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[Steve Holt]

After HiFi Rush and Redfall releases they want / need sales.

 

[SHAKEZ]

Xbox exclusives have died a long time ago, let it go.

 

[analog_future]

At least for a year or so. It doesn't have mod support anyway, and people would've bought the consoles in droves. Imo it's a lost opportunity for them.

EDIT: I see the memelicious responses coming in from fellow GAFers, but come on you can't deny it was an easy strategic move to grab a chunk of the console market.

Microsoft is no longer trying to grab chunks of the console market. That ship has sailed. They just want people to play their games and/or sign up for Game Pass.

 

[demigod]

At least for a year or so. It doesn't have mod support anyway, and people would've bought the consoles in droves. Imo it's a lost opportunity for them.

EDIT: I see the memelicious responses coming in from fellow GAFers, but come on you can't deny it was an easy strategic move to grab a chunk of the console market.

Another closet green rat coming out i see.

 

[Topher]

but come on you can't deny it was an easy strategic move to grab a chunk of the console market.

Yes, if that was part of Microsoft's strategy, but that just isn't the case any more.

 

[cash_longfellow]

Thinking that this releasing as an exclusive would actually move Xbox's, is a weekend Gaf thread

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Xbox should have kept Peter Moore and never did day 1 games on PC or other consoles.
It's been bleeding out since PC day 1, these console releases is just the nail in the coffin.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

At least for a year or so. It doesn't have mod support anyway, and people would've bought the consoles in droves. Imo it's a lost opportunity for them.

EDIT: I see the memelicious responses coming in from fellow GAFers, but come on you can't deny it was an easy strategic move to grab a chunk of the console market.

It's not about console sales anymore.

It's about the Minecraft movie breaking records at the box office.

 

[Js562]

Could have . It would've been a shock to the world if it was. Too late now but I'm pretty sure they got their moneys worth from it

 

[TintoConCasera]

Exclusives should die and the sooner the better. Why can't my consolebros play Half-Life Alyx? Why can't I play Bloodborne (officially) on my PC?

Shit sucks and it's dumb, specially considering how expensive games are to make nowadays. There more people that play them, the better for everyone.

 

[Topher]

Another closet green rat coming out i see.

Nah.... San Dan Glokta is a good poster. We have had discussions before and I never got the sense he was a massive fan of any single platform.

And I can't help but think "what if" when it comes to Xbox console and all the games Microsoft is publishing. Could have some true Xbox exclusives made a difference for the console? I'd say probably, yeah.

 

[Deerock71]

I don't know if you've heard, but Xbox ain't doing so good.

 

[A2una1]

Microsoft is no longer trying to grab chunks of the console market. That ship has sailed. They just want people to play their games and/or sign up for Game Pass.

I would rather say it sank

 

[Evil Calvin]

Nah! Gamepass on Xbox and $70 on PS5!

 

[kremit]

Unpopular opinion but I think exclusives are still good to have on a console. I prefer a console having good exclusives over being merely PC's you can use on a TV. Its a nice feeling when you are playing a game on a piece of hardware which cannot be replicated elsewhere (outside of emulators). Sometimes not having to play against a well-oiled PC is nice.

I don't think Xbox are interested in doing that anymore though, unfortunately.

 

[CJ_75]

Everything is a Xbox so it IS an Xbox exclusive.

 

[mayham2199]

Nah! Gamepass on Xbox and $70 on PS5!

It's $50 on PS5.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

It's too late to salvage this gen, but they could pursue this approach at the start of the next gen.

Not possible. You can't really go third party and return IMO. Once you've convinced people there's no point in your platform you aren't going to get people to come back outside of the hardest of hardcore platform people.

I agree unironically. I like exclusives. It gives a given platform a unique identity instead of making every platform a generic box.

I don't particularly care about people being excluded. I don't like most people anyway.

I think most people will disagree with you but I agree.

I've gone on record multiple times that I miss each platform having a reason to own it. Back when I was a little kid I was playing wildly different games on PS1 and PC and it felt cool and exotic. Then when I had a PS2/Xbox and then PS3/360 I was playing and experiencing different thing on top of PC being different (7th gen I fell out of pc entirely but returned a couple years into 8th gen).

Every platform was unique and had reasons to own them all the way until Play Anywhere started and there was less and less reasons to own a Xbox console.

Now every platform is basically the same outside of Nintendo including PC. Despite what a lot of people around here will say the vast majority of games people actually play on pc are available anywhere.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

It's $50 on PS5.

He's probably saying they should have made it full price on PS to entice people to use GP.

 

[Branded]

Gamefaqs 2006, how I've missed you...

 

[tr1p1ex]

More like MSFT should take it off GP so they can make some $$$$.

 

[Seomel]

How would they make any money if it was exclusive? Xbox gamers mostly prefer just downloading straight from gamepass

 

[tr1p1ex]

I think Starfield, among others, has already proven that people won't buy into the Xbox ecosystem to play a game. Making Oblivion exclusive would simply have reduced its overall sales. Plus, as others have said, MS is moving away from hardware to focus on increasing software sales.

IF STarfield was great, was only on Xbox and not also on pc then they would have moved some hardware.

 

[Zacfoldor]

As a Sony fan and a Nintendo fan and xsx owner I can say with absolute certainty.

YES They should have, lol.

Why didn't they?

Now let me boot this shit up on my pro, which is of course a better version than is available on XSX. Honestly, Xbox fans, let me just be 100% honest. You FINALLY had the games after all those years of absolutely fucking nothing(crackdown, yuck) and when you can finally not only compete but checkmate Sony, instead you give away your exclusives? 1. That was dumb. 2. We'll take it!

 

[Bungie]

Making a thread thinking of ways for Xbox to sell consoles when it benefits you in no way is genius! I'm going to make the next one saying Fallout 3 Remaster MUST BE EXCLUSIVE!

 

[Bogroll]

No. Just accept it happens now. At least games Xbox has option of GP.

 

[Fbh]

Yeah maybe if they had launched the console with it.
At this point though it wouldn't have made a meaningful difference for Xbox sales, and ultimately MS would just be making less money from it by not putting it on Ps5.

 

[cireza]

It's over. Selling consoles is not part of their main strategy anymore. They will only sell consoles to people who do not have another device to play.

 

[LazyParrot]

How many Xbox consoles did Starfield sell? It can't have been that many. Somehow I doubt this game would do any better in that regard.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Only Nintendo will have real exclusives now. They are also the only company capable of selling 100M+ consoles entirely on the strength of their first party.

 

[Bungie]

As a Sony fan and a Nintendo fan and xsx owner I can say with absolute certainty.

YES They should have, lol.

Why didn't they?

Now let me boot this shit up on my pro, which is of course a better version than is available on XSX. Honestly, Xbox fans, let me just be 100% honest. You FINALLY had the games after all those years of absolutely fucking nothing(crackdown, yuck) and when you can finally not only compete but checkmate Sony, instead you give away your exclusives? 1. That was dumb. 2. We'll take it!

As a Xbox fan, it's not that deep & checkmating Sony is some delusional console wars talk. Most are just out here enjoying the benefits of it on gamepass & the game. Exclusives aren't beneficial towards Xbox, growing Xboxs portfolio for gamepass is & they did just that with this game.

"We'll take it!" You take it & Xbox/Microsoft takes your money.

 

[Katatonic]

 

[Team Andromeda]

For Sega the decision to go third party was pretty early on in the generation.

Of course they wouldn't have been working on a next gen system in Jan 2001 when the decision was made.

As for which platforms received game, the 6th generation consisted of unique hardware resulting in more difficult ports where as porting from Xbox Series to PS5 is a doddle.

SEGA corp was losing over $200 million a year, it didn't go multi-platform for a lot of its games and SEGA almost completely ignored the PC userbase after dropping its console hardware
So spare us the wind up crap, its not even comparable and that's to overlook you can still be in the hardware game and make games for rival systems its something SONY did for the PS1 and Nintendo before the Switch if one wants to be clever *rollseyes*

Yeah, and every single series they published as Xbox exclusive literally died because of it. Sad times.

They should've made everything multiplatform from the get go.

It wasn't like SEGA's PS2 games were massive sellers, including SEGA's PS2 exclusives like Blood Will Tell, Astobot Like I said before, it was pretty sad that one of SEGA best best-selling games when it went 3rd part,y was a port of DC Sonic Adv 2 and to ignore the PC userbase after looking to use it when SEGA was in the Hardware game was madness and irony at its peak.. but that's SEGA for you.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Yes, game development costs peanuts and giving the game for almost nothing on gamepass is more than enough to have huge profit.

What a fabulous idea you had!

I keep reading this but if a gamepass sub has such little value to MS that a retail sale of a $50.00 game where you give 30% of that to your biggest competitor for doing nothing is somehow a much better alternative, then is gamepass even worth it to begin with?

At this point it seems that gamepass isn't self sufficient and never will be. Even in these months when gamepass is seeing banger after banger, I bet the numbers aren't' even going up that much.

I'm calling it, 4-23-25, MS should give up on gamepass and move to a traditional sales model. With gamepass around their neck like an albatross, MS will never make the money they want in gaming until it is dead and buried.

The problem is that there is a ceiling for the type of gamer that needs gamepass. Gamepass isn't for everyone and a streaming service that is not for everyone cannot succeed at the level MS wants it to.

They will need something besides gamepass.

 

[demigod]

Playstation are steadily increasing prices and anti-consumer practices. As are Nintendo. That's a loss for consumers in my book. Microsoft blowing up their business with Xbox One and then going all in on their "Let's be the Netflix of gaming" bullshit is also a loss for consumers because I think that subscription-based models are inherently anti-consumer. And on the PC side of things, Nvidia are fucking up the hardware market as well.

Stop acting like only Playstation and Nintendo raises prices, Microsoft does it as well.

 

[damidu]

Microsoft should've made the Oblivion Remaster not a stuttering mess

 

[demigod]

Elder scrolls 6 needs to be pc and xbox exclusive

Bro got jokes

 

[Gambit2483]

Microsoft isnt here to push consoles anymore.

In fact, all this week Gamestop is (potentially) paying you MORE for you to turn in your Xbox than what you paid for it.

One could actually buy a used Xbox online and make a profit selling it to Gamestop the next day. That's wild.

 

[rapid32.5]

They are in for the money not the console sales. But yeah, it makes more sense if you are in the lead with console sales.

 

[Bitstream]

MS lost the console race a while ago. IF there's a game that might still move consoles, it certainly isn't this one.

 

[QLQ]

People aren't buying Xbox or subbing to Game Pass for COD or Diablo or even Doom DA, and OP thinks that crap would somehow make a difference other than squandering a lot of money.

 

[recursive]

The entire existence of Nintendo is predicated on their exclusives. It's not delusional to say this.

True but they also aren't shitty bethesda games.

 

[Quantum253]

Didnt Xbox (console space) get their Oblivion exclusive in Avowed?

 

[ExtendEmbraceExtinguish]

No. The goal is to kill any competition in this genre and protect their ip value; remember two worlds and its sequel were successful.
Fromsoft/kingdom2 devs/cdproject can all tackle this genre.
For hardware the goal is to fuse Xbox into windows. Folks this is basic business; why spend billions every gen if you can get oem to do the lifting.

 

[UltimaKilo]

Microsoft's plan was actually to buy all those studios and then have them create Xbox exclusive games for Gamepass. The issue was that Xbox management expected Gamepass subscriptions (and Xbox sales) to go through the roof which would make up for the loss of software sales on Playstation and the costs of having tens of thousands new, expensive game devs on their payroll-- but that never happened. So now MS owned many more (expensive) game studios than just a few years before but they were selling less software and Gamepass revenues hit a plateau. That's when MS management stepped in and forced huge changes.

Those who are MS investors were not happy at the losses in this division and Microsoft's history is that if a product line is not profitable, they ditch it. The new strategy is a good one and revenue has increased, but for the life of me, I cannot understand why management has left the same leadership at Microsoft that failed at the last model.

So To OP's post: no, exclusives are stupid unless it's a timed exclusive because the team didn't have the bandwidth to release on all platforms simultaneously.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

What for? It wouldn't have moved the consoles anyway.

 

[Azelover]

I think Xbox is sick and tired of losing money..

 

[Buggy Loop]

you can't deny it was an easy strategic move to grab a chunk of the console market.

When will peoples realize these are all a facade? The collapse of this tribalism - fake walled garden X86 locked down OS PC cannot happen soon enough. Nintendo too although they'll probably still be doing their own thing while civilization ends.

Meanwhile, Bethesda :

 

[HYDE]

At least for a year or so. It doesn't have mod support anyway, and people would've bought the consoles in droves. Imo it's a lost opportunity for them.

EDIT: I see the memelicious responses coming in from fellow GAFers, but come on you can't deny it was an easy strategic move to grab a chunk of the console market.

Lol…they actually want to sell copies dude.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Microsoft's strategy changed a long time ago. If anything, we've been heading towards a future that isn't so exclusive heavy. It's timed exclusive if anything.

Well, except for Nintendo, they're still exclusive heavy, lol.