DUFFMCWALIN
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Ok let me rephrase that, Holy Shit Tim what the fuck?
Edit: remember he had a 5 plus era.
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MLB - Official 2012 Postseason Thread of More Wild Cards and Higher Champagne Budgets
- Thread starter Mr. Enigma
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Ok let me rephrase that, Holy Shit Tim what the fuck?
Edit: remember he had a 5 plus era.
Lol, they scored a run against him. Is that really a 'holy shit' line?
In a season where he was our worst pitcher (by far) and one of the worst pitchers in the entire league? Yea, just seeing a few 1-2-3 innings is more than enough to impress me.
EDIT: Also, Of Lincecum's first 40 pitches, 31 were strikes.
Welcome to the postseason, where Kris Medlen gets a loss, Barry Zito & Mike Leake start a playoff game, and Tim Lincecum remembers how to pitch.
At least A-Rod and Swisher are continuing their playoff incompetence to keep things even.
It's not the playoffs without overpaid Phillies striking out though.
vas_a_morir
Banned
What time is Game 5?
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
What time is Game 5?
10:35 am from what I heard.
Counterpoint: there is no way the Braves win with Chipper on the field.
Countercounterpoint: there is no way the Reds win with Dusty in the dugout.
Which makes me sad, actually.
Countercounterpoint: there is no way the Reds win with Dusty in the dugout.
Which makes me sad, actually.
The players can't play knowing he is looking at them.
HarryDemeanor
Member
Damn Reds. You guys are blowing it.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
Those Reds fans in the stands looked like meth heads. Oh Ohio.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
That was close
You should post in here more often. Stay away from gaming.
vas_a_morir
Banned
Countercounterpoint: there is no way the Reds win with Dusty in the dugout.
Which makes me sad, actually.
Will likely be his last game tomorrow, I imagine. I'm hearing he's not quite all there after the stroke.
You should post in here more often. Stay away from gaming.
I only care about sports when local teams are in playoffs, yep I'm that guy
wat
Will likely be his last game tomorrow, I imagine. I'm hearing he's not quite all there after the stroke.
Hope Boston works out well for him next year. Tougher crowd though.
I only care about sports when local teams are in playoffs, yep I'm that guy
Gary Whitta
Gary Whitta
Gary Whitta
Bucket of balls for Fredi Gonzalez and a year supply of your alcoholic beverage of choice.Will likely be his last game tomorrow, I imagine. I'm hearing he's not quite all there after the stroke.
Mr. Enigma
Member
If Lincecum pitches the 9th inning, he'll get a save.
If Lincecum pitches the 9th inning, he'll get a save.
Ugh.
Mr. Enigma
Member
What time is Game 5?
1:07 PM ET/12:07 PM local (10:07 AM on the west coast).
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
At Yankee Stadium!
Will likely be his last game tomorrow, I imagine. I'm hearing he's not quite all there after the stroke.
Kinda sad.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
Will likely be his last game tomorrow, I imagine. I'm hearing he's not quite all there after the stroke.
:/ poor guy.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Will likely be his last game tomorrow, I imagine. I'm hearing he's not quite all there after the stroke.
Source on that?
HarryDemeanor
Member
This game is over.
LET'S GO SHOWALTERS!
LET'S GO SHOWALTERS!
This game makes me pissed off that Barry Zito earned the win pitching 3 damn innings.
lol 2.2, 76 pitches, 6.75 ERA.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
This game makes me pissed off that Barry Zito earned the win pitching 3 damn innings.
I thought you couldn't win a game unless you pitched 5 innings and leave with the lead?
Mr. Enigma
Member
This game makes me pissed off that Barry Zito earned the win pitching 3 damn innings.
Zito can't earn the win. A starter has to go 5 innings to earn a win. If a starter leaves with the lead but didn't go 5 innings, the win goes to the relief pitcher that did the best work at the discretion of the official scorer. Tim Lincecum's likely going to be credited for the win if he doesn't pitch the 9th.
Will likely be his last game tomorrow, I imagine. I'm hearing he's not quite all there after the stroke.
From who? Everything I've read has been pointing to the opposite.
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really? I thought it was the last reliever in before the lead change.the win goes to the relief pitcher that did the best work at the discretion of the official scorer.
Mr. Enigma
Member
really? I thought it was the last reliever in before the lead change.
Never heard that. I've always heard it was the most effective reliever to be decided by the official scorer.
I thought you couldn't win a game unless you pitched 5 innings and leave with the lead?
I suppose I meant to say that they've not lost in 12 straight Zito appearances. Regardless of how he pithces, they seem to win with him on the mound. Maybe their offense know that they need runs and they play extra hard or something lol.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
I suppose I meant to say that they've not lost in 12 straight Zito appearances. Regardless of how he pithces, they seem to win with him on the mound. Maybe their offense know that they need runs and they play extra hard or something lol.
I getcha now. Lol I would assume this is the case.
Don't use all of the hits up now Giants!!!
really? I thought it was the last reliever in before the lead change.
Except there was no lead change. Giants always led after Zito's exit.
Never heard that. I've always heard it was the most effective reliever to be decided by the official scorer.
hmm looks like you are right.10.17 Winning And Losing Pitcher
(a) The official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher that pitcher whose team assumes a lead while such pitcher is in the game, or during the inning on offense in which such pitcher is removed from the game, and does not relinquish such lead, unless
(1) such pitcher is a starting pitcher and Rule 10.17(b) applies; or
(2) Rule 10.17(c) applies.
Rule 10.17(a) Comment: Whenever the score is tied, the game becomes a new contest insofar as the winning pitcher is concerned. Once the opposing team assumes the lead, all pitchers who have pitched up to that point and have been replaced are excluded from being credited with the victory. If the pitcher against whose pitching the opposing team gained the lead continues to pitch until his team regains the lead, which it holds to the finish of the game, that pitcher shall be the winning pitcher.
(b) If the pitcher whose team assumes a lead while such pitcher is in the game, or during the inning on offense in which such pitcher is removed from the game, and does not relinquish such lead, is a starting pitcher who has not completed
(1) five innings of a game that lasts six or more innings on defense, or
(2) four innings of a game that lasts five innings on defense, then the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the relief pitcher, if there is only one relief pitcher, or the relief pitcher who, in the official scorer’s judgment was the most effective, if there is more than one relief pitcher.
Rule 10.17(b) Comment: It is the intent of Rule 10.17(b) that a relief pitcher pitch at least one complete inning or pitch when a crucial out is made, within the context of the game (including the score), in order to be credited as the winning pitcher. If the first relief pitcher pitches effectively, the official scorer should not presumptively credit that pitcher with the win, because the rule requires that the win be credited to the pitcher who was the most effective, and a subsequent relief pitcher may have been most effective. The official scorer, in determining which relief pitcher was the most effective, should consider the number of runs, earned runs and base runners given up by each relief pitcher and the context of the game at the time of each relief pitcher’s appearance. If two or more relief pitchers were similarly effective, the official scorer should give the presumption to the earlier pitcher as the winning pitcher.
(c) The official scorer shall not credit as the winning pitcher a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when at least one succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain its lead. In such a case, the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the succeeding relief pitcher who was most effective, in the judgment of the official scorer.
Rule 10.17(c) Comment: The official scorer generally should, but is not required to, consider the appearance of a relief pitcher to be ineffective and brief if such relief pitcher pitches less than one inning and allows two or more earned runs to score (even if such runs are charged to a previous pitcher). Rule 10.17(b) Comment provides guidance on choosing the winning pitcher from among several succeeding relief pitchers.
(d) A losing pitcher is a pitcher who is responsible for the run that gives the winning team a lead that the winning team does not relinquish.
Rule 10.17(d) Comment: Whenever the score is tied, the game becomes a new contest insofar as the losing pitcher is concerned.
(e) A league may designate a non-championship game (for example, the Major League All-Star Game) for which Rules 10.17(a)(1) and 10.17(b) do not apply. In such games, the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher that pitcher whose team assumes a lead while such pitcher is in the game, or during the inning on offense in which such pitcher is removed from the game, and does not relinquish such lead, unless such pitcher is knocked out after the winning team has attained a commanding lead and the official scorer concludes that a subsequent pitcher is entitled to credit as the winning pitcher.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/official_scorer_10.jsp
yeah when there is no lead change but the starter doesn't go 5 it is up to the scorer, if there is a lead change and the starter doesn't go 5 it goes to the last pitcher in before it.
yeah good point, i was thinking of it being tied or them behind. (i was thinking zito was pitching not bizzaro zito). anyway this all proves how dumb the pitcher win is.Except there was no lead change. Giants always led.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
Casilla <_<
lazybones18
Banned
Time for a REAL baseball game to start >.>
Mr. Enigma
Member
Time for a REAL baseball game to start >.>
Giving that line another shot, eh?
vas_a_morir
Banned
Time for a REAL baseball game to start >.>
This last game was about as real as it gets.
Honestly, God is indeed cruel to set up such a devastating disappointment. But, Is God so cruel as to set up an even worse painful descent into tearville for Giants fans? I'm going to re-read the Old Testament to get some hope for tomorrow.
evil solrac v3.0
Member
let's do this.
Mr. Enigma
Member
I wanted the guy to fuck off when he played for the Braves, but I'm glad to see Nate McLouth resurrecting his career with the Orioles. I was excited for that trade but it never panned out. Thankfully the biggest piece ATL gave up for him was Charlie Morton, lol.
vas_a_morir
Banned
let's do this.
If the Yankees hate the O's half as much as they hate civil servants, this will be a bloodbath.
He had a bad year, especially by his standards, but he was extremely unlucky. His FIP was a full run lower than his ERA, and his xFIP was 30 points lower than that. His ERA & FIP were the worst on the staff, but his xFIP was exactly the same as Matt Cain's, only behind Bumgarner.In a season where he was our worst pitcher (by far) and one of the worst pitchers in the entire league? Yea, just seeing a few 1-2-3 innings is more than enough to impress me.
EDIT: Also, Of Lincecum's first 40 pitches, 31 were strikes.
One of the worst pitchers in the entire league? Having watched the worst staff in MLB like 80 times this year, I can assure you, he's not even close.