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[Windu]

I don't have a good feeling about this game. Our offense needs to wake up.

 

[CygnusXS]

Getting beaten by the Pittsburgh Martes.

 

[Windu]

get your hanging breaking balls. on sale from the braves pitching staff.

 

[weekend_warrior]

You must love Ryan Howard's contract.

Why would that be?

 

[Y2Kev]

So boston wasn't kidding when they were horrible lol

 

[xbhaskarx]

Yeah you're right. When the Angels are watching the playoffs from home at least they can hold their heads high knowing they won more games then the Tigers. Cause really, that's all that matters. Making the playoffs? Who cares. When all is said and done the only thing people will remember about this season is that the Angels won more games. The Tigers could go on to win the World Series, but nobody will care, because the Angels won more games. TROUT4MVP ANGELS WON MORE GAMES GUYS.

You must love the 2006 Cardinals, they made the playoffs as division winners (and won the World Series) with a 83-78 regular season record. Who cares about winning games that is for chumps... playoffs with minimal effort! World Champions of being mediocre!!

 

[Jangocube]

I think the entire stadium at Tropicana is filled with O's fans.

Huh?

Before this season we could rarely fill OUR stadium with O's fans.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

Huh?

Before this season we could rarely fill OUR stadium with O's fans.

Amazing what winning can do for a club.

Except for the Rays, apparently.

 

[zulux21]

heh heh... I think the white sox have more hits with RISP today then they did the entire Rays series (4 games) lol

 

[lazybones18]

Mauer getting closer to Miggy's BA

 

[weekend_warrior]

You must love the 2006 Cardinals, they made the playoffs as division winners (and won the World Series) with a 83-78 regular season record. Who cares about winning games that is for chumps... playoffs with minimal effort! World Champions of being mediocre!!

Wow. You're actually insulting a team that won the world series because they didn't win the most game during the regular season. Even though they won the WS. You actually think winning the most games during the regular season is more important then winning the World Series.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

O's tied it up.

 

[Jangocube]

O's tied it up.

Weiters!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CygnusXS]

I think w_w is trolling us guys.

 

[Little Green Yoda]

Wow. You're actually insulting a team that won the world series because they didn't win the most game during the regular season. Even though they won the WS. You actually think winning the most games during the regular season is more important then winning the World Series.

Winning in the playoffs is more about being the hottest team in October than being the best team in baseball. Even with unbalanced schedules, a 162 game season is probably a better indicator of which team is the best than a couple weeks of games. The 2006 Cards team gets unfairly ragged upon re: their regular season record since they dealt with a lot of injuries and were mostly the same team as the 100+ win teams in 2004/2005. But even I acknowledge that they benefited from a really good stretch of pitching from unlikely sources (Jeff Weaver <3) that probably wasn't sustainable over a full season.

 

[talisayNon]

O's fuck yes!!!

Miguel Cabrera is MVP if he's the Triple Crown winner hands down.

Quit hating

 

[Windu]

one last post about this stupid topic

On Base Percentage (OBP) + Slugging Percentage (SLG) is On-Base Slugging (OPS).

OPS+ is a more advanced version of OPS. It is park adjusted. So it adjusts for the differences between Coors Field and Petco Park.

now what I wanted to get to was wOBA. wOBA is a weighted version of OPS. It adjusts for the fact that not all hits are equal. A single is more valuable than a walk etc....

Now which brings me to wRC+. it is wOBA's version of OPS+. It take into account park factors and because its based on wOBA its weighted correctly.

Sorry I had to go through all that, but basically wRC+ is the best offensive statistic to look at.

And what does it tell you about the Trout vs. Cabrera debate?

Trout wRC+ 172
Cabrera wRC+ 163

Trout is having the better offensive season. Combine that with his fielding and baserunning. He is the MVP.

Ok i'm done now. I can't make this argument any clearer.

 

[lazybones18]

O's tied it up.

That might be short lived very soon

 

[Malo]

Weekend warrior's views are no way associated with the views of the yankees council.

Trout for GOAT!

 

[Windu]

McCann is slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww

 

[Square Triangle]

one last post about this stupid topic

On Base Percentage (OBP) + Slugging Percentage (SLG) is On-Base Slugging (OPS).

OPS+ is a more advanced version of OPS. It is park adjusted. So it adjusts for the differences between Coors Field and Petco Park.

now what I wanted to get to was wOBA. wOBA is a weighted version of OPS. It adjusts for the fact that not all hits are equal. A single is more valuable than a walk etc....

Now which brings me to wRC+. it is wOBA's version of OPS+. It take into account park factors and because its based on wOBA its weighted correctly.

Sorry I had to go through all that, but basically wRC+ is the best offensive statistic to look at.

And what does it tell you about the Trout vs. Cabrera debate?

Trout wRC+ 172
Cabrera wRC+ 163

Trout is having the better offensive season. Combine that with his fielding and baserunning. He is the MVP.

Ok i'm done now. I can't make this argument any clearer.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Braves getting 2-hit by Pirates scrubs through 7 innings. Awesome.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Weekend warrior's views are no way associated with the views of the yankees council.

Trout for GOAT!

You mean to tell me Jeter didn't deserve those gold glove awards because of his grit and clutch?

 

[weekend_warrior]

Winning in the playoffs is more about being the hottest team in October than being the best team in baseball. Even with unbalanced schedules, a 162 game season is probably a better indicator of which team is the best than a couple weeks of games. The 2006 Cards team gets unfairly ragged upon re: their regular season record since they dealt with a lot of injuries and were mostly the same team as the 100+ win teams in 2004/2005. But even I acknowledge that they benefited from a really good stretch of pitching from unlikely sources (Jeff Weaver <3) that probably wasn't sustainable over a full season.

It's a bit of both. Teams can get fat by being in weak divisions- The Mariners did it a few years ago when the won like 110 and got crushed in the playoffs, the Yankees did it a lot from 2000-2010 when the O's, Rays and Jays all sucked. But in the playoffs you only see good teams, yes teams can get unlucky and get bounced early, yes teams can get lucky or hot and go deep, but usually it's the better time to see which team has grit and which team is just faking it.

 

[Windu]

Braves getting 2-hit by Pirates scrubs through 7 innings. Awesome.

Medlen is going to throw 9 perfect innings on Friday and the braves will lose 1-0.

 

[lazybones18]

How bout dem Rays?

 

[Carlbeego]

Hell yeah Rays!

 

[Little Green Yoda]

Medlen is going to throw 9 perfect innings on Friday and the braves will lose 1-0.

The Dodgers aren't winning that second WC spot.

 

[Malo]

You mean to tell me Jeter didn't deserve those gold glove awards because of his grit and clutch?

Jeter deserved those gold gloves for his high fade alone.

Fuck yeah tampa.

 

[weekend_warrior]

one last post about this stupid topic

On Base Percentage (OBP) + Slugging Percentage (SLG) is On-Base Slugging (OPS).

OPS+ is a more advanced version of OPS. It is park adjusted. So it adjusts for the differences between Coors Field and Petco Park.

now what I wanted to get to was wOBA. wOBA is a weighted version of OPS. It adjusts for the fact that not all hits are equal. A single is more valuable than a walk etc....

Now which brings me to wRC+. it is wOBA's version of OPS+. It take into account park factors and because its based on wOBA its weighted correctly.

Sorry I had to go through all that, but basically wRC+ is the best offensive statistic to look at.

And what does it tell you about the Trout vs. Cabrera debate?

Trout wRC+ 172
Cabrera wRC+ 163

Trout is having the better offensive season. Combine that with his fielding and baserunning. He is the MVP.

Ok i'm done now. I can't make this argument any clearer.

Look hard enough and you can find a sabermetric to prove anything. I never said Trout wasn't great, and I never said Miggy's stats blow him away, they're very close. All I said was that based on the common batting stats, used for a hundred years, Miggy slightly edges Trout. And because Miggy's contributions helped get the Tigers into the playoffs (WHICH I CONSIDER AN IMPORTANT FACTOR IN MVP CONSIDERATION), that Miggy should win AL MVP.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Medlen is going to throw 9 perfect innings on Friday and the braves will lose 1-0.

How can Medlen throw a perfect game but give up a run?

 

[Windu]

How can Medlen throw a perfect game but give up a run?

9 perfect innings, and bullpen allows a run in the 10th.

 

[Carlbeego]

Jeter deserved those gold gloves for his high fade alone.

Fuck yeah tampa.

Yankees have yet to win a Jeter era title with a low Jeter fade.

We need that flat top back.

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

one last post about this stupid topic

On Base Percentage (OBP) + Slugging Percentage (SLG) is On-Base Slugging (OPS).

OPS+ is a more advanced version of OPS. It is park adjusted. So it adjusts for the differences between Coors Field and Petco Park.

now what I wanted to get to was wOBA. wOBA is a weighted version of OPS. It adjusts for the fact that not all hits are equal. A single is more valuable than a walk etc....

Now which brings me to wRC+. it is wOBA's version of OPS+. It take into account park factors and because its based on wOBA its weighted correctly.

Sorry I had to go through all that, but basically wRC+ is the best offensive statistic to look at.

And what does it tell you about the Trout vs. Cabrera debate?

Trout wRC+ 172
Cabrera wRC+ 163

Trout is having the better offensive season. Combine that with his fielding and baserunning. He is the MVP.

Ok i'm done now. I can't make this argument any clearer.

holy crap, i gotta save this for future reference.

 

[Jangocube]

You mean to tell me Jeter didn't deserve those gold glove awards because of his grit and clutch?

Grit is highly underrated.

And Tampa, I love your organization, but come on broski's, we don't need this right now.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

9 perfect innings, and bullpen allows a run in the 10th.

So Kimbrel loses it?

 

[harSon]

Getting beaten by the Pittsburgh Martes.

Can't wait to see him play a full season next year.

 

[Windu]

So Kimbrel loses it?

uggla error that allows jon jay to run all the way around the bases.

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

damn line drive HR for Stanton, guy is powerful! didnt think that was goin out.

 

[darkside31337]

Good can't wait for the Orioles to lose. Fuck em.

 

[Malo]

Yankees have yet to win a Jeter era title with a low Jeter fade.

We need that flat top back.

We're going to have to start a hair donation fund if we want it to come back.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

Good can't wait for the Orioles to lose. Fuck em.

Sorry about your team, man. I have no doubt the Rays would have had a chance if the O's hadn't swept them a few weeks back.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Yankees have yet to win a Jeter era title with a low Jeter fade.

We need that flat top back.

that's never coming back. Jeter has lost a lot of hair.

 

[Windu]

Peter Moylan is going to blow this game open.

edit: maybe not.

 

[darkside31337]

Sorry about your team, man. I have no doubt the Rays would have had a chance if the O's hadn't swept them a few weeks back.

Seasons not over yet!

 

[endresults]

Miggy HR.

 

[Windu]

ok braves, score some runs please.

 

[weekend_warrior]

Seasons not over yet!

Not when you can switch teams on the fly.

 

[Malo]

Seasons not over yet!

You are scum.

 

[Square Triangle]

Miggy HR.