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MLB Off-Season 2011: Only a few more weeks until the radio talks about baseball again
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Ninja Scooter
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Neither did Mike Piazza and he's going to the Hall of Fame.
Hahahahahahahahaha this made my day! Holy crap that was so horrible!
Rafa=FedKilla
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Twins nearing a deal with another mediocre pitcher to add to their staff, Jason Marquis.
I'm socking away money for World Series tickets.
I'm positive Kevin Slowey & Jason Marquis will have very similar seasons next season.
Maybe with Liriano and Scott Baker. But Jesus Christ, they really do not go outside their mold for starting pitching.
I'm praying they can draft Mark Appel.
Honestly if the Yankees would pay 75% of the salary, I'd rather the Twins trade for AJ Burnett than sign another god damn soft tossing pitcher who is going to suck shit. At least it would be interesting failure.
/cheer the orioles will lose 6-5 instead of 6-4 now.
Rafa=FedKilla
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I think Prince sees a little bit of himself in your old/new logo.
The Frankman
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Let me tell you something about Piazza...
he was a gamer!
He was a baller!
An impact player!
A great game-caller!
As a catcher he shattered the mold!
Ninja Scooter
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Let me tell you something he wasn't:
Watch out for that Dyke though.
Must be Hanrahan's wife.
TheNatural
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Reds trading Travis Wood to the Cubs for Sean Marshall. I like it, this guy can be put into the closer role, he's a great reliever. And the Reds get rid of yet another wonky starter I don't have to hear about reaching his "potential" this year. Now if we can get a left fielder, I will be feeling pretty damn good.
Indians are in on Beltran (Blue Jays and Cards, too).
https://twitter.com/#!/Buster_ESPN/status/149709687170932737
https://twitter.com/#!/Buster_ESPN/status/149709687170932737
you like trading a starter under control for 5 years for a reliever (a very good one but still a reliever) that is a FA after next season. And it looks like the Reds are adding two prospects as well. I don't like this deal for the Reds. Wood was good in 2010, i wouldn't give up on him.
TheNatural
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I like trying to improve enough to win the division and go to the playoffs next year, yes. I like not hearing about how starter 6, 7, and 8 for the Reds depth chart are so great then come up and post 5 plus ERA's, yes. Definitely won't miss Volquez, Wood, Cordero and crew this year. The time to win is now, I'm not worried about 2014.
Well, the point, as with the last Reds trade, is not that it is bad to trade away the players that they are, or that they shouldn't be acquiring the players that they are. It's that they're giving up too much value for the pieces they're acquiring. Yeah, they're trading away from positions of depth and making the team better now, but they could be making the team even better than they are. They should have been able to acquire the same players they have (Latos and Marshall) and others for all the pieces they have given up so far.
Yes, the team is better now, but Jocketty has hurt his ability to make the team even better by overbidding on the players he's acquired.
This is, again, an argument based on the assumption that this trade is actually happening. I find it difficult to believe that any GM would be willing to give up 5 years of Travis Wood and two prospects for one year of Sean Marshall. That's just bizarre.
yeah his value is probably as high as it will ever be.
I was just thinking about that today. It would suck to lose him, and some teams might be feeling cautious about the workload he's had the last two seasons, but we could probably get a pretty sweet package for him and still have an above average bullpen.
Hopefully Wren's listening to offers.
Hopefully Wren's listening to offers.
Wren seems to like to trade players when their value is the lowest. ahem Yunel.
true, but that happened like a week after he became GM, i have a hard time giving him credit for that. But he may have been doing a lot of that stuff before that. I know he did all of the negotiations with Boras when he was Assistant GM.
Little Green Yoda
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I find it funny that several posters are so sure that the Reds could've gotten more without access to insider info about what other offers were on the table or how other GMs view the players involved. You guys may very well be right in this assessment, but I'm sure the front offices are working with a lot more info then us fans have. Aside from the dreaded Mulder/Haren trade, Jocketty has a fairly decent record in the trading department so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
The Frankman
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What the Hell? Wood looked like a talent and all they got was Marshall?
Mr. Enigma
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I'm assuming you mean 2011. But I wouldn't call 36 home runs shitting the bed. He did exactly what he was acquired to do, although it wasn't pretty in the first three months.
acheron_xl
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I'm really scared that the Cubs might someday become a team worthy of their market and revenue. Smart moves like this don't make me feel any better.
darkside31337
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What talent? The guy is a 4/5 starter, at best.
Guy doesn't strike anybody out, has a really high flyball rate (this is going to work so well in Wrigley) and a completely average walk rate.
I'm assuming Marshall is pegged as the closer. Trading a back of the rotation arm for 1 year of a solid closer is actually sane compared to what other teams have been doing thus far this off season.
Reds are all in this season but honestly even if it all went terribly wrong they could flip Marshall at the deadline and get something of more value than garbage rotation filler Wood.
http://mlb.mlb.com/fan_forum/greeting_card.jsp?c_id=atl&partnerId=fb_share
Windu, defend ANYONE in this video. This is terrifying.
Windu, defend ANYONE in this video. This is terrifying.
Marshall is one of the best lefty relievers in the game.
Dmncnby2k9
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Man, if you guys ever decided to trade Felix, what a haul you guys would receive!
As much as I love Felix and as sad as I would be to see him go .... it seems like its going to be necessary sooner or later. And god I hope its not to the Yankees and their overhyped stupid prospects.
You will take Jesus and you will like it.
He is fine ... from a DH standpoint, I could live with another Edgar. But I'm talking Betances and the like.
TheNatural
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That's your opinion, but I don't think that's the case. As seen by the Braves offer to the O's that was rejected, it's not exactly low bids out there to get top players. You want a top player, you got to give up prospects, and none of the Reds prospects they've traded are even close to sure things. When you look at the numbers and what every prospect has actually accomplished, it's not like the Reds traded away the next Votto or anything.
Why is it debatable? Anyone can play baseball. Well you might not be able to, but almost anyone else can,
that rumored braves offer was bullshit, the orioles are the ones that asked for that.
Also the full asking price for jones was apparently jurrjens, Prado, and two of beachy, terehan, minor o Delgado. Lol. It doesn't hurt to ask I guess.
And Jon I posted that video at the top of the page and yes it is hilariously terrible.
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