SyenceLabb
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So logically now I should conclude that Milo is a Nazi?
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Milo Yiannopoulos's UC Berkeley speech cancelled due to protests, campus on lockdown
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So logically now I should conclude that Milo is a Nazi?
I'd love to see what this kind of compromise looks like.
Allowing fascists the right to speak is how things have got this far. There is no peaceful solution.
metalslimer
Member
Its just his beliefs guys. Pack it up!
ultratruman
Banned
Good job Berkeley students, this is a great way to give Milo the attention he craves.
He doesn't deserve to be acknowledged as a person.
He doesn't deserve to be acknowledged as a person.
He's not unsure, this is just the same old tired ass "just asking questions" routine.
Nazi, nazi sympathizer, Hitler admirer, take your pick.
Nastrodamous
Member
normalization of nazi's should be put down with the most brutal of methods.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
He is very happy being friends and political allies with Nazis. He might not pull the trigger, but he'd be there cheering them on
Yes the fuck he is
SyenceLabb
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lol. Are some of you advocating physical violence now? I think I will see myself out this thread. Have fun folks.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Uhhh at his last college speech he outed and harassed a trans student for no reason
Messofanego
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We let Trump speak and make a fool of himself. He's now the President. Miss me with that shit.
This is silly its not going to go away this is a terrible ineffective way to handled people like Milo.
AdequateSubject
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They already control the US government. Any perceived "win" they get from people fighting back at this point is utterly irrelevant.
Fight on.
Palette Swap
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Read the page, I'm paraphrasing the usual JAQing off devil's advocacy bullshit.
TheOfficeMut
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You've never heard of him but the moment you do (now) you come to the conclusion that he's not terrible.
For those of us who have read about the things he's said and done and know better than you - yes, he's a terrible person.
Just saw your edit. Never mind.
ultratruman
Banned
Right, and putting your campus on lockdown so that the entire world knows about him is a much better way to make him go away.
metalslimer
Member
I sure as hell wouldn't have cared if they had beat his ass. Certainly would have been better than rioting
Messofanego
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Screaming Meat
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NoblesseOblige
Banned
Not sure where you've held your head buried but this isn't the event that suddenly propelled Milo to attention.
Stop asking questions and try reading?
FlutterPuffs
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Are the protestors in the wrong here? Because from what I read the agitators are from an Anarchist group called the Black Bloc.
EdibleKnife
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You should have seen yourself out when Milo's associates advocated for ethnic cleansing. People need to stop with this act of being offended by the anger of people who have to deal with the fallout of the breeding dangerous, genocidal ideologies rather than those who preach and support such ideologies. It's truly disingenuous.
Oh I see
excelsiorlef
Member
The entire world already knows him... jesus this isn't the first rodeo.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Makes you wanna just punch someone in the face, right? lol..
Gotdatmoney
Member
I guess hate speech is so normalized in America people feel the need to defend it. Lots of countries have ban hate speech and the world continues to spin with the "oppression of mah free speech!!"
But hey, contunue to believe people who preach white supremacy just need to be handled with our gentle hands and given legitimacy. As if people who are anti woman, racist and xenophobic can be reasoned with. If they could you wouldnt have a cheetoh for a president.
But hey, contunue to believe people who preach white supremacy just need to be handled with our gentle hands and given legitimacy. As if people who are anti woman, racist and xenophobic can be reasoned with. If they could you wouldnt have a cheetoh for a president.
If you're asking me if I have any sympathy for Milo supporters getting beaten up, I don't. That might make me insensitive or a jerk or whatever you want to call me. I don't really care. Me and basically the entire left tried to engage and speak with Trump supporters for years and years, as calmly and politely as we could. Never got anywhere, and our weakness lead to a Trump presidency. The time for rational discussion is over and was over for a long time while we fooled ourselves into thinking it wasn't.
ultratruman
Banned
People like Milo and the alt-right are trying to tear down the unwritten rules of common decency that makes social life bearable, and by wishing physical violence on him you are helping them achieve this.
It's not bold and it's not strong. It's cowardice.
Ask your parents if they know about Milo Yiannopoulos. There's a higher chance they will, now that this is hitting the mainstream press.
It's not bold and it's not strong. It's cowardice.
Ask your parents if they know about Milo Yiannopoulos. There's a higher chance they will, now that this is hitting the mainstream press.
StrategyFan
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what exactly did you want the students to do?
the republican student group invited him
uc administration refused to ban him
so instead of protests, do what? write an editorial in a paper nobody reads?
Glass Shark
Banned
Richard Spencer, who yesterday applauded Trump for the "de-Judiafication" of the Holocaust, was punched twice in public. As a result, he's started questioning whether he is able to lead a "movement" of white supremacy and Nazi sympathizing.
Physical violence worked in this case. No one had to die, and a Nazi was denied a safe space to spew hate and lies.
Not all opinions and platforms should be treated with the same respect. White supremacy is not just "a difference of opinion" despite what our President would have you believe.
Yep, agreed.
EdibleKnife
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What the hell are you talking about? Him and Bannon are already on their way toward being household names because the President thinks Breitbart is a legitimate news outlet. Stop acting like the people who don't want to listen to a single syllable out of his mouth are to blame for his rise. The only people at fault are the people that take his rhetoric as gospel and grant him power and position.
TBiddy
Member
When you're saying that this bigoted shitstain deserves and should have a platform to spread his hateful bile and embolden neo-nazis even more, then you're defending him. Austin Walker said it best:
So instead of spending time and energy trying to defend a nazi and his ability to spread his bullshit, help out the groups and people who are suffering from the shit that him and his group are spewing.
I'm not defending him, and I'd appreciate you not calling me a nazi-defender. That a pretty shitty thing to say.
If you'd actually bothered to read my posts, we could talk, but right now you're calling me a nazi-defender for no reason. And that's really fucked up.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
No no, when they advocate against my existence we need to compromise
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Let them radicalize more Dylan Roofs...compromise.
Let them drag us behind their cars...compromise.
Get put in camps...compromise.
C O M P R O M I S E
……forgetit
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I was the managing editor of my student newspaper
people read it if the articles were going to piss them off.
Reddit claims there's a fairly large anarchist group that shows up to basically every protest in that area just to cause havoc and break things. If that's true, then it makes sense, because there's zero reason for students to go around rioting, especially if Milo's event was cancelled.
ultratruman
Banned
Be brutal at a deeper level. Act in such a way that even hitting him, even slapping him is too much of a recognition. You should treat him like the nonperson he is.
Moral decay and the destruction of common decency is what Milo's entire career is all about. Why surrender to him?
Seems like it's always these Scumbag anarchists that take advantage of decent protests and rile shit up to advance their dumbass agenda.
Hopefully we can get some kind of coordination for larger protests to expose these anarchists and hand them over to police as soon as they try to start shit.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Also probably this
Trump people have been caught trying to pull false flag shit a ton, this wouldn't surprise me.
Milo is aligned with the Alt-Right. The guy who started the alt-right (Spencer) has advocated for what he calls "soft ethnic cleansing." So ah, as the one poster said, we should compromise with these guys, and give them a platform to speak from. Hey, are we giving the same podium to speak from to Islamists as well? I mean we should hear them out too right?
Glass Shark
Banned
"Ignore trolls and they'll go away" is not and has never been a valid strategy. It's a flaccid, surface-level mindset created by people who aren't willing to stand up for what's right.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
Again, where have you been? It's far too late to wish Milo into irrelevance. That's half the reason his rhetoric grew. Not sure why you're failing to grasp this.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I just spat coffee on my keyboard.
But that's what you're doing? You're saying that this guy deserves to speak on a public platform at a high profile university? You simply don't realize that there's no debating these people and they certainly should ever be given a platform
Gotdatmoney
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Lol as if this has ever worked in real life. Where did you dream up the strategy that ignoring a problem makes it go away?
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