter back to use an American football analogy, because as Sony/PlayStation grew Microsoft game revenues would continue to grow.

I just dont see it…. Especially while they are making their own hardware. And especially with a new steam box and their own next gen Xbox coming Which is always preferable for me because after all that’s where my backlog of 1300+ games resides.
 

GHG

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Petty Insult, aside I’ll humour you…..


The simple fact that they have never been on PlayStation. Also a huge portion of pS gamers are ex-360 and have not played these games since leaving. Also the simple fact that they are better rha. Any of Sonys own shooters or racers.


COD will still be number one regardless on either platform and I do t think I need to say who that benefits do I? Mega times they can probably lock up a few more spots in the top ten…..


But humour me, now…. What will you say when that happens?

There will be an initial burst during the release window as there is with any new release (see death stranding's release window on Xbox as an example), but after that period is over they will fall in to obscurity as they have done on every other platform they've released on.

I also wasn't referring to COD in my reply to you, thought that was clear enough in the fact that I was specific in what I quoted and highlighted.

Allow be to also break this nugget out and address it separately:

Also the simple fact that they are better rha. Any of Sonys own shooters or racers.


Halo and gears are available on PC, but yet far more people are playing Helldivers 2. Playstation also has all of the 3rd party GAAS shooters available on the platform that are popular everywhere, Halo and Gears will also be competing with those for time.

The fact that you suddenly think GT doesn't exist is laughable. You need to get over the fact that the current day stature of these titles is a contributory factor in why Xbox is where it is today.
 
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