Check their stats, I think there is a "hunter" tendency or such that says they will venture out to find you. I'm not entirely sure, though, since I never paid attention to that.
Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor |OT| One Title to rule them all
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Check their stats, I think there is a "hunter" tendency or such that says they will venture out to find you. I'm not entirely sure, though, since I never paid attention to that.
If you dominate them (grab them and press triangle) after branding them, you can order them to do stuff, like work to become a bodyguard for one of the war chiefs. If you choose this, you help them through a power struggle, and then they can try to assassinate the war chief, and if you help them win, they'll become the new chief, putting many more orcs under your control.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I gotta disagree with people who think Branding should've been introduced earlier. I like how it doesn't come until halfway through the main missions because it completely changes how you approach combat. I've gone from being a crazed bringer of death in the first half to a slightly less crazed commander with some weird almost parental protective instincts kicking in. I've begun to split the army screen into My Homies vs. Sauron's Scum and all the scum have received death threats cause we coming. Plus I have lots of random foot soldiers dotted around the map that I'm shocked the game actually keeps in memory. They keep getting mashed by Graugs and eaten by Caragors though. :/
Sanctuary
Member
After reading your first post, I thought the game was actually boring you because the combat was too repetitive and easy for you. Now it just appears that you're actually pretty bad at the game, unless this is just a mock post.
Another orc will try to raise the alarm if you're too slow at finishing off the 2-8 remaining orcs that are left after you killed off the first runner, but if you took out or branded a handful of orcs in the area you're going to fight an elite, you shouldn't be having swarms and swarms of enemies constantly coming.
The hardest part I've found was when having to do missions within one of the earlier Strongholds. It's pretty big, and there's a ton of enemies setup in such a way that it's easy for you to lose track of who might be running off. It's not impossible though with even a little planning. You should also be using the campfires, wasp-thing nests and caragor meat to kill off a bunch of enemies before they are even aware of you.
The game is slightly overrated--or at least the Nemesis system definitely is--but not for the reasons you've given. Branding is also like the 8th or so main mission,
Net_Wrecker
Member
I agree. If you get bogged down in the small details you can to pick it apart, but the art style, atmospheric effects, and world lighting on the whole look great IMO.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Very nice screens! Game can be a real looker sometimes.
Sanctuary
Member
I could still never get over the "boxy" look of all of the geometry though. So much of the game looks really unnatural as though someone chisled out the landscape.
Just a nice, innocent grog break....
and this happens in an ambush
Orcs sure are a finicky bunch when it comes to food.
Just throwing this one in here because I thought it was a cool angle:
Last thought, they need to think about making a game like this set in the Warhammer universe.
and this happens in an ambush
Orcs sure are a finicky bunch when it comes to food.
Just throwing this one in here because I thought it was a cool angle:
Last thought, they need to think about making a game like this set in the Warhammer universe.
Just a nice, innocent grog break....
and this happens in an ambush
Orcs sure are a finicky bunch when it comes to food.
Just throwing this one in here because I thought it was a cool angle:
uguu~~
Net_Wrecker
Member
Thx
Wasn't expecting to like how the game looks so much. Even with all the hours of streaming they did pre-release, they never really slowed down to show off the world. I've love to see what the team can do tackling a more natural and dense lived in environment in MIddle-earth with houses, inns, castles, etc.
mickcenary
Member
Ooh. Thanks, dude. Will experiment later.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
That bugs me a bit, too, but sometimes when I stop and take it all in... The environmental effects, lighting, mountain backdrop, etc., all come together to form some pretty gorgeous vistas.
Tizoc
Member
So here's a funny-ish thing that happened (late game spoilers)
I order one of my Branded warchiefs to attack an unbranded one.
This unbranded has a captain whose weakness include being 1 hit KO-ed if stealth attacked.
I stealth brand him, then his warchief gets killed. The captain I branded becomes the new warchief!
This turned out easier than I expected lol
This unbranded has a captain whose weakness include being 1 hit KO-ed if stealth attacked.
I stealth brand him, then his warchief gets killed. The captain I branded becomes the new warchief!
This turned out easier than I expected lol
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
This isn't really a story spoiler, but I'll tag it anyway just in case people don't want to know when they're near the end:
This game has the most abrupt start, and ending to any game I've ever played, except maybe Pac-Man.
You get branding and commanding Captains to kill Warchiefs entirely too late in the game. it's like more than half way over by the time you get full control over the nemesis system.
This game has the most abrupt start, and ending to any game I've ever played, except maybe Pac-Man.
neogaffer1
Banned
Similar thing happened to me.
They generally spawn together, so initiate early on. You can always turn back to the group of branded body guards, the warchief should follow you.
Script_Flipper
Member
Anyone try the trials yet? Think it's really weird they're only making it available for a limited time. Not what I thought they meant when they said they'd unlock over time.
Can't try it myself as I don't have the game box yet (ordered from Gamefly)
Edit: Here's a link to their post over on WB forums
Can't try it myself as I don't have the game box yet (ordered from Gamefly)
Edit: Here's a link to their post over on WB forums
The location they are trying to depict isn't doing the visuals any favors either, Mordor won't get as many tourists as a tropical island or even Shire for that matter.
For those that claim it's too hard, just learn exactly how much attention you can handle and don't be stubborn, sneak out to replenish health/focus and come back, don't try to take everyone out in one bite. It's easy to lure out enemies out of strongholds where they have archer coverage and others supporting them. The difficulty peaks before the end but nothing that can't be handled.
Early I invited too much attention, I ended up going in circles around a building and using stealth to thin the herd and then killing the captains.
For those that claim it's too hard, just learn exactly how much attention you can handle and don't be stubborn, sneak out to replenish health/focus and come back, don't try to take everyone out in one bite. It's easy to lure out enemies out of strongholds where they have archer coverage and others supporting them. The difficulty peaks before the end but nothing that can't be handled.
Early I invited too much attention, I ended up going in circles around a building and using stealth to thin the herd and then killing the captains.
robotzombie
Member
so...i should buy this game, shouldnt i
I mean its as good as people keep suggesting it is right? It wasn't really on my radar at all but the more ive seen and heard of it, the more i like.
this month is brutal for games however...
I mean its as good as people keep suggesting it is right? It wasn't really on my radar at all but the more ive seen and heard of it, the more i like.
this month is brutal for games however...
NearRivers
Member
Agreed. While I enjoyed every minute of it, it feels like they ran out of time refining and developing some of the ideas. E.g. so few story missions, clunky traversal,
lacklustre final bossfight
Edit: I wouldn't be surprised if there was originally supposed to be a
third area
neogaffer1
Banned
It's basically an Assassin's Creed (that doesn't feel like it's based off a cookie-cutter design like nearly every Ubisoft open world game) with Arkham combat that gets brutally difficult at times. It's really fun and it's a breath of fresh air if you're sick of the yearly franchises like I am.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Yes indeed. Saruman himself had forged a Ring of Power, although it lacked the finesse of Celebrimbor and Sauron's attempts due to his lack of knowledge, at least compared to the aforementioned ringmakers.
FairXchange
Member
Really glad people are enjoying this game. I've genuinely been having so much fun with it as well. I was always interested from the second they announced the nemesis system, hats off to the devs.
SlowRevolution
Member
I was starting to get a little bored (probably because I've been doing so much side stuff), but this branding stuff is pretty cool. Second area is a little nicer looking the first, too. Still kind of a lackluster open world, but at least it's not so brown. I haven't really been able to play for more than a couple hours at a time before starting to lose interest, but for those chunks of time it's still really fun.
The potential for a sequel with this is huge.
The potential for a sequel with this is huge.
Str0ngStyle
Member
Dear Skak Hot-Tongs,
Why wont you stay dead?!?! How fucked up must I make you before you just die?!?!
Seriously though, I am absolutely loving this game and it is a strong contender for my GOTY and I may buy it again on Steam Sale 1st chance I get. I'm not even half way through the game yet and I can't wait for a sequel.
Why wont you stay dead?!?! How fucked up must I make you before you just die?!?!
Seriously though, I am absolutely loving this game and it is a strong contender for my GOTY and I may buy it again on Steam Sale 1st chance I get. I'm not even half way through the game yet and I can't wait for a sequel.
Anyone else exploiting the uruks' inability to look up?
Also, when I get in trouble during a fight I'll climb a nearby ledge and wait for my health to regenerate. Apparently they can't follow me unless there's a ladder nearby, that's how I took out the first war chief. I feel dirty, but it got the job done.
Also, when I get in trouble during a fight I'll climb a nearby ledge and wait for my health to regenerate. Apparently they can't follow me unless there's a ladder nearby, that's how I took out the first war chief. I feel dirty, but it got the job done.
They game can certainly look great at times but the main issue is that the environmental design is lacking for the vast majority of Mordor.
You get them all with the Season Pass, so I assume they'll be separate DLC down the line.
I agree. The architecture is for the most part, super rudimentary, even by last gen standards. They have a few really well done buildings, monuments and stuff I've come across, but the majority is very copy/paste and lacking in unique design. Unlike AC, where I get bored with the moment to moment gameplay shortly and the environments can carry me through, this game's combat and nemesis system easily pull it through its shortcomings. I have to force myself not to go after one more captain, challenge, artifact...whatever. I haven't been this determined to clear a map of objectives in a game since, well, I can't even remember.
Byron Bluth
Banned
How far in does the new area open up?
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Edmond Dantès;132930869 said:
A lot of stuff in Tolkein is described in myth like fashion, like the crafting of the rings. Somehow they get imbued with some sort of magic, but how and what they do is never explained except The One Ring.
Even in the game it's just him pounding on the anvil. They sure didn't have a problem putting Celebrimbor as the co-creator of The One Ring, why not show how it is imbued with power and not just a well-crafted gold band.
I also never understood how the 3 elf rings were controlled by The One if Sauron never touched them. How can he just have power over something just because it's similar? Why not make a magic pair of pants and just rule over everyone who also wore pants?
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
I was like 8 hours in. Maybe 9.
I had done a few of the side quests and messed around in that time, I'm not sure if that was a typical length.
Script_Flipper
Member
Yeah now that I know they're simply allowing you to play them for free for a limited time that would make the most sense.
Byron Bluth
Banned
Is it after a specific story mission?
neogaffer1
Banned
Yes.
SolidChamp
Banned
So is it recommended that you allow a captain/orc to kill you to enrich the nemesis system a bit?
I've come close to death a few times, almost got dealt a killing blow...but I haven't died once yet.
I've come close to death a few times, almost got dealt a killing blow...but I haven't died once yet.
Sanctuary
Member
If you do nothing but the main story missions, about three hours. If you're doing a lot of the side missions, it's around six to eight hours as previously posted.
Worms can send Death Threats to Captains. Captains can send them to Captains and Warchiefs. The main purpose of them is to increase the likelyhood of an epic rune dropping when you kill them. It also causes whoever was threatened to spawn 4-8 bodyguards too (*non elite, scrubby orcs).
No, you'll eventually get swarmed or get an unlucky blow. If you want to maybe up the stakes most of the side missions can be played with the captains still active so I'd try your hand at that for some higher stakes.
Lionel Richie
Member
You guys should try be brazilian once in a while, this game doesn't release until the 16th around here. I'm dying seeing images and reading everything about it.
neogaffer1
Banned
Are you a steam user? Try using a VPN.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
I'm just about to move on to the second area and I'm 13hrs in. I've done a ton of side missions, tho, so I'm probably not very representative of the norm. Lol
