I've been out of the hobby for a while, but I'm really itching to get some assembling and painting going on. Not sure if I just want to buy some minis that look cool or actually start up a new faction (or even a new game entirely) in a game. Mostly considering starting up a new Warhammer or Warmachine faction, or just trying out Infinity.
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BattleMonkey
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So the Monster mech for Robotech was unlocked as a $40 purchase. Gonna be a big fig
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Going to do a little more cleaning up. For some reason this guy was missing his left nipple, so there's that. I need to clean up the last highlight and add a few more around the back of the head. It doesn't look great, but I'm making progress when it comes to painting skin.
I'll paint the armor next (blue?) and then practice some more NMM on the weapon. I may try doing a brass axe head rather than steel.
Great work on the flesh. It looks a bit cel shaded to me across the chest and abs, though. Such a high contrast between the high and low points of the muscles. If that's what you're going for, success! Otherwise, if you can blend the colors down a bit, it may help.
The blending was actually worse before and way more drastic, believe it or not. I like what I've got here, but I'll make a final decision on how I approach it from now on once the model is done. I want to see how it looks after it ties into the fur, armor, and the weapon.
Thanks for the input.
Thanks for the input.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
This is a very good point. It could just be popping so much because of the black that's jumping out and contrasting so strongly with the lighter skin tones.
PS - the work you've done on the face is killer good.
Could be. It should look at least a little more tame once the contrast comes down.
And thanks for the compliment. I've always struggled painting skin, especially faces, so it's great to see that the practice is paying off.
Late night edit:
I think I'm done with the blue part of the armor but I may try a glaze to tie the layers of blue together. Not sure if it needs one more brighter layer or not but I am pretty satisfied here. Going to make some time for the gold around the knees this weekend since I want to do NMM for that. Now that I think about it, I may paint the feet blue. Not sure gold boots are going to look good.
And thanks for the compliment. I've always struggled painting skin, especially faces, so it's great to see that the practice is paying off.
Late night edit:
I think I'm done with the blue part of the armor but I may try a glaze to tie the layers of blue together. Not sure if it needs one more brighter layer or not but I am pretty satisfied here. Going to make some time for the gold around the knees this weekend since I want to do NMM for that. Now that I think about it, I may paint the feet blue. Not sure gold boots are going to look good.
Diatribe1974
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Painted some more on my WHFB Ork Chariot setup and Ork Warboss riding a boar. Also washed some more of my semi-converted Space Wolves Standard Bearer ( took a blank ork banner and chopped off the old metal one the original pre-Finecast one had and reassembled after pinning and gluing it together). All in all, its coming along nicely. Wish I had more time for this than once a week, but its either this way and have a fiance and kids....or have plenty of time and none of that....of which I've chosen the first option (ready access to sex helps push this kinda instantly...ya know? lol)
Sneaky Gato
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Congratulations! Any Hints of upcoming projects? 
Congratulations! Any Hints of upcoming projects?
NDAs!
So no, but they are all cool things!
piratepwnsninja
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So any recommendations for Infinity?
GarthVaderUK
Banned
So guys, I'm working for Privateer Press, Fantasy Flight Games, and Dream Pod 9 now
I appear to be quite popular for designing weapons and armor.
Congrats dude! That's fantastic!
BattleMonkey
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Lot of pimping out that game in earlier pages. I think it's one of the best miniature games out there. Just not that popular or well known as the other big games.
krypt0nian
Banned
Getting excited for the BONES to ship. Getting the painting bug again!
piratepwnsninja
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Read your review. It sounds great. Now to figure out two good starter armies for my son and I/
BattleMonkey
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So it looks like up next for Robotech kickstarter is the male zentradi power armor. Female armor not far behind I bet.
Cosmic Schwung
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It would appear that GW is finally letting its specialist games die and won't be casting any more models for them. Once the current stock is gone, it's gone for good. If there's anything you want to grab I'd suggest you do so sooner rather than later.
BattleMonkey
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Ick, was holding off buying more blood bowl stuff for a while now, waiting to see if that rumored relaunch ever would happen.
Cosmic Schwung
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Even if the new blood bowl does happen, I doubt it'll support additional teams beyond those in the box. I think they want the limited release stuff to be standalone so they don't have to support it after it's out the door. Hopefully they will keep the old rules up on the site although that would be surprising if they no longer have models to go with them.
Little Old Man
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One or two of the LOTR metals are no longer available too. Better buy the ones I need soon.
Cosmic Schwung
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Oh god, you're right. It's not just the specialist games, it's literally everything that's still metal. Time to start sifting through the catalogue.
Little Old Man
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Yeah, 40k/WHFB classics ranges too. No more Steel Legion or Mordian Iron guard!
I imagine a lot of these metals have had no production for a long time now, it's just taken this long for GW to sell its remaining stocks of some lines. I wonder if they're be a cut off date whereby they just melt down anything that's left?
Risible
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Do you have a link to this news by any chance?
Cosmic Schwung
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There's no official announcement, just responses to questions on why certain things are no longer available to order. Closest I can find to what you're asking for is this article. There's a couple more pieces on the blog confirming that FW are also dropping specialist games support, and the loss of collectors minis.
Looks like you're right. Apparently they got rid of their metal casting kit a few years back.
Little Old Man
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That makes sense, it's not like they were going to be designing new metal minis post Finecast. Plus given GW was a lot less streamlined during the mid 2000s than today, there were probably large enough stocks of Specialist game metals to keep them going until now (since they wouldn't have sold large volumes).
Add in the ongoing drive from GWHQ in 'trimming the fat' the eye of the axeman has fell on it's latest victim- stores of old metals using up warehouse space. With LOTR though I imagine there are much greater stocks of metals available, contrasting against the minimal sales today. Hoepfully they won't scrap them for a little while longer, and the ones which have recently become unavailable are just one offs for the time being.
Edit: it does make me chuckle though that as GW as shifted its focus away from Specialist Games, there are multiple (and better?) alternatives provided by so many companies. Even Mantic hit its $50,000 Kickstarter goal for its latest skirmish game in a day.
BattleMonkey
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GW just grew too big for the hobby. What other companies wish they could do or sell, just isn't enough in the eyes of GW. So many games that for others would have been considered hits, are just tossed aside in favor of the big bucks.
Little Old Man
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The root of all that is GW becoming a PLC- they have to chase profits and please shareholders above all else. Though then I have to wonder if converting allowed them to finance a deal to license LOTR, which in turn led to investments in plastic production and moldings (but at the same time the LOTR 'fad' dying out caught GW with their pants down, which has led to the efficiency drive we see today).
BattleMonkey
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So apparently Dust Tactics and Warfare are being dropped by Fantasy Flight games, and distribution and marketing of the game is going to Battlefront miniatures (makers of Flames of War). Battlefront is a good company, but this likely means a big price increase for Dust products. Battlefront is very restrictive on what stores sell product at and they have to but direct from Battlefront. Most stores only offer 10-15% off battlefront products, while before Dust under FFG was sold for 35-40% off.
Yea it also happened with WOTC. Always a big wall in front of communication and product lines just getting cut left and right in favor of what is the hottest. Even if something is doing well, it's taking resources from #1 lines, so they cut the fat. GW is huge, larger than most game companies and it's got the corporate wall. While many other game companies are maybe 5-10 guys in an office somewhere.
Yea it also happened with WOTC. Always a big wall in front of communication and product lines just getting cut left and right in favor of what is the hottest. Even if something is doing well, it's taking resources from #1 lines, so they cut the fat. GW is huge, larger than most game companies and it's got the corporate wall. While many other game companies are maybe 5-10 guys in an office somewhere.
Little Old Man
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I actually think WOTC don't do a bad job considering they're owned by Hasbro. They have some degree of free reign, and are a lot closer to its community via its and other MTG websites than GW have been for some years.
Personally there is a little bit of logic to GW's direction in the past five years. Cut all the fat, focus on three lines, minimal community contact/lack of rumours until days before to generate impulse purchases, and very high prices. Why high prices? Well there's two main target markets:
1) New players who have no idea of what is 'good value' and so pay prices. Lots of players are unlikey to stick with tabletop games, so make the entry cost high to generate as much revenue as possible (imagine the cost of buying a 40k 1500pt army for example). Further make sure all stores on cater to teaching newbies, offer a high margin hobby range etc
2) Established players. These guys are hooked by GW games, and will generally buy anything thrown at them (see the limited edition army books for example) for their respective armies (along with new ones when the hype sets in). Heavy investment in a given system makes it hard to 'let go' and move on, since dropping it feels like a waste.
The problem is that if you look at the Hobbit, there's a good chance it hasn't sold anything near LOTR levels due to the very high prices. LOTR being cheap acting as a path into 40k/WHFB always seemed a better idea to me.
krypt0nian
Banned
The wait is killing me! Any Reaper BONES sets in GAFLand yet?
BattleMonkey
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But that is the problem, WOTC only cares about MTG and D&D. Any other product line they put out gets next to no support and eventually is killed off. If your a magic player, I'm sure you think WOTC is pretty good, but everything else they try usually just fails and they don't give any push to them. Its sad how many products they had releasing that weren't even on their own website, they would have on the lines own page an expansion from a set or two ago as the headline, but nowhere sight of a newly released expansion.
Little Old Man
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I forgot WOTC makes anything else actually.
I kinda wish somebody competent did a line like the prepainted Ragnarok/At-43 (obviously dropping from unpainted metal to prepainted plastic using the same IP was brutally stupid by that company (just pissed off the entire fanbase)).
Star Wars miniatures game is showing that there is room in the market for that.
Star Wars miniatures game is showing that there is room in the market for that.
BattleMonkey
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So has WOTC lol. Remember folks who worked on the Axis and Allies mini game who essentially said the same thing, they were often in the dark if there work would even see the light of day and that all the big wigs at WOTC were focused on was MTG and D&D. So you would just hope they get back to your submitted work and let you go forward.
Dust Tactics and Warfare are not bad. The fully painted figs cost alot though, but game still is fun out of the box with the single color paint jobs on them. The figs all come essentially primed in their faction color.
Hoping that they expand their Star Wars miniatures into ground combat games as well, since their license for Star Wars prevents them from making board games.
ColonelSkills
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New X-Wing stuff.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hexis/sets/72157633402183581/
B-Wing, as anticipated.
TIE Bomber, as anticipated.
Lambda Class Shuttle, as anticipated.
And the motherfucking Moldy Crow from Dark Forces. This is fucking awesome, and shows they're willing to do EU ships from various sources and different levels of obscurity.
I was honestly expecting them to transition to Naboo Fighters/Jedi Starfighters and the like and start with the fourth ship in this wave.
Now do a Star Viper and TIE Defender. Yeah.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hexis/sets/72157633402183581/
B-Wing, as anticipated.
TIE Bomber, as anticipated.
Lambda Class Shuttle, as anticipated.
And the motherfucking Moldy Crow from Dark Forces. This is fucking awesome, and shows they're willing to do EU ships from various sources and different levels of obscurity.
I was honestly expecting them to transition to Naboo Fighters/Jedi Starfighters and the like and start with the fourth ship in this wave.
Now do a Star Viper and TIE Defender. Yeah.
BattleMonkey
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Yep lot of EU material they could use for the current OT era..
The wings on the Shuttle go up and down?
The wings on the Shuttle go up and down?
ColonelSkills
Member
Sure looks like it. Works well for storage, at the very least.
T-Wing and TIE Defender seem like obvious choices for the next wave if they are sticking to the OT period.
Cosmic Schwung
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I don't know why but I always pictured him as an anime pretty boy. Can't wait to see the full diorama with Ferrus Manus.
I don't get why FW doesn't hand its new stuff over to the eavy metal team. I want to see some amazing paint jobs to go with the amazing models instead of the middling efforts we see these days. That should go double for something as impressive as a primarch.
BattleMonkey
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Z-95, E-Wing, Tie Defenders, Skipray Blastboats..... all popular EU ships. Imagine this means the Outrider is likely too. Imperial Gunships from the Tie/Xwing games would be neat too.
BattleMonkey
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I'm hoping you can turn it. Like my B-Wings somewhat sideways.
Still waiting for mine here. I went in for the vampire level minus Sophie plus Cthulhu, reaper red dragon and kaldrax so I don't know if some of my add-ons are slowing it down. It can't be much longer right?
piratepwnsninja
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Ordered the Infinity core book today at my FLGS. He's actually looking at stocking the game too, which is nice.
Also, don't know if we have any Malifaux people here, but 2nd edition sounds...interesting.
Also, don't know if we have any Malifaux people here, but 2nd edition sounds...interesting.
BattleMonkey
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Malifaux is cool, I reviewed it here a while back but it does need some streamlining. Each model just has so many rules, even if your playing with 5-6 figs a side, the games can really drag out with all the rule fiddling and back and forth. What many hope for is streamlining lot of the stuff into more standardized abilities since right now most figs all have a small booklet of unique abilities. Would be much quicker game if you knew what your opponent had instead of having to analyze paragraphs worth of ability text per model each game.
BattleMonkey
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Sedition Wars is on sale today only at Cool Stuff : http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/184967
Very cheap for a ton of minis and it's essentially a stand alone game.
Very cheap for a ton of minis and it's essentially a stand alone game.
piratepwnsninja
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OK, Miniatures-GAF. I have a confession. I love playing miniatures games. I love painting minis. I HATE putting them together. No matter what I try, I just seem to have trouble getting the glue to set on a lot of the pieces. I pre-wash them. I've tried different glue types. I've actually spent more time putting together some Malifaux minis than it took me to paint them.
Anyone have any tips for making assembly less of a pain? I generally just end up with glue fingers a lot of the time. I'll try anything at this point.
Anyone have any tips for making assembly less of a pain? I generally just end up with glue fingers a lot of the time. I'll try anything at this point.
BattleMonkey
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Well have you tried a zip kicker? It pretty much instantly dries super glue and is really helpful for putting together heavier parts on figs. You just have to be careful with it since it instantly dries glue. So best to put the zip kicker on a part, and glue on the other and get it together as fast as possible to it glues right.
Also the thing to remember with super glue, less is more. Too much glue and it takes longer for it to dry. Always use the least amount of glue you can to get it to dry and harden faster. Once you have let glue dry then, you can add some more to reinforce a joint later. Working with small pieces on minis, always best to use little glue, most people do this wrong at first and just try putting on more glue which makes it worse. And whenever joining pieces, remember that you need maximum connection to parts, if they do not fit flush together, then scrape, cut, and sand till the parts slip together nicely. Once they do the glue will be able to bond better the pieces. And when dealing with plastics, its very easy as again, just use little bit at a time. If your getting glue all over your fingers, then your probably using too much.
Also the thing to remember with super glue, less is more. Too much glue and it takes longer for it to dry. Always use the least amount of glue you can to get it to dry and harden faster. Once you have let glue dry then, you can add some more to reinforce a joint later. Working with small pieces on minis, always best to use little glue, most people do this wrong at first and just try putting on more glue which makes it worse. And whenever joining pieces, remember that you need maximum connection to parts, if they do not fit flush together, then scrape, cut, and sand till the parts slip together nicely. Once they do the glue will be able to bond better the pieces. And when dealing with plastics, its very easy as again, just use little bit at a time. If your getting glue all over your fingers, then your probably using too much.