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Minecraft |OT2| Punch Your Way to Your Own World
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Nope, as I said a few posts up, Jeb is currently tweeting that the clouds will stay as-is, as he wants people to be able to build above the clouds.
There's no news whether or not there will be anything done about clouds going through buildings and stuff.
Same.
It did make me laugh how they stated they "fixed" the issue, but only by simply moving the clouds further up.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
As of now the clouds are staying around level 128, and if I had to guess, they will still pass through buildings and walls and such. I don't see that changing anytime soon, even though it would be nice. I'm not too concerned about it personally. Before it was a big issue because we were starved for space and needed to use every bit of height we could muster. Now in 1.2, the cloud layer marks the half-way point of the world. There is tons of space left above them to build. Besides, I think it will be cool to look down from huge heights and see the clouds far below.
Although, a good compromise would be to move them up a bit, like say 30 or 40 blocks above the highest land generation. That would give us more room to build mountain top buildings without having clouds flow through them, but still allow lots of room above them to build.
legacyzero
Banned
I think if Lava and Water can recognize that it's touching something, why cant the clouds?
Well, the cloud wouldn't have to know if it's inside or outside, but maybe just disappear when it hits ANY block, then reappear after it hasn't hit a block for X amount of time, or something like that.
Just as a guess, the lava and water are handled entirely differently from the clouds. All water and lava blocks are handled as any other block in the game (dirt, stone, etc), while the clouds are just a graphical effect. Sure, they're block-shaped, but they're not part of the same system.
Treefingers
Member
Well this seems like it could be done easily enough and Notch even said he would try it.
-Minsc-
Member
I say it's not a matter of "if" but "when".
Large buildings can have clouds in real life though. Not that the're in any way connected to the clouds outside.
Yeah, I figured mine had some flaws, but Treefingers' could work pretty well, given the proper rules for the cloud map. For example, something like "remove the clouds when they hit a block, and don't make them reappear until after they've traveled X amount of blocks with nothing over them". This way they wouldn't reappear as long as there's a ceiling of some sort over them.
legacyzero
Banned
I'd be ok with them not re-appearing at all tbh.
Clouds probably don't do any calculations as it is. Adding constant checks around, inside and above the clouds would be quite a bit of calculations added to the game's footprint. It could probably work as a new higher setting though.
EDIT: Hm, yeah, it could be encoded into the chunk upon loading it though. That would require a slight modification of the new file format, but nothing huge with how it seems structured based on Jeb's blog post.
EDIT: Hm, yeah, it could be encoded into the chunk upon loading it though. That would require a slight modification of the new file format, but nothing huge with how it seems structured based on Jeb's blog post.
legacyzero
Banned
Yeah, just the look of clouds UNDER island would be so awesome.
yes but this would mean that if a cloud would hit a mountain then they wouldn't appear at all.
I was about to say that they should be invisble next to other blocks like stated above but I like the fog feeling when I'm uphigh on a mountain a cloud gets near. Actually I think they should develop the clouds idea and make a fog haha
Raijin_Cain
Member
Can't wait to build my 256 blocks high tower with walls of lava.
Problem, GAF?
Problem, GAF?
Can't wait to build my 256 blocks high tower with walls of lava.
Problem, GAF?
You would have to dismantle them and it would take ten times as long, so your problem.
Can't wait to build my 256 blocks high tower with walls of lava.
Problem, GAF?
*hint *hint
Make your tower outside and far enough from themed towns?
Red Liquorice
Member
I've wanted to make this castle for a while but haven't built up the motivation beyond getting lots of shots of it from google images - every time I make a start I stall because it seems like such a big project!Speaking of which I'll probably attempt this after my current castle...
I doubt I'll do it alone though.
Might make a start once the sky height limit increase comes in since I'd like to build it on a hill overlooking the surrounding land like it actually is.
legacyzero
Banned
>_>Can't wait to build my 256 blocks high tower with walls of lava.
Problem, GAF?
Raijin_Cain
Member
You would have to dismantle them and it would take ten times as long, so your problem.
No problem, I will build it on an island above SkyCity.
Well, that's the name of the game, though
.Honestly, I'm kind of scared about this next update, because having a hugely increased height limit is just the kind of thing that might drag me back into this game. I still remember my initial disappointment with the build ceiling when I first bought the game. Heck, the first thing I did once I had a couple stacks of dirt was to make 1x1 tower on top of the highest hilltop I could find. The disappointment when I had to stop building after about 15 blocks was rather memorable.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I'm pretty sure we all have stories of ours where the height limit hit us square on the head. I still have the first world I ever made, way back in alpha (back when your entire map was either a rain map or a snow map). I spawned right at this awesome mountain and promptly began to convert it into a base, digging tunnels all over the thing and building entrances and balconies all over it. Eventually I began to build towers and walls on top of the mountain, and I soon realized that I didn't have much space up there to build due to the world height limits. I wanted a castle up there but couldn't.
Stuff like that shouldn't ever be a problem again once 1.2 hits, not reasonably anyway.
I'm pretty sure we all have stories of ours where the height limit hit us square on the head. I still have the first world I ever made, way back in alpha (back when your entire map was either a rain map or a snow map). I spawned right at this awesome mountain and promptly began to convert it into a base, digging tunnels all over the thing and building entrances and balconies all over it. Eventually I began to build towers and walls on top of the mountain, and I soon realized that I didn't have much space up there to build due to the world height limits. I wanted a castle up there but couldn't.
Stuff like that shouldn't ever be a problem again once 1.2 hits, not reasonably anyway.
There's always going to be a point where you can't build a castle on your castle on your castle.
ArtistDude88
Member
Excellent. With this height increase, all we need now are craftable parachutes. Or gliders. Then make a jump station.
legacyzero
Banned
PLANES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*ahem*. Airplanes please. We need some air vehicles.
Imp the Dimp
Member
When do you guys expect 1.2 to be released?
Raijin_Cain
Member
That. would. be. awesome!
Just something to break the fall would be great.
Wool Wool Wool
Wool Wool Wool = PARACHUTE
Stick Stick Stick
There. Get it done, Jeb!
That. would. be. awesome!
Just something to break the fall would be great.
Wool Wool Wool
Wool Wool Wool = PARACHUTE
Stick Stick Stick
There. Get it done, Jeb!
Pff, all you need is a little pool of water.
Raijin_Cain
Member
Sometimes you are exploring and dont have that luxury.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
There isn't a date yet for 1.2, but Jeb wants to get the new snapshot (with the new biome data and height limit) out tomorrow.
Just remember that even when patch 1.2 does release, it will be some time until bukkit and Multiplay update, so Neocraft will lag behind again a bit. We've got quite some time until this hits the server.
legacyzero
Banned
Why do they take so freaking long?!
to stay one version behind you just back-up your .jar file, or is there an option to refuse the update when it's out ?
And I'll just leave it there because I think Ark may have missed my message my Minecraft name is Kentsui (that was me lurking around Skycity those last few days and just being amazed at how fast it is growing )
Oh and, is that huge excavation that -SD- posted a few pages back supposed to be on the server ?
And I'll just leave it there because I think Ark may have missed my message
my Minecraft name is Kentsui (that was me lurking around Skycity those last few days and just being amazed at how fast it is growing )Oh and, is that huge excavation that -SD- posted a few pages back supposed to be on the server ?
Nope. It's in my singleplayer Survival world.
Dreams are good for your mental health
Repeated disappointment weighs heavily on the mind.
legacyzero
Banned
So does magma, oh god of lava
I'll take the role as God Of Bad Advice (This is one thing I pride myself upon), but I'm not taking up the position of God Of Lava and other related titles. It wasn't me who built the massive tower of doom, if anything our friend SMG should get the blame for this one.
And since I recently seem to have become a God where's my tributes eh? One statue? BAH! I want diamonds and gold otherwise I might just start handing out some more advice to unsuspecting newcomers, I think we can all agree that won't turn out well for anyone involved.
legacyzero
Banned
Cain, it was actually an awesome idea. It' major flaw though, was location, location, location.
For 1, it blocked the road for the new land mass. 2: you better be glad that Minecraft isn't physics based, or that heavy ass thing would have tipped that island over.
and 3:, it really didn't fit the feel of the island what everyone was going for. I think if you were to do something like that NEXT to the island, it would work. not to mention, after we put the fires out, the base of it looked so awesome.
For 1, it blocked the road for the new land mass. 2: you better be glad that Minecraft isn't physics based, or that heavy ass thing would have tipped that island over
.and 3:, it really didn't fit the feel of the island what everyone was going for. I think if you were to do something like that NEXT to the island, it would work. not to mention, after we put the fires out, the base of it looked so awesome.
Treefingers
Member
Not sure if anyone posted this but redstone-controllable lights of some sort will be in tomorrow's snapshot according to Jeb.
That's going to be great until shutting your house's lights off also turns on creepers spawning. It'll probably be used for zany stuff, looking forward.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
I apologize if its been discussed ad nauseam but how is the iOS version of Minecraft?
Raijin_Cain
Member
Cain, it was actually an awesome idea. It' major flaw though, was location, location, location.
For 1, it blocked the road for the new land mass. 2: you better be glad that Minecraft isn't physics based, or that heavy ass thing would have tipped that island over
and 3:, it really didn't fit the feel of the island what everyone was going for. I think if you were to do something like that NEXT to the island, it would work. not to mention, after we put the fires out, the base of it looked so awesome.
Thanks, Im gonna do that on the next island Roche builds.
Everything was fine till you told me to use sand. I was going to just throw water in it.
So, keep living up to your name oh God of Bad Advice
The world is really small (although still procedurally generated) and there's no resource gathering involved. It's s creative mode, but without exploration too. It's basically just the building part of the PC version, but with slightly worse controls. I picked it up for one dollar during some Android ultra sale months back, and it was worth that. Not sure how much it is normally.
I'm assuming the Android version is identical feature-wise.
Treefingers
Member
They've added survival mode in the newest patch but it's very basic.
Orbis Tabula
Member
So I thought I'd give you guys a preview of my new MEGA-Project. I started it on a Superflat world, so I don't have to focus too much on terraforming. Or at least, I'll just be building the land I want, not destroy and then building. So anyway, here's a little sneakpeek
