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[darkside31337]

Bustah reporting the Reds have interest in Andrew Bailey. A's likewise have interest in Alonso. I think hope a Reds - Rays trade involving Alonso and a SP is more likely though.

Via Gammons
Cespedes people told club they already have an offer w/ $10M up front and eight years. "The $35-50M estimate may be light," says a GM.

 

[Sanjuro]

To the Marlins? Absolutely not. But Loria is a putz.

To any team really.

 

[bluemax]

Sad news:

Seattle Mariners outfielder Greg Halman slain

Man this sucks. I liked Greg Halman.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

shitty news about Halman. I have to say, didn't know much about him (always confused him with Saunders for some reason) but for anyone to have their life cut short at that age, when they were doing something they loved, sucks.

 

[Chris R]

Sad news:

Seattle Mariners outfielder Greg Halman slain

Just saw the news, fuck man that sucks.

 

[GaimeGuy]

rip

 

[RumblingRosco]

A kidnapping and a stabbing all in the first month of the off-season. Damn.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Looks like Halman's 22-year-old brother killed him. He's been arrested in The Netherlands.

 

[Doytch]

Can't wait to see how many MVP votes Valverde gets!

 

[The Elite]

A kidnapping and a stabbing all in the first month of the off-season. Damn.

Hockey off-season had it pretty bad too.

 

[Fenix]

Time to take a shot of Rageohol.

 

[The Elite]

If Granderson gets it, I'm leaving baseball.

Verlander or Jose FTW.

 

[Fenix]

Verlander

Young gets a 1st place vote! lolololo

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Verlander is AL MVP

 

[The Elite]

Verlander

Young gets a 1st place vote! lolololo

Expected.

 

[lazybones18]

Congrats Verlander

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

Michael Young got a first place MVP vote.

WHAT THE FUCK

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

Anybody have a problem with a starter winning it? I believe Verlander really deserves it. Most guys on MLBN believe only everyday players deserve it..

 

[The Elite]

Anybody have a problem with a starter winning it? I believe Verlander really deserves it. Most guys on MLBN believe only everyday players deserve it..

Cy Young is the MVP of pitchers. Should just be position players IMO.

 

[Doytch]

David Robertson got a vote.

 

[clemenx]

Fuck Michael Young.

Yeah, I don't have problems with pitchers getting it. Perhaps there were better choices but it wasn't because Verlander's a pitcher.

 

[darkside31337]

Anybody have a problem with a starter winning it? I believe Verlander really deserves it. Most guys on MLBN believe only everyday players deserve it..

I think a pitcher should be able to win it but I don't think Verlander deserved it.

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

Anybody have a problem with a starter winning it? I believe Verlander really deserves it. Most guys on MLBN believe only everyday players deserve it..

If he had 4 less wins, he'd be top 5 at best.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

So did Verlander miss being unanimous MVP by one vote to Young? Or were there more first ballot votes for other players?

 

[beast786]

YES YES YES

Verlander Wins The MVP

 

[Doytch]

I kinda want to see the ballots of the people who put Verlander, Ellsbury and Bautista 8th or lower. Just for the sheer hilarity.

 

[Fenix]

So did Verlander miss being unanimous MVP by one vote to Young? Or were there more first ballot votes for other players?

Bautista had 5
Ellsbury had 4
Granderson had 3
Cabrera had 2
Young had 1

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

I kinda want to see the ballots of the people who put Verlander, Ellsbury and Bautista 8th or lower. Just for the sheer hilarity.

Someone voted Bautista 9th, Ellsbury 10th.
LOL

 

[Lambtron]

I think a pitcher should be able to win it but I don't think Verlander deserved it.

This is my feeling on it. He had a very good season, but not MVP-caliber, IMO.

 

[beast786]

Bautista had 5
Ellsbury had 4
Granderson had 3
Cabrera had 2
Young had 1

I thought verlander wont win because some vote might split with Cabrera.

 

[ConradCervantes]

Wow, I never thought it would happen. Congrats to Verlander!

 

[Doytch]

The David Robertson vote is such a blatant troll. Obv the dude who gave him the Cy vote, did we figure out who that was?

I thought verlander wont win because some vote might split with Cabrera.

Nah, the whole Narrative was that the Tigers only made the playoffs because they were brought their on the muscular back of Verlander. The Narrative left no room for Avila or Cabrera or Fister or anyone else.

 

[acheron_xl]

Anybody have a problem with a starter winning it? I believe Verlander really deserves it. Most guys on MLBN believe only everyday players deserve it..

I used to think this until I realized that the average position player will have about 600-700 plate appearances a season while the average full-time starter faces over 900 batters a season.

 

[goldlion054]

Well, I guess the MVP is nice and Verlander deserves the award. Hopefully the hardware motivates him and the rest if the Tigers to make that final push into the World Series next year

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

Well, I guess the MVP is nice and Verlander deserves the award. Hopefully the hardware motivates him and the rest if the Tigers to make that final push into the World Series next year

I'm sure it's that easy.

 

[clemenx]

Lol at David Robertson showing up everywhere.

 

[lazybones18]

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

The homer that gave Michael Young a first place vote:

http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/11/justin-verlander-wins-mvp-one.html

 

[Lambtron]

Hopefully the hardware motivates him and the rest if the Tigers to make that final push into the World Series next year

I would prefer they finish 72-90 next year, but I'm biased.

 

[acheron_xl]

Lol at David Robertson showing up everywhere.

I really wonder if Robertson has some contract clause where he gets a bonus if he gets CY or MVP votes and decided to cut a local sportswriter in on it.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Okay. Who the fuck is voting for David Robertson.

 

[Doytch]

The homer that gave Michael Young a first place vote:

http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/11/justin-verlander-wins-mvp-one.html
1. Michael Young, Rangers
2. Justin Verlander, Detroit
3. Miguel Cabrera, Detroit
4. Curtis Granderson, New York
5. Jacoby Ellsbury, Boston
6. Adrian Gonzalez, Boston
7. Jose Bautista, Toronto
8. Robinson Cano, New York
9. James Shields, Tampa Bay
10. Adrian Beltre, Rangers

 

[goldlion054]

I'm sure it's that easy.

Because I totally said it would be easy, right? Go eat a dick

Just blows being on the verge and having the Rangers blow us up in the ALCS after a huge series against the Yankees. It'll be nice to have Fister for the full year and I can only hope the bats arn't so up and down like they have been for the past 3 years

 

[eznark]

Well, I guess the MVP is nice and Verlander deserves the award. Hopefully the hardware motivates him and the rest if the Tigers to make that final push into the World Series next year

Why would you want it to motivate Verlander? Not like he'll pitch in the postseason, he is way too valuable for that!

 

[Macattk15]

Man this sucks. I liked Greg Halman.

Yeah it stinks, from Lookout Landing just now ... puts it into perspective .... 24 years old .... really stinks man.

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He wasn't just a Mariners prospect on the brink of a big league career. He was the first Dutch-born, Dutch-raised, and Dutch-developed player in Major League history, and from the bottom of Geoff Baker's piece:

[Coach] Chlup said Halman was surprised that so many fans in the Czech Republic seemed to know who he was. Other than Fielder, Chlup said, Halman got the loudest reception of any player introduced to the crowds.

"He knew that, for a lot of Dutch kids, he was the one who got it done.''

Halman was one of the faces of European baseball. In one sense, he was trying to make it. In another sense, he already had.
........................................

 

[goldlion054]

Why would you want it to motivate Verlander? Not like he'll pitch in the postseason, he is way too valuable for that!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PIBS3GrOocw/TCXON_udqwI/AAAAAAAAAsg/sRdroZ76zck/s1600/laughingleyland.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

Some wounds will never stop being salted

 

[eznark]

Yeah it stinks, from Lookout Landing just now ... puts it into perspective .... 24 years old .... really stinks man.

.......................................
He wasn't just a Mariners prospect on the brink of a big league career. He was the first Dutch-born, Dutch-raised, and Dutch-developed player in Major League history
........................................

Jurrjens?

Some wounds will never stop being salted

You can get me back in spades Thursday afternoon.

 

[clemenx]

YEah, that's the first thing I thought when I read about Halman. He's probably the only Euro player who had a real chance of being a regular in the MLB for the next years. Maybe Liddi too if the M's don't find a 3B.

Jurrjens?

Curaçao raised and developed. I know he's "dutch" But baseball is part of the caribbean.

 

[Lambtron]

YEah, that's the first thing I thought when I read about Halman. He's probably the only Euro player who had a real chance of being a regular in the MLB for the next years. Maybe Liddi too if the M's don't find a 3B.


Curaçao raised and developed. I know he's "dutch" But baseball is part of the caribbean.

Max Kepler is several years away, but he's one of the best Euro prospects ever, supposedly.

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

Evan_P_Grant Evan Grant
Embarrassing to vote a guy who hit .338, 106 RBIs, played three diff. INF positions and had at least 100 Abs in 3 key lineup spots MVP?