Microsoft should've made the Oblivion Remaster an Xbox-only exclusive.
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Durin
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Remasters of old games are never going to drive system purchases that matter vs the loss of not porting to other platforms.
Also, exclusives provide no consumer benefit, and AAA production values are budgeting themselves out of exclusivity being viable. Even Nintendo's smaller costs inevitably fall to emulation, and the other 2 are already voluntarily porting.
Also, exclusives provide no consumer benefit, and AAA production values are budgeting themselves out of exclusivity being viable. Even Nintendo's smaller costs inevitably fall to emulation, and the other 2 are already voluntarily porting.
Killjoy-NL
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I was talking about the logic.They are dead on Playstation as well
Puscifer
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You'd grab only the most hardcore people still playing oblivion every few days, that's what? A few thousand at most?
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year Edition (2009) - Steam Charts
An ongoing analysis of Steam's player numbers, seeing what's been played the most.
It averages about a thousand daily players which is still kinda cool for an 18 year old game but the idea they'd suddenly convert "millions" is pretty out there.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I agree unironically. I like exclusives. It gives a given platform a unique identity instead of making every platform a generic box.
I don't particularly care about people being excluded. I don't like most people anyway.
I don't particularly care about people being excluded. I don't like most people anyway.
Ar¢tos
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Cardboard has real life ray tracing, makes real sound and has real feel to touch , so:
Cardboard >>>>>>> Graphics, Level design, sound, gameplay and haptics.
Nintendo wins!
Viruz
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Liopleurodon
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EDIT: Better not.
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Ritsumei2020
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If they put this on Switch 2, I'm going to set fire on my OneX I swear.
Grizzled Ghost
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Assuming they put out another console...
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
Which consumers lost?
Playstation and Nintendo gained games and for PC everything remains the same. PC even has cheaper GamePass afaik.
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pudel
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Hudo
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Playstation are steadily increasing prices and anti-consumer practices. As are Nintendo. That's a loss for consumers in my book. Microsoft blowing up their business with Xbox One and then going all in on their "Let's be the Netflix of gaming" bullshit is also a loss for consumers because I think that subscription-based models are inherently anti-consumer. And on the PC side of things, Nvidia are fucking up the hardware market as well.
Which consumer lost anything? Everybody gained imho.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I think its good that its every where. LEt everyone who wants to play it, play it. And its a lot more money to the studio to allow them to do more stuff like this.
Great release.
Great release.
Lucifers Beard
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Xbox are in the money making business and don't care about console exclusives anymore. They know better than most that dropping games on as many platforms as possible will generate maximum revenue.
Portugeezer
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Xbox is third party now.
Banjo64
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No one is buying games on Xbox and they have hit the ceiling with Game Pass subscribers. No one is buying an Xbox to play their exclusives.
That's why they are releasing games on platforms like Steam and PS, because they are getting a lot of sales and making a lot of money.
Pretty straight forward.
That's why they are releasing games on platforms like Steam and PS, because they are getting a lot of sales and making a lot of money.
Pretty straight forward.
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
That's economy for ya.
Pretty much everything in society is seeing price increases.
GamePass is dead-end, so hardly a loss for consumers.
As for Nvidia, that is a different matter than the console-wars.
pudel
Member
But you dont know if the same scenario wouldnt have happen anyway if xbox would be still in the "exclusive" race. You just pretending it wouldnt. And that big corpos acting as anti-consumer as possible is nothing new. Its also up to the consumers here to take a stand. I hate gamepass as a model with a passion, same as you....so I just dont interact with it at all. If consumers fall for it....its only their fault.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Weird comment. What would a "win" look like?
Tiago Rodrigues
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No one is buying an xbox for this. Ot anything else at this point.
Team Andromeda
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This thread is just a pathetic smoke screen for the Generation trolls to rant.
existensmaximum
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If Xbox had been thriving and actually had exclusives - absolutely. Now? It would be totally retarded. No one would have bought an Xbox solely for this game.
PeteBull
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I think many of us forgot already how it all happened in sept 2020 when MS bough Bethesda for 7,5m usd 
In hindsight they were spending 7,5b usd only to give all those bethesda games to pc and playstation anyways, its like getting exclusive with a girl, paying all her bills, take her on expensive vacations, hell even support her poor family every now and then when she asks for it and still agree she can fuck other dudes anytime she wants, basically a full on cuck experience
Does xbox sound anything but that when we have phil recently stating stuff like this:
Or this statement from few months ago about xbox games on playstation platform:
When ur CEO is a cuck u can forget about exclusives (yes, we know they prefer making money in the end, still, fuck that shit, i would feel betrayed af as an xbox series console owner, if xbox console owners knew ps5 owners will get access to microsoft games most of them would simply go with playstation5 instead)
In hindsight they were spending 7,5b usd only to give all those bethesda games to pc and playstation anyways, its like getting exclusive with a girl, paying all her bills, take her on expensive vacations, hell even support her poor family every now and then when she asks for it and still agree she can fuck other dudes anytime she wants, basically a full on cuck experience
Does xbox sound anything but that when we have phil recently stating stuff like this:
Or this statement from few months ago about xbox games on playstation platform:
When ur CEO is a cuck u can forget about exclusives (yes, we know they prefer making money in the end, still, fuck that shit, i would feel betrayed af as an xbox series console owner, if xbox console owners knew ps5 owners will get access to microsoft games most of them would simply go with playstation5 instead)
kruis
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Microsoft's plan was actually to buy all those studios and then have them create Xbox exclusive games for Gamepass. The issue was that Xbox management expected Gamepass subscriptions (and Xbox sales) to go through the roof which would make up for the loss of software sales on Playstation and the costs of having tens of thousands new, expensive game devs on their payroll-- but that never happened. So now MS owned many more (expensive) game studios than just a few years before but they were selling less software and Gamepass revenues hit a plateau. That's when MS management stepped in and forced huge changes.
Cyberpunkd
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This. That thing has sailed when Phil decided to saddle Microsoft with over 70 BILLION acquisition fee for Bethesda + ABK. SIngle console ecosystem cannot sustain this sort of capital expenditure. I don't know if Phil knew this all along or not, doesn't matter now.
Laptop1991
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The Oblivion Remaster would not have sold loads of Xbox's just on it's own, maybe a new Elder Scroll, but not a remaster, yes it's popular because it's a very well known game that has been remastered to a high degree and it's on game pass so anyone can just download and play the game without paying any extra,, as for the mod comment's, it's actually selling on Steam in good numbers not Xbox so cutting PC out makes no sense either and there are mods and will be more in the future,
The OP's tactic to sell more Xbox's wouldn't have worked with the Oblivion Remaster.
The OP's tactic to sell more Xbox's wouldn't have worked with the Oblivion Remaster.
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Cyberpunkd
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Basically this. It was a pure startup / VC play "go fast, go big, figure the profit part later" that was hilariously approved by one of the most conservative corporations out there (yes, Microsoft is conservative selling billions of equipment and software to big, old companies worldwide).
PharaoTutAnchAmun
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Take your lost, people disagree with you, it was not a smart remark, move on....
Putonahappyface
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Embearded
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I'd say the ship sailed even earlier, when Phil thought he could make MS the Netflix of gaming. That's the turning point for me, that brought Forza Horizon 5 in my PS wishlist.
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L*][*N*K
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No they are not, people are still buying PlayStation games. The issue is the Xbox brand it is just too dead, there is nothing they can do to revive it at this point. Regardless of what Xbox is going to drop it is always going to be over shadowed by whatever Sony is going to drop and Microsoft realized (albeit a bit too late) but they did.They are dead on Playstation as well
Ramiro_Rodriguez
Neo Member
So you don't want that someone play it for a year? Makes sense, because 2026 is the 25 anniversary.
Because the exclusive XSX games were such a success, like Starfield and were are the pr news for Indiania Jones, as it was a XSX exclusive?
PeteBull
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What as a fellow gaffer should u tell to ur xbox series gaf bros, who back 4-5years ago wondered which next gen console to pick tho? Would u tell all of them back in 2020 to 100% go for ps5 since its gonna play xbox games anwyays, and xbox series will have 0 exclusives tru its whole lifespan?
We know its good deal for microsoft, at least short term, but we arent microsoft, we are console owners, in this case xbox series console owners, dont u think they getting short end of the stick by trusting MS/Xbox this gen instead of going with sony's platform?
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Microsoft ain't in it to grab a chunk of console market anymore. It's a pointless battle . They wil make more money offering games on other platforms and they know this
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