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[Dmncnby2k9]

I posted all the big stuff from the CBA on Saturday. The new compensation system is a radical change.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32814793&postcount=1889

O missed that post, gotta check it out. Thanks man.

 

[McNei1y]

I'm glad Verlander got the MVP award. He did fantastic this year.

 

[Windu]

Verlander? Lol. It's debatable if he actually deserved the CY over sabathia and he wins the MVP too. I have no problem with pitchers winning, but no way verlander derseved it.

 

[rekameohs]

David Robertson got a vote for MVP. Are you kidding...?

 

[Square Triangle]

Lol at the Michael Young vote, must be the unaccounted for locker room leadership that only the Rangers beat writer could observe while stalking him all season, right? What an embarrassment.

https://twitter.com/evan_p_grant/status/138746912458285056

 

[Mr. Enigma]

David Robertson getting a Cy Young AND MVP vote is a lot more reprehensible than Michael Young getting a first-ballot MVP vote by far.

 

[jman2050]

David Robertson: MVP candidate.

 

[Windu]

I love that writer's reasoning for giving young the vote. He batted in 3 different lineup spots!

 

[CajoleJuice]

David Robertson getting a Cy Young AND MVP vote is a lot more reprehensible than Michael Young getting a first-ballot MVP vote by far.

Young: 2.4 rWAR, 3.8 fWAR
Robertson: 3.9 rWAR, 2.8 fWAR

lol

 

[acheron_xl]

I love that writer's reasoning for giving young the vote. He batted in 3 different lineup spots!

Zobrist as a top-10 player? VINDICATED.

 

[weekend_warrior]

lol @ Texeria getting a 7th place vote.

 

[The Frankman]

Also, a relief pitcher getting a MVP and Cy Young vote that's not a closer...


IN 2011

 

[darkside31337]

Honestly I'm happy Robertson got that vote. At least some voter gets the fact that being a closer doesn't mean crap. If closers can get CY / MVP votes then so can 8th inning guys. Sticking it to the man.

 

[Square Triangle]

https://twitter.com/buster_espn/status/138760941474025473

Totally agree as dont they have to submit their votes within 24 hrs of the last game of the season?

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Ryne Sandberg is returning to manage the AAA Phillies in 2012.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Darvish deserved a vote as a sign of things to come.

 

[The Frankman]

https://twitter.com/buster_espn/status/138760941474025473

Totally agree as dont they have to submit their votes within 24 hrs of the last game of the season?

That's a great point. I mean I had actually pegged Ellsbury to win earlier in September.

 

[CajoleJuice]

That's a great point. I mean I had actually pegged Ellsbury to win earlier in September.

This tweet sums it up even better:

https://twitter.com/#!/OldHossRadbourn/status/138731992572362755

 

[The Frankman]

... always gotta try to upstage me.

 

[CajoleJuice]

... always gotta try to upstage me.

You didn't post the original tweet!

 

[The Frankman]

You didn't post the original tweet!

BLARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH who needs Twitter and stuff who are you, Michael Cole?

 

[beast786]

Verlander? Lol. It's debatable if he actually deserved the CY over sabathia and he wins the MVP too. I have no problem with pitchers winning, but no way verlander derseved it.

I love to hear your case for Sabathia against verlander.

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

So, sum ppl believe Verlander didnt deserve Cy Young?. Shits crazy!

 

[CajoleJuice]

I love to hear your case for Sabathia against verlander.

Lower FIP in a tougher park and division. He beat Verlander by 0.1 fWAR.

I would have voted for Verlander, but that's the argument, I assume.

 

[Malo]

The Rangers have signed Joe Nathan. This likely means Feliz is headed to the rotation next year.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/rangers-to-sign-joe-nathan-.html

Congrats to Verlander on getting MVP. I personally would of given it to Bautista or Ellsbury.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

The Rangers have signed Joe Nathan to a 2-year deal. Neftali Feliz is moving to the rotation.

 

[Doytch]

Bout fuckin time they moved Feliz to the rotation.

 

[Sanjuro]

It's seeming pretty clear that Valentine will be our new manager.

Pros: He won't be calling Sunday Night Baseball.

Cons: He will be managing my team.

fuuuuuuuuuuu

 

[captmcblack]

My hatred of the Red Sox has to unfortunately overwrite my love of Bobby Valentine. I hope he doesn't go to Boston.

Also, Verlander as MVP is great for the technical arguments for the award, if only because it makes a pitcher a valid example again...but it probably should've been Joey Bats.

But at least it wasn't A-Gon or Chief Tacoby.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Nathan's deal is worth $14.5 million with a club option for 2014.

 

[Windu]

I love to hear your case for Sabathia against verlander.

well i still would have probably voted for Verlander but as i said it was debatable. Verlander wasn't the slam dunk that everyone said he was (probably why one of the reasons for his mvp). Verlander led in Siera so that is why i would have voted for him, FIP and xFIP favor CC though, but i prefer Siera over those two. And CC playing in the East closes the gap a little.

 

[Lambtron]

Nathan's deal is worth $14.5 million with a club option for 2014.

That's more than I would give him if I'm the GM. I'm really sad to see him leave, though. At least he isn't going to a team I hate.

Greatest closer in Twins' history.

 

[Square Triangle]

Buster reported that CC wasn't an option for the Cy Young due to influences on the younger generations of baseball fans. We have enough obesity issues in this country.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Feliz needs to bring back that splitter, if he can have that and above average speed on his fastball, everything else will be gravy.

 

[Sanjuro]

Joe Nathan is getting PAAAAID

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

Joe Nathan is getting PAAAAID

A bit too much if you ask me.

 

[darkside31337]

Amaro thinks that Nathan contract is a little ridiculous.

 

[Sanjuro]

I think it's an excellent signing by the Rangers. He is the best closer by far available if healthy...maybe they know something we don't? I just can't see him be a 100% pitcher going into the next season.

 

[RumblingRosco]

A bit too much if you ask me.

Agreed. Just a bit too much. Not the worst deal ever though.

 

[Jangocube]

Awwww yeah, Orioles going World Series!

"According to Brittany Ghiroli of MLB.com, the Orioles have signed Korean right-hander Chong Tae-Hyon.

No word on the exact terms, but MyKBO.net believes he'll get a two-year, $3.2 million deal to join the O's bullpen. Tae-Hyon, a 33-year-old submariner, had a 1.48 ERA, 16 saves and a 39/25 K/BB ratio in 54 2/3 innings for the SK Wyverns last season and tops out at around 85 mph on his fastball. He will be the first player ever to make the jump from the Korean professional league to MLB."

 

[Puddles]

My current top 10 players in baseball are:

1. Jose Bautista
2. Evan Longoria
3. Joey Votto
4. Miguel Cabrera
5. Ryan Braun
6. Albert Pujols
7. Troy Tulowitzki
8. Adrian Gonzalez
9. Dustin Pedroia
10. Ben Zobrist

Reactions, thoughts, criticisms?

Kemp not a top 10 player in baseball? Come on, man.

 

[Lambtron]

I think it's an excellent signing by the Rangers. He is the best closer by far available if healthy...maybe they know something we don't? I just can't see him be a 100% pitcher going into the next season.

Once he got sorted out about half way through the season he was solid. His velocity was down about 2 mph from 2009 and earlier, but he was still pitching well. I think he'll be great the next year or two, but I think the Rangers did overpay slightly. I hope the only saves he blows are against the Twins.

 

[rekameohs]

1. Adam Dunn
2. Carl Crawford
3. John Lackey
4. A.J. Burnett
5. Barry Zito
6. Adam Dunn
7. Manny Ramirez
8. Tony La Russa
9. Adam Dunn
10. Craig Counsell

 

[Square Triangle]

1. Adam Dunn
2. Carl Crawford
3. John Lackey
4. A.J. Burnett
5. Barry Zito
6. Adam Dunn
7. Manny Ramirez
8. Tony La Russa
9. Adam Dunn
10. Craig Counsell

I like where your head is at.

 

[RumblingRosco]

1. Adam Dunn
2. Carl Crawford
3. John Lackey
4. A.J. Burnett
5. Barry Zito
6. Adam Dunn
7. Manny Ramirez
8. Tony La Russa
9. Adam Dunn
10. Craig Counsell

Anthony La Russa Jr., J.D., should be #1, otherwise, solid list.

 

[Windu]

1. Adam Dunn
2. Carl Crawford
3. John Lackey
4. A.J. Burnett
5. Barry Zito
6. Adam Dunn
7. Manny Ramirez
8. Tony La Russa
9. Adam Dunn
10. Craig Counsell

Ryan Howard?

Kemp not a top 10 player in baseball? Come on, man.

needs to be a little more consistent. This is the first year where he has been considered one of the best in the game.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

needs to be a little more consistent. This is the first year where he has been considered one of the best in the game.

Correct. For as good as he was last season, he was awful in 2010. He needs to be consistent to be considered one of the best.

 

[Windu]

Jon Heyman's Scott Boras's predictions

Pujols 9/220
Fielder 8/195
Reyes 6/120

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/heyman-on-brewers-rangers-wilson.html

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Jon Heyman's Scott Boras's predictions

Pujols 9/220
Fielder 8/195
Reyes 6/120

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/heyman-on-brewers-rangers-wilson.html

the last 4 years of that Fielder contract would be Ryan Howard bad.

 

[Sanjuro]

the last 4 years of that Fielder contract would be Ryan Howard bad.

I don't think that is fair. Eight years is damn long time.