Curacao is not the Netherlands. There have been quite a few from Curacao if I remember correctly. Andruw Jones, Wladimir Balentien, Jurrjens ... to name a few.
You always rain on things!
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MLB Off-Season 2011: Only a few more weeks until the radio talks about baseball again
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Curacao is not the Netherlands. There have been quite a few from Curacao if I remember correctly. Andruw Jones, Wladimir Balentien, Jurrjens ... to name a few.
You always rain on things!
But Jurrjens is Dutch, right? I mean, that's a fact? As far as Jones, I thought he went somewhere else to develop and was just born there?
I feel terrible for forgetting Wladimir. Just terrible.
acheron_xl
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Those are shitty reasons.
Sure. He is "Dutch". Carribean vs. Europe. Why you gotta be such a stickler!
Looking it up, Roger Bernadina and Kenley Jansen are also from Curacao.
And no, Andruw Jones signed with the Braves at Age 16 out of Curacao.
acheron_xl
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It is a dumb argument, but I believe you started it.
I post about a kids death / importance and you point out a retarded fact downplaying the role Halman may have / did play in Europeans coming to the MLB.
I absolutely started it. I wasn't downplaying anything. I thought I might be missing something about Jurrjens like he was actually born in Yugoslavia and taught baseball by Bohemians.
goldlion054
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Remember, this is Eznark you are talking about
acheron_xl
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When that happens, I hope Jack Z gives his old boss Melvin a call and offers him some Smoak.
Pfft. We're gonna need a DH still!
acheron_xl
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Branyan's a free agent!
Ninja Scooter
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I don't have a problem with it. You could actually argue that because the amount of batters Verlander faces is greater than the amount of at-bats a position player has, he could have more impact on his team's season.
Pretty much why I said "retarded". Though I honestly don't think he can fall off the face of the Earth as badly as Sexson did.
I think we could get 3 awesome years out of Fielder, Sexons barely managed 2!
hemtae
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If Pedro didn't win it, no pitcher should win it.
But I really think Ellsbury or Bautista should have won it.
Square Triangle
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Just got out of my Grandfather's funeral, he would have been going crazy to see JV get the MVP as well. Well deserved, time to bathe in that Verlander butter for a while.
Yeah, who cares about mourning the death of your Grandfather. Go bathe is Verlander butter.
If he goes to the AL I think he will be productive for at least 5 years.
This is way worse than my assy argument.
goldlion054
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hmmm, interesting point. Ponder this I must.
Martinez got robbed way back when. That's not a good reason to keep any pitcher ever from winning it; the ballot even explicitly says pitchers should be considered.
Ponder a position player playing defense and getting at bats. Not to mention running the bases. Daily.
hemtae
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Life's too short to not hold grudges.
Mr. Enigma
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Pujols had a few MVPs robbed by Barry Bonds and his expanding shoe sizes.
What did Verlander face? 725 or so? I think that's about what a guy who plays every day would get.
Pitchers don't play defense????
acheron_xl
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Yeah, in hindsight, Pedro should've gotten it over Pudge in '99.
Verlander faced 969 batters in 2011.
ConradCervantes
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Don't be an asshole. Square is the biggest Tigers poster on GAF, he's allowed to have something to cheer him up.
Sorry about your gramps, bro.
goldlion054
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At first that seems like an extraordinary number, but seems about right considering how far he went into most games
Position players affect the game more.
Verlander winning the mvp is a joke.
I guess when 5 of the last 6 CY young awards have come out of the AL Central, it shows how shitty the division is.
Look for Valverde to win the CY young and mvp award next year.
prove it
hemtae
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I think that other people should have won over Verlander, but the choice is hardly "a joke". Also, Verlander and Bautista had the same rWAR.
acheron_xl
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He didn't even lead the league, Sabathia did with 985.
Yes, KILL HIM.
goldlion054
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Jesus, what a tank. There is no way he can keep putting out seasons like that
fangraphs lol. Real nerds use br's numbers.
The writer that gave it to him is all over his nuts.
acheron_xl
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Pitchers used to do much more not so long ago, though I'm pretty sure that Gaylord Perry didn't have JV's or CC's velocity.
RumblingRosco
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I wish there was a stat for RBIs, taking into account runners stranded.
Dmncnby2k9
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So teams will get compensation if their free agents receive an offer north of 12 million. Goodbye Elias rankings.
Square Triangle
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And you are who?
Yugoslavians are most definitely not Bohemian. Don't lump them in with my awesomnity.
Mr. Enigma
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I posted all the big stuff from the CBA on Saturday. The new compensation system is a radical change.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32814793&postcount=1889
GitarooMan
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Lol at the Michael Young vote, must be the unaccounted for locker room leadership that only the Rangers beat writer could observe while stalking him all season, right? What an embarrassment.
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