Well no obviously, before then. I just remember a couple of debates about piracy and pope visits that he was apart of. I was probably oblivious to all the abhorrent shit he was taking apart in.
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Milo Yiannopoulos's UC Berkeley speech cancelled due to protests, campus on lockdown
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Well no obviously, before then. I just remember a couple of debates about piracy and pope visits that he was apart of. I was probably oblivious to all the abhorrent shit he was taking apart in.
Gotdatmoney
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Or we'll ignore him so hard he'll disappear. Duh.
Ive said before on gaf that as a black man i feel safer in other countries than i do at home.
Now im not paranoid to go outside or anything, obviously. But I understand the chances of what can happen while on a simple walk and definitely the danger when around cops.
It should not be this way.
That's quite the logic jump.
gutter_trash
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the protesters should not have trashed or torched the place.
you can protest without wrecking shit.
you can protest without wrecking shit.
excelsiorlef
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Offended?
This is man that wants to see trans folk harassed out of the public sphere.... and you come to me about offended?
He is a threat to my community, this isn't about offense.
Boo-fucking hoo. And there's not a single part of his brain going "Hey, maybe this is what the people I persecute feel like.."I didn't check this follow-up but am so glad that the punch is making Richard Spencer worried.
Im afraid this is going to become the meme to end all memes. That Im going to hate watching this.
I was planning to go out tomorrow during the Womens March to do some journalism but I cant do that anymore. I have reached a stage of being a public figure where I am going to be recognised and then be attacked."
I am worried about going out to dinner on an average Tuesday because these people are roaming around.
Serves the bastard right, quite frankly.
Seems like Donald Trump was one of those old folks that saw this non-sense on Fox News last night... Who wouldn't have seen it if the protests would have remained peaceful against this alt-right ass hat...
Protesting Yiannopoulos, but NOT starting large fires and NOT fomenting violence would have been, in my opinion, the correct response to show no one wants to put up with Yiannopoulos's message, while also not making him the victim on old person media and expanding his sphere of attention...
Just saying...
excelsiorlef
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Just keep blaming everyone but the bigots for Milo's popularity.
I never said you should lay down, infact I'm all for the oposite. But don't let them goad you into your own destruction. He is a nasty little bully. The Nastiest kind.
Not the one that beats you up for lunch money.
Not the one that says mean things...
No.. this is the one that instigates fights and then quickly runs to the "Headmaster" to get you in trouble after that.. he'll bully you for ages about it turning people against you.
You need to be smarter than this dickweed. And you do that by fighting him on his own terms. Meaning: no violence, but dirty as fuck.
Don't care about his private information or home address! He certainly doesn't with his victims, so don't care for his either.
Don't care about lowering to his level, he will certainly not care about you.
Don't care about using his quotes out of contest or his pictures to create outrage! He certainly does this, and you limit yourself by not doing it.
Discredit him like he discredits you. But in no time give him the satisfaction of being violent. That is all he needs to really get you, like that bully in the playground.. he'll just run to the "headmaster" and make up some stories.
You aren't fighting reasonable human beings here, you are fighting playground bullies. Immature little dickweeds. Don't think any higher of them.
Alligatorjandro
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Fuck milo
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...ng-flames-broken-windows-from-dc-to-berkeley/
I don't know if the black bloc is specifically responsible for stuff at Berkeley, but I know they were during inauguration protests.
Gotdatmoney
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And it has been said a million times a group of anarchists showed up and started shit when it was going peaceful. But since reading and critical thinking are not part of the agenda of donald dumbass dump and his supporters they wouldnt know that. So why are we out here trying to pretend like Fox News and Nazis are actually interested in fair balanced opinions?
Nothing protesters do is going to satisfy these people but their issue is protesting. Jesus, when are yall gonna stop pretending these people care about "the right way"?
And that kind of harassment, inciting violence and hate speech, is not protected.
ultratruman
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You don't know anything about the history of fascism 'ringing the bell'. 1920s and 30s Europe was a time of continuous physical political violence. The rise of Nazism could not have been achieved without the Left sabotaging its political legitimacy with the working class and contributing to moral decay by engaging in riots, streetfighting and assassinations.
sazzy
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Boozeroony
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It's ironic to see the vile actions of 'decent people'.
I think he has always held these radical beliefs. It took time for the self-loathing piece of shit to assimilate his thoughts to action because he didn't have an audience. His true self rose to the surface as soon as he found his voice. His role within Breitbart has only exacerbated his hateful rhetoric.
Boozeroony
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My man (woman?)!
link1201
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What's the answer then, oh wise one? "talking about it" and having an arrogant above the fray attitude has led to the election of President Trump and an attitude that normalizes fascism.
We are playing by new rules. I wish it wasn't this way either.
Billy_Pilgrim
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No platforming is utterly childish. I detest the likes of Milo as much as any of you but you're really not doing the left any favours by shutting him down instead of debating him and taking him apart.
More Fun To Compute
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You may be offended but you have to understand that being offended can make you a liability to the struggle more than an asset. He wants you to be offended. It works for him almost every time.
He has a right to say it without fear of government persecution. People telling him to fuck off doesn't violate his free speech.
"Allies" like you are much worse for the struggle.
Screaming Meat
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I advocate the punching of smug Nazis in the face, not rioting.
Having said that, I don't advocate debating hateful fuckheads like Milo and giving them the satisfaction of an equal or formal footing for his 'views'.
Thank you Evelyn Beatrice Hall.
Exactly. Appeasement is one of the central pillars of the rise of Hitler and the start of World War II.
Treating Nazis as nonpeople doesn't solve the problem in any way. I understand that it is what Gandhi and MLK preached, but they did this while protesting. MLK's supporters didn't simply ignore racism, they held sit-ins where they treated those who attacked them as nonpeople. There's a big difference there.
Also, violence doesn't solve problems, but if there was anyone actually deserving of a punch in the face, it's a Nazi.
excelsiorlef
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Please stop talking down to me... like I'm the problem.
Peaceful protest is absolutely encouraged. Riots are not.
NoblesseOblige
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That is presumably before he learned he could profit off fulfilling a niche as a hatemonger. If I recall correctly Milo even at one time wrote about the issues of harassment over the Internet. That didn't propel the sociopath to fame like pandering to his current hate filled audience.
Gotdatmoney
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So we are doing that thing we always do where the hundreds of peaceful pretestors dont matter because some people just wanna fuck shit up. Yall are hilarious, if this is your attitude then the key to shut down any protestor is just to send in oppositie view points who are destructive. Then the whole thing is apparently invalidated.
I didn't check this follow-up but am so glad that the punch is making Richard Spencer worried.
”I'm afraid this is going to become the meme to end all memes. That I'm going to hate watching this."
”I was planning to go out tomorrow during the Women's March to do some journalism but I can't do that anymore. I have reached a stage of being a public figure where I am going to be recognised and then be attacked."
”I am worried about going out to dinner on an average Tuesday because these people are roaming around."
This is amazing, he gets the smallest taste of what it's like to be a minority in the position he wants minorities to be in and he runs with his tail between his legs.
This is definitive proof that violence does work against these fucking craven monsters.
MHWilliams
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Now note, the tweets from the President are closer to actual violations of free speech.
Crossing Eden
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FTfy.
More Fun To Compute
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You do the same. Accusing me of being someone who is too dumb to notice if someone is being racist and how that could be a problem. I'm just trying to be patient and explain my point.
Haha yeah why won't those fucking fags just stop getting offended by shit. Fucking idiots!!!
/s, mods. U know me
excelsiorlef
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Story old as time.
Oh, I still don't see the punchline
Veritigo_X
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Disapprove of violence of course, but nothing I saw from this protest is worse than the fascism that Milo and his ilk support. If they are scared of these protests, fucking good.
Moderates preaching about "fighting with facts" clearly have no skin in the game.
Moderates preaching about "fighting with facts" clearly have no skin in the game.
Glass Shark
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We are talking about people who follow a liar President, read liar Breitbart, watch liar Fox News. None of the sources they get their information from care about objective facts. Objective facts don't work with these people.
As soon as you cross into "maybe Hitler had some okay ideas" territory, calm debate is no longer a good enough tactic.
As soon as you cross into "maybe Hitler had some okay ideas" territory, calm debate is no longer a good enough tactic.
Bigots are gonna bigot.
Are you planning on killing them?
Because short of that, I don't see how they go away.
I used to be under the false impression that racism was basically eradicated by the Civil Rights movement in the 60s. After the last few years with race relations deteriorating and the rise of these alt-right assholes, I've come to the conclusion that they never went away, and they simply took their hate and bigotry underground.
They got quiet about it in person and instead whispered their message to their next generation... We're looking at it now.
So, I'm not blaming the fire starters and violence makers for the bigots.
Absolutely not.
I'm blaming the fire starters for getting the situation large media coverage which makes the alt-right look like the victim.
They should never look like the victim.
They should look like the wrong thinking, outdated, pieces of shit that they are: remnants of abhorrent ideas from a long time ago that have no official place in this day or age.
The alt-right should look like the unhinged fomentors of violence, not the people protesting them.
excelsiorlef
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You keep reducing his very attack on my literal existence as "being offended"
Honestly, it's unlikely that he's a nazi. Since he's half jewish, it's doubtful that he would get in very deep with them. TBH it seems like he might be doing performance art at times - the words that always come to mind when I see him doing his thing are "absurd", "douchey" and "ridiculous", not so much evil or hateful. But now is not the time for his brand of humor.
But the way to fight him isn't with violence. Make fun of him. Humiliate him. Outwit him. Do what Colbert might do and disabuse him of his bullshit.
But the way to fight him isn't with violence. Make fun of him. Humiliate him. Outwit him. Do what Colbert might do and disabuse him of his bullshit.
Oh man I hadn't followed up on this either, but I love this. I loooooove this. This dude should be afraid. He should be fucking terrified. And he should get hit again.
Palette Swap
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The rioters = protesters mentality really makes the debate unreadable and plays right into the "violent protesters" narrative.
People who were protesting Milo were right to do so. The "sir down with him" mentality is somewhere between ignorant and dishonest. This is a guy who showed PowerPoint slides making fun of a trans student, identifying and misgendering her last year at the University of Wisconsin. You're not going to debate him on the merits of saying "him" and calling her a tranny.
The real debacle here is why would you tolerate someone who has a recent and documented history of harassing and bullying students at college appearances.
This is some spectacular performance art I guess:
So what's next? Burning crosses as a thought provoking post-modern deconstruction of religious symbols?
People who were protesting Milo were right to do so. The "sir down with him" mentality is somewhere between ignorant and dishonest. This is a guy who showed PowerPoint slides making fun of a trans student, identifying and misgendering her last year at the University of Wisconsin. You're not going to debate him on the merits of saying "him" and calling her a tranny.
The real debacle here is why would you tolerate someone who has a recent and documented history of harassing and bullying students at college appearances.
This is some spectacular performance art I guess:
So what's next? Burning crosses as a thought provoking post-modern deconstruction of religious symbols?
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