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MLB Off-Season 2011: Only a few more weeks until the radio talks about baseball again
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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_y...cB?slug=ti-brown_hiroki_kuroda_dodgers_121911
This makes me wanna cry.
This makes me wanna cry.
And the great Nuñez.
Just so long as there are no more "The Dump" signs in front of our bullpen like there was a couple of years ago...smh.
And "evil empire of texas" does sound nice, but don't we have to pretty much double our payroll to get to the yankees level?
Gotta think that letting CJ go and throwing money at Yu was the plan all offseason after the way this played out.
Rafa=FedKilla
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They got contract extensions comin' up for their big hitters. Either the Chicken Express sign in right field is payin' alot or they gonna Hick's it up.
yankeeforever2
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The Yankees are at the edge of there budget yes, but the Yankess baseball team can always use there profits from YES/Concession(its own company) which are not part of the Yankees.
The Luxury tax is the edge of our budget, the Yanks will stay around 194 mil so they can save money over the long term.
Also if the Yanks were at the edge of there budget, Soriano would of not been signed.
The Yanks have very low debt and since the new stadium they have been profiting even with low 200 mil payrolls during a recession.
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/33/baseball-valuations-11_New-York-Yankees_334613.html
Oh, really?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/s...rs-mets-add-perks-to-the-deal.html?ref=sports
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/20/mets-drop-minor-league-team/
As if we need more proof that the Mets are totally fucked under the Wilpons.
MLB needs to take care of this shit, and fast.
yankeeforever2
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So the Mets don't have a class A baseball team anymore?
Any other teams not have one?
Any other teams not have one?
Mr. Enigma
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The Orioles turned down the Braves trade attempt for Adam Jones. The Braves were believed to have offered Jair Jurrjens, Martin Prado, and an unnamed young pitcher.
wow that would have been fucking awful. Thankfully the orioles are dumb.
edit: i doubt that this rumor is real the more I think about it. No one in their right mind would turn that down for jones.
Baseball America's Top Ten Yankees list
1. Jesus Montero
2. Manny Banuelos
3. Dellin Betances
4. Gary Sanchez
5. Mason Williams
6. Dante Bichette Jr.
7. Ravel Santana
8. Austin Ronnie
9. J.R. Murphy
10. Slade Heathcott
Kind of surprised to see Santana make it and not Warren or Phelps. Also almost half of the top ten is made up of catchers even though some of them won't stay there long term.
1. Jesus Montero
2. Manny Banuelos
3. Dellin Betances
4. Gary Sanchez
5. Mason Williams
6. Dante Bichette Jr.
7. Ravel Santana
8. Austin Ronnie
9. J.R. Murphy
10. Slade Heathcott
Kind of surprised to see Santana make it and not Warren or Phelps. Also almost half of the top ten is made up of catchers even though some of them won't stay there long term.
Dmncnby2k9
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Thing is Mets had two, now they only have one.
You underestimate the Orioles' stupidity.
It's not according to Bowman.
http://markbowman.mlblogs.com/2011/12/21/braves-did-not-offer-jones-and-prado-to-the-orioles/
evil solrac v3.0
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I noticed yet another topic in the OT where people get to bash on Baseball.
What thread is that?
evil solrac v3.0
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Mr. Enigma
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The Reds have traded Travis Wood to the Cubs in exchange for Sean Marshall.
The Frankman
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It does reflect a philosophy change though. Mets usually like to groom high-schoolers for a long period of time. I've heard from Sandy they're looking to draft more college guys and shorten the "grooming" process.
EDIT:
Thank God. I hate Wayne Hagin.
ah thats what i thought. that rumor was just too ridiculous.
Absolutely embarrassing. How fucking pathetic.
I can't wait until the Wilponzis are destitute and are forced to sell.
Mr. Enigma
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Man...the new entries on the Hall of Fame ballot are fucking pathetic except for Bernie Williams. :lol
-- Jeromy Burnitz
-- Vinny Castilla
-- Brian Jordan
-- Javy Lopez
-- Bill Mueller
-- Terry Mulholland
-- Phil Nevin
-- Brad Radke
-- Tim Salmon
-- Ruben Sierra
-- Bernie Williams
-- Tony Womack
-- Eric Young
If Dale Murphy doesn't make it this year, he won't ever.
-- Jeromy Burnitz
-- Vinny Castilla
-- Brian Jordan
-- Javy Lopez
-- Bill Mueller
-- Terry Mulholland
-- Phil Nevin
-- Brad Radke
-- Tim Salmon
-- Ruben Sierra
-- Bernie Williams
-- Tony Womack
-- Eric Young
If Dale Murphy doesn't make it this year, he won't ever.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Uhhh, he's pathetic too. Has no business getting 10% of votes or whatever he ends up getting. It's definitely a sad list of former players. I will have always a spot in my heart for loathing Brian Jordan though.
Lol @ calling a person who accumulated 47 war in his career pathetic. He shouldn't get in but he's far from pathetic.
Ninja Scooter
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Edgar deserves in before Bernie. Way before.
talisayNon
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bernie williamd>*
Ninja Scooter
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I don't know. Ryan Braun is pretty good.
evil solrac v3.0
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Bernie won't/shouldn't get in but he was far from pathetic, check your shit darkside3.
this must eb teh worst class ever. where is Edgar Martinez?
this must eb teh worst class ever. where is Edgar Martinez?
I think he just listed the new inductees.
I know I'm late here, but this rumour was obviously complete bullshit. There's no way in fuck Wren would have offered that package for Jones. This is just the Orioles trying to inflate Jones' market.
And if the baseball press has demonstrated anything this offseason, it is that they should not ever be believed when they are the only one reporting something.
And this one hasn't been confirmed either, right? And the Reds supposedly included two minor leaguers? I'll believe it when it's confirmed. But, I will say, that that would be sincerely retarded on the Reds' part.
Edgar should definitely be in, considering Jim Rice got in.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I'm not hating on Bernie Williams. He's the stand out of this sorry class. The guy was Steve Finley / Devon White good, almost as good as Mike Cameron. He was a good player, I don't hate him for anything other than the fact he was a Yankee.
And yes Ellis Burks > Bernie.
And yes Ellis Burks > Bernie.
evil solrac v3.0
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I saw the list but what year did Edgar Martinez retire?
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If Edgar was so great how come he couldn't play defense?
For $20 million you get to fund the Wilpons. That's the worst incentive of all.
And, the article notes, it's not clear how much (if any) a potential minor investor in the team might have to pay after the Madoff trustee lawsuit.
Rafa=FedKilla
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He's right though, that show was fullfilling and live.
What other ex-Braves are FAs?
Beyond the Boxscore did that weighted WAR hall of fame thing a year ago (takes into account a player's peak) and bernie was closer than i thought. The dude that did it said he missed by 5 wWAR. Dale Murphy was in btw (barely, he had the minimum).
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2011/3/10/2041906/the-hall-of-wwar-center-fielders
he recently did an updated version recently
http://darowski.com/hall-of-wwar/
and posted his top 25 players that are eligible that are not in
and then he did an Upcoming Hall of Fame Candidates, by Weighted WAR article.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2011/11/18/2569018/upcoming-hall-of-fame-candidates-by-weighted-war
Joe Mauer is already on that list, which is impressive. I knew Pujols would be there, but didn't think of Mauer.
Love the whole series of articles.
Andruw is the big one. Don't see him going to the Royals though.
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