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MLB Off-Season 2011: Only a few more weeks until the radio talks about baseball again
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talisayNon
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captmcblack
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acheron_xl
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Washington.
Depends on Darvish
Would probably be my guess as well.
I see why the Rangers could use him (Mitch Mooreland is meh) but I don't know, their offense is sick as is. But if they got the money for it, why not.
I know it won't happen, but with Victor Martinez going out, wouldn't it be sick if he was on Detroit? Miggy C and Prince back to back? I know they can't do it, and shouldn't, but it would be fucking fun to see. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Vlad went to Detroit on a 1 year deal if the Yankees don't sign him.
Does Texas really have the cash to burn like this where they will spend it no matter what? I guess there isn't much pitching left outside of someone like Edwin Jackson, but I just see their rotation as much much weaker then their offense. If someone like Fielder is out there though and you have the cash to spend then I guess I can't blame them.
The idea of Prince on the Tigers makes me want to throw up. But I assume if that happened, it'd be pretty hilarious in a couple of years when they were bogged down with all bat, no glove corner players.
Still, don't want to see it happen period.
Also: the Jack Cust signing has me hopeful the Asstros will let Mark Appel fall to the Twins. PLEASE.
It would be pretty insane to have Miggy/Prince in the same lineup. If they didn't have V-Mart it would make sense. No way I see Prince accepting a 1 year deal.
I have no doubt in my mind that they sign Darvish. It is what they set out to do and its what they need. They have the money to do both but we keep seeing that there is no way they would sign both Prince and Darvish.
If there was some disagreement between the two sides, though, then I can see them throwing the money towards Prince just to increase their offense. It would be a grand gesture to have this year be based solely on the offense with Hamilton playing his contract year. That way next year they can plan accordingly to go either pitching / CF target. Plus, I don't see why they can't sign Oswalt on a 1 year deal as well. I mean Hamilton, Prince, Napoli, Kinsler, Beltre, and Cruz sounds pretty damn good.
The two most unfit, very successful players hitting back to back would be amazing and hilarious all at the same time! I know it won't happen, and it shouldn't. Just me and my other fantasy baseball dork friends were discussing some possibilities for Prince and this one came up.
I think the most disappointing place he could end up, well from someone who likes Prince, is Seattle. I know they were in the running for a while, but that would be the least exciting situation for him that I could see happening.
That lineup would just be unfair and such a thing shouldn't be allowed in the American League.
Btw, this post is the devil.
captmcblack
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I think Prince is going to try to do a 1 year deal and retry free agency.
It's not an ideal market for him to get what he wants money-wise, and too many teams are in a good place long-term at 1B and/or DH for him to have a perfect landing spot.
It's not an ideal market for him to get what he wants money-wise, and too many teams are in a good place long-term at 1B and/or DH for him to have a perfect landing spot.
Because the Twins are going to sign him. Believe.
Good luck to yah!
As for the trivia. 1) the obvious loveable losers.... 2) This one's a toughie. I was a big AL fan when I was a young child.
Without really looking into it, I think this year is just as good as next year. Most big spending teams already have a 1st baseman locked up long term don't they? Boston, Yankees, Phillies, Angels, and Detroit already do. Other teams that don't have one signed long term don't really have a 1st baseman hitting the market next year, at least none that I can recall.
He would be the top hitter next year if he did that, but it looks like the same teams would be competing over him. But he might be able to get more if people were somehow more flexible next year. Oh, and most teams don't spend big bucks on a long term DH. Actually, has a team ever went 3+ years on a big free agent that would strictly play DH? I can't think of any really...
Piazza had a cup of coffee with the A's.
He'll sign a one year deal before he signs a 4 year deal.
Team Payroll
Teams that have a quality 1st baseman for 2012 and 2013 are bolded. I don't see any quality 1st baseman hitting the market in 2013 anyways besides Berkman, if you want to call him that at his age.
Most teams are in the same situation at 1st in 2012 that they are in for 2013. I know budgets change and trades happen, but it looks like it will be the same teams now as it will be next year.
Oh, and
- N.Y. Yankees $201,689,030
- Philadelphia 172,976,381
- Boston 161,407,476
- Los Angeles Angels 138,998,524
- Chicago White Sox 129,285,539
- Chicago Cubs 125,480,664
- New York Mets 120,147,310
- San Francisco 118,216,333
- Minnesota 112,737,000
- Detroit 105,705,232
- St. Louis 105,433,572
- Los Angeles Dodgers 103,788,990
- Texas 92,299,265
- Colorado 87,998,071
- Atlanta 87,003,192
- Seattle 86,424,600
- Milwaukee 85,497,333
- Baltimore 85,304,038
- Cincinnati 76,181,365
- Houston 70,694,000
- Oakland 66,536,500
- Washington 63,681,929
- Toronto 62,517,800
- Florida 56,944,000
- Arizona 53,639,833
- Cleveland 49,188,867
- Pittsburgh 46,047,000
- San Diego 45,869,140
- Tampa Bay 41,932,171
- Kansas City 36,126,400
Teams that have a quality 1st baseman for 2012 and 2013 are bolded. I don't see any quality 1st baseman hitting the market in 2013 anyways besides Berkman, if you want to call him that at his age.
Most teams are in the same situation at 1st in 2012 that they are in for 2013. I know budgets change and trades happen, but it looks like it will be the same teams now as it will be next year.
Oh, and
CajoleJuice
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Mr. Enigma
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Freddie Freeman's not a quality first baseman?
I'd say he's more average then good. He has the ability to be something great, but he's not there yet and probably won't be by the end of 2013.
Mr. Enigma
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21 home runs and hitting .282 in a rookie year is average? Alright.
CajoleJuice
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If you bold Freeman, you have to bold Ike.
Please be fully healthy, Ike. 
Also, this is a hilarious comment from Dave Cameron a year and a half ago.
http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/06/14/trading-cliff-lee/
Comment on June 15th, 2010 8:16 am
"Yeah, let’s limit ourselves to making just one deal for a guy who is going to be a DH and is overrated."
talisayNon
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Toolbox Dave, big surprise.
Yeah kind of. It's great for a rookie, but by the end of 2013 do I see him improving greatly from those numbers? Not really.
Could be wrong, usually am =)
Mr. Enigma
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The Rangers and Yu Darvish have agreed to a 6-year deal, likely around $55 million. They are finishing it up now.
This probably eliminates them from Prince Fielder.
This probably eliminates them from Prince Fielder.
Seems cheap. He's making about as much as Marcum is asking for.
CajoleJuice
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The $51 mil posting fee kinda puts a dent in it, I think.
CajoleJuice
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But he played so many positions without complaining. You know, besides that time he asked to be traded! MVP! /retardedRangersbeatwriter
Dmncnby2k9
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I see Fielder going to Texas. All this offseason, its been, add one big name, add another. Pitcher batter combo.
They have crazy money coming in from their TV deal. I could see them signing Fielder instead of extending Hamilton. That's what I'd do anyway.
Dmncnby2k9
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500 million won? Thats a whole lot of winnings!
yankeehater
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I really hope Texas signs Fielder. They would have a great team.
ESPN announces the first two months of Sunday Night Baseball:
April 8 ChiSox at Rangers
April 15 Angels at Yankees
April 22 Yankees at Red Sox
April 29 Rays at Rangers
May 6 Phillies at Nationals
May 13 Angels at Rangers
May 20 Cardinals at Dodgers
May 27 Nationals at Braves
June 3-July 1 TBD
July 8 Yankees at Red Sox
July 15 Cardinals at Reds
July 22-Sept. 23 TBD
I'm thinking ESPN doesn't see either Central division as being all that good.
Yankees 3 times
Rangers 3 times
Red Sox 2 times
Angels 2 times
Cardinals 2 times
White Sox 1 time
Rays 1 time
Reds 1 time
Dodgers 1 time
Phillies 1 time
Nationals 1 time
AL East 7 times
AL Central 1 time
AL West 5 times
NL East 2 times
NL Central 3 times
NL West 1 time
So actually they hate the AL Central and the NL West.
April 8 ChiSox at Rangers
April 15 Angels at Yankees
April 22 Yankees at Red Sox
April 29 Rays at Rangers
May 6 Phillies at Nationals
May 13 Angels at Rangers
May 20 Cardinals at Dodgers
May 27 Nationals at Braves
June 3-July 1 TBD
July 8 Yankees at Red Sox
July 15 Cardinals at Reds
July 22-Sept. 23 TBD
I'm thinking ESPN doesn't see either Central division as being all that good.
Yankees 3 times
Rangers 3 times
Red Sox 2 times
Angels 2 times
Cardinals 2 times
White Sox 1 time
Rays 1 time
Reds 1 time
Dodgers 1 time
Phillies 1 time
Nationals 1 time
AL East 7 times
AL Central 1 time
AL West 5 times
NL East 2 times
NL Central 3 times
NL West 1 time
So actually they hate the AL Central and the NL West.
Fuck yes!
And the one AL Central team they're showing is the one who's about to start a rebuild. Yuck.
I haven't seen an actual money figure yet. It looks like they're going to haggle the price until the deadline. Expect something in the 10-12 mill range per year.
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