Silas Lang
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Even if this is the case we should strive to be more environmentally friendly. I think everyone can agree clean air and water are pretty important to our existence.
Millions face starvation due to climate change
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Even if this is the case we should strive to be more environmentally friendly. I think everyone can agree clean air and water are pretty important to our existence.
ipukespiders
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Millions will be facing starvation in the future? First thing to do is stop having so many babies. I think you have to fix the flat tire before you load more weight on the truck.
Yes obviously the problem with man made climate change causing millions to starve is too many people. We could go on merrily polluting the earth and not have people die if only those damn people would stop being born!
Lactose_Intolerant
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It is one of the major problems. All those people require food/water. It is a little short sited to think billions of new people won't affect pollution which contributes to the climate change.
maniac-kun
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There was never a chance for us to do anyting against the climate change as long as everyone just looks at short term profits.
ipukespiders
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Jesus Christ. I said first thing to do, not only thing to do. Fuck.
I think you do have too much faith in science. Also, who is going to fund this research and when?
Even if the techniques you describe were to develop they would be too expensive for poor countries to afford. It's these poor countries that are going to be hardest hit by climate change.
Praying for miracle scientific breakthroughs stops us from acting now, which is what we need to do.
jakonovski
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The quality of many fish products has fallen quite a bit over recent years because several species are practically extinct from overfishing.
Yeah, and it's not only overfishing that's the problem. Climate change has, and will continue, to cause the world's oceans to become more acidic and warmer. The amount of oxygen in the water may also decline. Bad news for many species and the communities that depend on fishing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisheries_and_climate_change
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_global_warming#Oceans
ymoc
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"millions face starvation because of....."
This is amusing...
Until the world keeps throwing food away that could feed the world twice over, I don't want to talk about anything else that is "causing" people to starve, ESPECIALLY not natural phenomena.
Human kind has to sort out its distribution of wealth problem first IMHO and ASAP.
Millions of people are already starving and it's definitely not because of global warming. It's happening because of much more immediate and tangible reasons.
Hell, Monsanto is lobbying to patent vegetables and fruit in the EU as we speak. Now THAT is fucked up and shit like that is what will hurt and damage our future food supply much more.
If we humans didn't spend so much time and energy abusing each other, we'd be living in a god damn utopia right now.
This is amusing...
Until the world keeps throwing food away that could feed the world twice over, I don't want to talk about anything else that is "causing" people to starve, ESPECIALLY not natural phenomena.
Human kind has to sort out its distribution of wealth problem first IMHO and ASAP.
Millions of people are already starving and it's definitely not because of global warming. It's happening because of much more immediate and tangible reasons.
Hell, Monsanto is lobbying to patent vegetables and fruit in the EU as we speak. Now THAT is fucked up and shit like that is what will hurt and damage our future food supply much more.
If we humans didn't spend so much time and energy abusing each other, we'd be living in a god damn utopia right now.
That's a really good point.
I guess the article, and the discussion so far, is based on the assumption that the current inequalities in wealth continue.
ymoc
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I think you're right and in that view the things said here make sense, but like I tried pointing out, I think there are better and easier ways to tackle these problems (changing the global environment and "stopping global warming" is an overkill and a bit over our heads for now imho : ) though the problem of overpopulation could be problematic if not handled correctly, but I don't know much about the topic so I'm just going to shut up now
Phoenician_Viking
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Not at this rate though. Climate is changing faster than it should.
Is this in reference to food production or means to battle changing the climate? Or both?
I think tackling global inequality and tackling climate change are both extremely difficult tasks both in terms of practical logistics and in terms of generating the political will to act. Both require fundamentally questioning the way we live and the way our economy works. But just because something is difficult doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
ymoc
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Good point Sneds. I couldn't agree more.
The thing that puzzles me now is, will we get an ice age or will the temperatures keep rising and we'll get a desert planet?
Some have the opinion, that the global warming we're obeserving is an interlude to a new ice age. Others claim something else entirely.....
I'd be much easier to prepare if we knew what the hell was happening !!!
The thing that puzzles me now is, will we get an ice age or will the temperatures keep rising and we'll get a desert planet?
Some have the opinion, that the global warming we're obeserving is an interlude to a new ice age. Others claim something else entirely.....
I'd be much easier to prepare if we knew what the hell was happening !!!
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