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[platypotamus]

FYI multiplayer is not going to be that great at first. There aren't even going to be any enemies in MP for the first week at least, because he's putting up MP then traveling for a while, before it is 100% feature-complete.

Just makes our starting build areas safer

In other news: My mine is rapidly nearing the bottom of the map. I've found my first gold and my first redstone. I broke through to a cavern (where I heard those noises before), and saw lava, but put a block back in place for the moment. I am afraid that there's a huge cavern directly beneath my mine, and it might be difficult for me to reach the bedrock and still door this cavern off from the rest of my base. Going to have to go in sneakily tomorrow I think, somehow.

 

[Dragmire]

Oh lord. I just spent a good 3 hours playing the free version of Minecraft, which I can't save of course. I built a little fort that went down 2 levels underground, I managed to flood the bottom floor, and then spent an hour dredging out the water.

And all for nothing as I can't save. This game is far too addicting. If you ever loved Lego's as a child (or even as an adult), this game will hook you instantly.

Everyone thinks this, but in free/classic mode, you can save levels to your hard drive (bolded for those that don't know). The only thing you can't do is save them online. You need to buy Alpha to do that.

To save them on your HDD, just go into a game, press Escape, Save Level, and then Save File at the bottom. I saved many levels before I bought Alpha.

 

[Drkirby]

FYI multiplayer is not going to be that great at first. There aren't even going to be any enemies in MP for the first week at least, because he's putting up MP then traveling for a while, before it is 100% feature-complete.

Re: Papyrus - it does seem to be more rare in these most recent patches than when it was first introduced. BUT, it is also easy as hell to farm. You could turn one papyrus into a huuuge farm of it in just a couple days. Each papyrus will grow to full-size about twice each in-game day, giving ~3 more papyrus each time.

IT will be fine. The only problem we will have is no Gunpowder, making my pitfall trap undoable

 

[rohlfinator]

FYI multiplayer is not going to be that great at first. There aren't even going to be any enemies in MP for the first week at least, because he's putting up MP then traveling for a while, before it is 100% feature-complete.

True, and I expect that even after it reaches feature-parity with single-player, it's going to be a griefer's paradise until he implements some better security mechanics. As it is now, it will be ludicrously easy to steal anyone's valuables.

I'm still looking forward to the early multiplayer, though... it'll be nice to have a multiplayer mode with some of the niceties of alpha.

If SMP is anything like classic creative multiplayer, you can have multiple worlds running on one server as long as it has enough space and memory. Then someone can just do something like "/goto build3" to warp to a different world's spawn point.

I hope someone makes a server mod that lets you have "dark world"/winter/hell alternate versions of your existing map and transition people seamlessly between them.

 

[Brazil]

True, and I expect that even after it reaches feature-parity with single-player, it's going to be a griefer's paradise until he implements some better security mechanics. As it is now, it will be ludicrously easy to steal anyone's valuables.

I trust you won't steal my Diamonds, GAF.

 

[Drkirby]

True, and I expect that even after it reaches feature-parity with single-player, it's going to be a griefer's paradise until he implements some better security mechanics. As it is now, it will be ludicrously easy to steal anyone's valuables.

Well, if we make the server private, that should help a bit.

Plus, there really ins't anything that valuable in the game to steal. Other then saddles and records, everything can be gotten pretty easily. I expect GAF to have a chest full of extra diamonds.

Or if you are super paranoid you could make a hidden treasure room under a lake 400 blocks from spawn.

Spoiler

Plus, the ultimate way for griefers to annoy others is to build a lake of lava right under spawn

 

[IceMarker]

I trust you won't steal my Diamonds, GAF.

I'm just gonna keep it in my inventory, not throwing that shit in a chest :lol

 

[rollingstart]

oh man, I got lucky and found a gravity defying cliff to build my house on. All I'm doing right now is focusing on the entrance area with an escape ladder that is hundreds of feet high.

 

[Javaman]

I've used two mining techniques so far, both have had good success but they're somewhat tedious.

Method 1: Dig a hole straight down until you find something interesting.
Method 2: Dig a staircase all the way down to bedrock.

That's pretty much what I've been doing, although I've started digging underneath a huge lake. I found some vertical caves underneath it so I should be deep enough to fan out. I'm assuming there's always sand under lakes? If so that should help prevent me from digging up too high.

 

[Javaman]

Or if you are super paranoid you could make a hidden treasure room under a lake 400 blocks from spawn.

That's a nifty trick! Just build a bomb shelter and fill the hole with a rock. Just make sure it's near some landmark so you can find it again.

 

[ant_]

Best hiding place for diamond - cut out a stone section from a stone floor (any place is fine)
Place a furnace in the cut out section (furnace has the same top look as stone)
Place diamond in furnace. Recover the floor with finished stone.


Invisible hiding place.

 

[Blizzard]

In the SMP server running so far, the spawn area was restricted somehow where you couldn't delete (or build?) anything in that vicinity at all.

 

[Dragmire]

It might be a good idea to implement number locks or something onto chests so that people can store items without others taking them. Maybe adding iron to a chest would add a lock to it (or diamond if he's feeling really sadistic). In fact, locks in general as standalone items could be useful, like if someone keeps trying to use your forge or your minecarts, you could lock them somehow. I'm sure there are downsides, like people getting greedy with their stuff, but it might be a good preventative measure against griefers.

 

[KillerAJD]

Oh god...bought the game around 10pm, it's now almost 4am <_<
Nvm on that question, found out right after I submitted the comment, lol.

 

[Inkwell]

As far as other people stealing your stuff, I think the best option would be to have a checkbox on the screen after you open your chest that would set the box as private or public. Maybe you will have to craft a lock out of iron or something, and interacting with the lock brings up a menu with something similar. It could have something where you can add other people's names to allow them access.

 

[Wired]

Stuff about locks and security in general

Unless I'm completely mistaken I *think* he has talked about implementing locks at some point. Although considering I'm talking out of my ass a lot of the time don't be surprised if I'm wrong

 

[GDJustin]

Best hiding place for diamond - cut out a stone section from a stone floor (any place is fine)
Place a furnace in the cut out section (furnace has the same top look as stone)
Place diamond in furnace. Recover the floor with finished stone.


Invisible hiding place.

Ha. Hiding things is an interesting idea, and one that I hadn't even considered. I don't even know that it needs to be as elaborate as what you're describing. If you have a dirt floor in your house, simply mine out a hole, place a chest in it, then cover it with dirt. It'll only take a few seconds to unbury it when you need access.

Yeah it'll be annoying to dig out and replace that dirt every time and yeah it isn't exactly secure... but come on. Who is gonna dig out someone's dirt wall/floor?

Anyway, in the GAF game I always envisioned us being communist. No individual territories or projects... all communal storage.

 

[Toma]

Ha. Hiding things is an interesting idea, and one that I hadn't even considered. I don't even know that it needs to be as elaborate as what you're describing. If you have a dirt floor in your house, simply mine out a hole, place a chest in it, then cover it with dirt. It'll only take a few seconds to unbury it when you need access.

Yeah it'll be annoying to dig out and replace that dirt every time and yeah it isn't exactly secure... but come on. Who is gonna dig out someone's dirt wall/floor?

Anyway, in the GAF game I always envisioned us being communist. No individual territories or projects... all communal storage.

This. I also thought we'd start a new GAF Map with whatever rules. Centralized storages, or one huge ass cathedral where everybody has his own room or a neat little village where everybody builds his own house.
The possibilities and rules to set this up are eeeeendless.

 

[NinjaTehFish]

This. I also thought we'd start a new GAF Map with whatever rules. Centralized storages, or one huge ass cathedral where everybody has his own room or a neat little village where everybody builds his own house.
The possibilities and rules to set this up are eeeeendless.

This is what im hoping for......the GAF Super Fortress It shall be epic!!!!

 

[nekosaur]

Bought the game yesterday and have spent way too many hours in it. Just starting to get a hang of the basic flow of mining. I need to start growing crops/trees pretty soon i think. Game is too addicting!

 

[The Technomancer]

This is what im hoping for......the GAF Super Fortress It shall be epic!!!!

We need to plan it perfectly though. Total communication between people.

 

[Toma]

Yay! Went looking for Lava and found this lake:

Took me a while to mine this thing out though. But oh well. Should be enough to install some anti-creeper defensive measures around my bases.

 

[Razorskin]

FYI multiplayer is not going to be that great at first. There aren't even going to be any enemies in MP for the first week at least, because he's putting up MP then traveling for a while, before it is 100% feature-complete.

Good we'll be able to place cacti around the perimeter of our castle/cave/treehouse etc without getting ambushed.

Best hiding place for diamond - cut out a stone section from a stone floor (any place is fine)
Place a furnace in the cut out section (furnace has the same top look as stone)
Place diamond in furnace. Recover the floor with finished stone.


Invisible hiding place.

Not all of us have the same textures.

 

[Wired]

Man multiplayer is going to be so great... I want to play it now....

 

[Toma]

Can I mine Obsidian with TNT? probably not right? And I need a diamond pickaxe to gather it? damn

 

[drizzle]

Can I mine Obsidian with TNT? probably not right? And I need a diamond pickaxe to gather it? damn

As somebody pointed out earlier in the thread, it's much easier to build structures out of obsidian with water/lava molds. I've never though of it, but it's awesome. You only need some dirt and buckets.

 

[Toma]

As somebody pointed out earlier in the thread, it's much easier to build structures out of obsidian with water/lava molds. I've never though of it, but it's awesome. You only need some dirt and buckets.

I read in the Wiki that "Obsidian could be created in Infdev; when pre-created water flows onto a pre-created lava spring."
So now water on top of lava from buckets does the same?

 

[Dragnet]

Can I mine Obsidian with TNT? probably not right? And I need a diamond pickaxe to gather it? damn

99% certain you can use an Iron pickaxe, it'll just take much longer. 52 seconds or something, compared to 15 seconds using diamond.

 

[Visualante]

True, and I expect that even after it reaches feature-parity with single-player, it's going to be a griefer's paradise until he implements some better security mechanics. As it is now, it will be ludicrously easy to steal anyone's valuables.

Yup, can't wait

 

[drizzle]

So now water on top of lava from buckets does the same?

If you have water in the bucket, it's a water spring (you can only catch water springs). If you put that water spring in contact with lava...

99% certain you can use an Iron pickaxe, it'll just take much longer. 52 seconds or something, compared to 15 seconds using diamond.

The block will just disappear. Nothing will be harvested, afaik.

 

[Dragnet]

If you have water in the bucket, it's a water spring (you can only catch water springs). If you put that water spring in contact with lava...


The block will just disappear. Nothing will be harvested, afaik.

Ah, my bad It's tedious work mining Obsidian anyway, and you'll find it hard to gather enough to build a sufficient defense with it. Would be cool if you could use it to create even tougher than diamond tools though.

 

[Toma]

If you have water in the bucket, it's a water spring (you can only catch water springs). If you put that water spring in contact with lava...


The block will just disappear. Nothing will be harvested, afaik.

Yeah. Just tested this. Actually I would like to mine some Obsidian. Its nice to have every block in the game in my chests

Right now I am looking around the lava lake for more diamonds. But only finding iron, coal and gold so far

Edit: Oh and lots of Redstone.

 

[Toma]

Going to do some TNT testing down there. Never used it before. Wish me luck not to wake thousands of creepers.

Haha yeah Okay. I guess you need LOTS of TNT to create a somewhat bigger hole :lol

Pretty underwhelming. Oh well, off to mine some more.

Edit: What are you all doing with redstone? There are some nifty uses I've heard. I have about 300 now. I really need to look up what to do with it.

 

[Blizzard]

As somebody pointed out earlier in the thread, it's much easier to build structures out of obsidian with water/lava molds. I've never though of it, but it's awesome. You only need some dirt and buckets.

That's a great idea, but can you do it and still save your lava source? Like...put the lava sources on top of the house to fill the mold, and then move them somewhere else?

Lava's so dangerous I'm scared to work with it. I should carry a couple of portable water sources with me at all times in case I get the Permanent Burn of Death on me.

Hmm, TNT does look a bit underwhelming considering how hard it is to get it. No wonder everyone uses the editor to play with cannons and game-crashing giant TNT balls.

 

[platypotamus]

Yup, can't wait

Alright, don't give Visualante the GAF server password!

(Speaking of which, it probably shouldn't just be posted in this thread, since non-members can read all of GAF and see it and come fuck up our shit). If the Online section is members only still (can't remember?), we could switch server talk to that thread, or maybe just make the password a PM only sort of affair).

 

[Toma]

Alright, don't give Visualante the GAF server password!

(Speaking of which, it probably shouldn't just be posted in this thread, since non-members can read all of GAF and see it and come fuck up our shit). If the Online section is members only still (can't remember?), we could switch server talk to that thread, or maybe just make the password a PM only sort of affair).

Yeah. PM only should be the easiest way. We probably will need several "groups" anyway if the 16 players thing/server is anything to go by.

 

[Huggy]

You use redstone for circuitry for locks or traps. I use it to paint arrows in my mines.

 

[Razorskin]

Alright, don't give Visualante the GAF server password!

(Speaking of which, it probably shouldn't just be posted in this thread, since non-members can read all of GAF and see it and come fuck up our shit). If the Online section is members only still (can't remember?), we could switch server talk to that thread, or maybe just make the password a PM only sort of affair).

We could also put it in the email field of our post so if someone wants it they can just quote mine or someone else's post.

 

[Blizzard]

We could also put it in the email field of our post so if someone wants it they can just quote mine or someone else's post.

But then Visualante would get it. D: (it's ok, I assume the servers will let us ban accounts)

 

[Razorskin]

But then Visualante would get it. D: (it's ok, I assume the servers will let us ban accounts)

OH good point, I'll never forgive him for what he did to that rainbow tower in creative.

 

[Charmicarmicat]

Goddamn it. Built a huge tower with lava waterfalls on either side, on top of my current house. Then as I was building a staircase up the inside of the tower I accidentally mined through to one of the lava springs I placed at the top, ended up flooding my whole house with lava Luckily I had a backup save so I haven't lost too much work.

 

[filipe]

Am I late to the party of something?

 

[Toma]

Am I late to the party of something?

Uhm..
What do you mean?
The diamond equipment?
The chicken?
The dynamite which is enough to blow up everything in sight?

Is this your own game? Oo

 

[filipe]

The chickens. Just wondering if this was part of the last Secret Friday. First time I've seen them... but as you can tell, I hadn't seen sunlight in a long, long while.

 

[Mudo]

I am totally up for doing SMP with you guys. I've really just been messing around with the game for the last week. I do have one question that has come up. I've been playing on peaceful just so I could actually get the hang of things but I want to turn it back to Normal. What is the best way to keep creepers out of my house? Is there any kind of building material that they can't blow up? I already have torches EVERYWHERE inside and out.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

The chickens. Just wondering if this was part of the last Secret Friday. First time I've seen them... but as you can tell, I hadn't seen sunlight in a long, long while.

Yes they were. Also in case you missed it arrows are now made out of flint.

 

[ant_]

I am totally up for doing SMP with you guys. I've really just been messing around with the game for the last week. I do have one question that has come up. I've been playing on peaceful just so I could actually get the hang of things but I want to turn it back to Normal. What is the best way to keep creepers out of my house? Is there any kind of building material that they can't blow up? I already have torches EVERYWHERE inside and out.

They shouldn't bother you as long as your house is completely walled off and there are no darkspots. Just make sure you have doors so you can get in and out - but they can't.

Creepers will only explode if you are standing right next to them

 

[Razorskin]

I am totally up for doing SMP with you guys. I've really just been messing around with the game for the last week. I do have one question that has come up. I've been playing on peaceful just so I could actually get the hang of things but I want to turn it back to Normal. What is the best way to keep creepers out of my house? Is there any kind of building material that they can't blow up? I already have torches EVERYWHERE inside and out.

Obsidian is creeper proof and is relatively easy to make.

Guide To make obsidian structures: http://imgur.com/koxFH.jpg


Gaf defense:

 

[Twig]

I read in the Wiki that "Obsidian could be created in Infdev; when pre-created water flows onto a pre-created lava spring."
So now water on top of lava from buckets does the same?

Flowing water and flowing lava makes cobblestone. It has to be a source of lava or it won't turn into obsidian. The water does not have to be a source. I thought it did at one point, but then I accidentally flooded a lava pool with a waterfall from above once and it was obsidian all around.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Obsidian is creeper proof and is relatively easy to make.

Guide To make obsidian structures: http://imgur.com/koxFH.jpg

FUUUUUUUUUUUU

I'm gonna build a castle outta that shit.