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Dipz

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So there's a media conference call happening tomorrow regarding some "big news" for Fight Pass. Don't get too jazzed though, from what I'm told it's just going to be the announcement of the first Invicta card on the service which is expected to happen in September.

That's an MMA-GAF exclusive.
 
So two guys in Mousassi and Souza that UFC should be building up since they are the prominent fighters at MW are put on some obscure card.....awesome.
 

Dipz

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So two guys in Mousassi and Souza that UFC should be building up since they are the prominent fighters at MW are put on some obscure card.....awesome.
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dream

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As we finish the first six months of the year, you can’t help but note what is going on right now with both WWE and UFC in regard to reaction in a changing business environment.

From a traditional business metric point of view, WWE has been pretty stable this year, throwing out the change in delivery of PPV and the implementation of the network. Its business has changed completely. But its popularity has stayed at relatively the same level. Television ratings are remarkably close to last year, down only slightly. Live attendance also remains steady. Live merchandise is down a little but web site merchandise is up.

WWE is also making talent changes with a very clear picture. For better or worse, the company is making a clear transition from John Cena to Roman Reigns as the face of the company, while keeping Cena in the superstar emeritus position in a role as “the greatest champion in WWE history.” Other young talent is emerging, most notably Bray Wyatt, who may have the potential to be a Dusty Rhodes caliber babyface. The in-ring action is as good as it’s ever been, and big shows have been consistently delivering for months.

If you look at UFC, you don’t come to the same conclusion. PPV, long the company’s most important revenue stream, is way down this year. Television viewership is also way down, but a lot of that is due to a change in station. They have nobody on the horizon that you can point to and say has a good chance to become a new major star. For 2015, it’s still this year’s stars, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey and Cain Velasquez, with hoped for returns of Georges St-Pierre and Anderson Silva, and a hope that Chris Weidman or Anthony Pettis catch on, and hopes that a new champion may come from a foreign land to ignite business. Still, past Conor McGregor in Ireland, who is unproven against top competition, we don’t have that guy anywhere.

Both companies are at their very core about developing stars. With WWE television being watched by millions, you have the vehicle to do so. For UFC, fewer viewers means what in 2010 may have been a star creating performance like what Matt Brown did with Erick Silva, may not have had much impact. In fact, that’s where the 7/26 FOX show really comes into play, because if Brown gained something big, and he had the performance, attitude and unique charisma to be a cult star, it should show up in the FOX ratings.

Yes, while WWE is making cuts everywhere, UFC is making cuts nowhere, and Dana White is saying that people who think things aren’t doing great don’t understand a changing business. He’s saying it is now an international sport with events around the globe and that things are stronger than ever.

Still, there is one point that is hard to get out of my mind. It’s that anecdotal evidence people often use, but are often wrong, except when the big picture numbers back it up.

From 2006 to 2010, and still to a lesser extent through 2013, the night of a big UFC show was a big deal here. People would come over. They’d know the key matches and know most of the fighters. If I was away covering a show, we still often had a packed house, particularly if it was someone like Brock Lesnar or GSP on top. Those days are over. I may have a friend or two come over for UFC shows, and there are times nobody does. No biggie; almost nobody ever comes over for TNA and only a few show up for WWE these days, when it used to be packed during the heyday of WWE and WCW. But what I just said about UFC, evidence of nothing, is something that, if I say it to any MMA fan who used to watch with groups, they all say, “That’s the same for me.”

Obviously, running 50 shows is going to dilute viewership per show. It’s like Major League Baseball or the NBA. Ratings for individual games are way down because so many more games air. It’s not about big ratings for most regular events, it’s about providing live sports programming that will deliver a core audience in a far more competitive sports environment. But those sports, while game ratings suffer, more than make up for it due to monster TV contracts.

UFC numbers on FS 1 are nothing like they were on Spike, and they are, with the exception of NASCAR or a major college football game, the highest rated programming on the station. The audience is down. The vehicle to promote shows, like Prime Times, without being on FX, is down to the point they no longer do series. Prime Times put in a position where a lot of viewers can see it are a strong catalyst in building monster PPVs. As much as people knock studying of Google trends, they are a tremendous tool to find out who people care about, who are stars, and rise and fall of popularity of stars, as well as on big events, who and what people most are interested in mainstream. What’s been hurt in UFC is not the top tier stars, who were as big as ever last year, but the secondary stars dropped badly.

In the U.S., WWE and UFC were neck-and-neck in 2010. In 2013, WWE had a huge edge. In theory, more shows would mean more regular interest in UFC, but that hasn’t been the case. With the lack of the big money matches this year, WWE’s interest level is more than two-and-a-half times that of UFC, even if UFC as a company is said to be worth more than double WWE because of the value of a sports franchise due to the belief in skyrocketing TV rights. In Canada, where UFC had a gigantic edge for years, the loss of GSP had brought the two companies to being neck-and-neck so far this year after UFC was 53% ahead in 2013.

But, WWE, as a public company, there is no mistaking the financial problems caused by a lower than expected new television deal and the costs of the new network. The company is expected to finish the year deeply in the red. For all the positive product-wise, the WWE in 2014 is expected to end the year losing more money than any year in its history, and losing more money in a calendar year than any pro wrestling company in history with the exception of WCW in 2000.

UFC as a private company, little can be fully examined. Brazil, while also down from its peak as far as TV ratings and instantly selling out live events, still does huge ratings when on network television outside of prime time. The UFC strategy of live events in different parts of the world on prime time TV on good stations leads to gains in popularity in those markets makes sense. But even so, you at worst want to hold steady in your mature markets while building new ones. They are not holding steady in the U.S. and Canada, and in fact in a major popularity fall. But with a guaranteed TV contract, the effect of that fall may not be hurting them financially. That’s the opposite of WCW, where the TV money was low and the decline in core business killed the company. But how much of a factor is the Spike to FX to FS 1 dynamic in that? But the deal also includes four shows on FOX that should have expanded the casual audience and made new fans.

As a sport and not WWE, are they able to garner big international television revenues? If a U.S. decline is offset by international growth, that would be an argument there is a big picture. But I don’t know how a decline in U.S. and Canadian popularity could be part of a long-term growth plan, even if they are profitable and have a big safety net. Ticket sales for live events are still good, but with the absence of the big fights they are also way down. When we see merchandise sale numbers at UFC live events, they are excellent. Ratings can’t be fairly compared and PPV is based on main events, and this year they haven’t had strong ones.

Still, for the first six months of last year, the six PPV events generated $16.24 million in revenue, or $2,706,618 per show. For this year, through the end of June, that number is $10.99 million, or $1,831,475 per show, or a 32 percent drop. For PPV over the same six month period, they went from 2.78 million buys, or 463,000 per show, to 1.54 million, or 257,000 per show, or a 45 percent drop. Still, with the exception of just how bad the Demetrious Johnson vs. Ali Bagautinov fight did, none of this year’s numbers were any lower than I’d have expected those same shows to have done in 2013, past had Ronda Rousey vs. Sara McMann taken place in early 2013 in February, it probably would have done the 100,000 more buys Rousey vs. Liz Carmouche did based on the novelty and huge amount of media publicity.

But Rousey on her own looks to be a 350,000 consistent player, partially because of limitations of challengers. Whether her quick finishes will help or hurt is hard to say. People used to say the first round knockouts were a disappointment in the Mike Tyson days because people paid so much money, but he drew huge for years. But a guy knockout artist with an aura where people are buying for devastation is not the same thing as a woman who they are buying because he’s a star.

Jon Jones, the other big draw active this year, clearly declined after the canceled UFC event, past a big number with Chael Sonnen, and there’s nobody who can duplicate Sonnen’s ability to build a fight. With the exception of Cain Velasquez, who is injured, nobody else on the current roster is even at their level (the value of Chris Weidman will be better evaluated in a few weeks; as we’ve never seen him headline as champion without Anderson Silva, but even if UFC 175 does a big number, it’s a combination of Weidman and Rousey and where Weidman stands going forward is still uncertain). Last year, all were well behind GSP and Silva.

For FOX, with only two shows, the sample size is too small. But this is significant because the big superstars don’t fight on FOX, and it’s the second tier stars. Last year’s first two shows averaged a 2.31 rating and a $1.32 million average gate, which were main events of Demetrious Johnson vs. John Dodson (and Rampage Jackson had a lot to do with that one) and Benson Henderson vs. Gilbert Melendez, both title fights. This year’s two shows averaged a 1.75 rating and $1.21 million average gate (helped by just how big Orlando’s response to its first UFC was), with main events of Benson Henderson vs. Josh Thomson, not a title fight, and Fabricio Werdum vs. Travis Browne, also not a title fight. But it’s a 24 percent drop in ratings. But they were also weaker shows with no Rampage this year nor any title fights.

Besides, the key is not live events in new markets as much as television exposure and events in new markets. Running once a year in New Zealand, for example, and drawing a $913,000 gate is all well and good if it leads to making new fans, but that’s television exposure, not a live show that 8,089 people came to. The key to expanding the TV audience is well promoted shows in prime time on good outlets that people watch.

For example, the last London show, yes, it sold out, but they’ve sold out London for years. The key was it was on Ch. 5 in prime time, an over-the-air station that reaches tons more people than their BT Sports deal does. It gave them the ability to reach a new audience, and if they did well, they would have five slots a year on that station. On paper, all looked great. But the rating wasn’t there, and they haven’t been back on Ch. 5 since. But there are always going to be hits and misses.

Dana White is saying things have never been better. There are no indications like in WWE of cutbacks. In fact, White was talking this week about how the company is going to build a new office complex in Las Vegas, which would include studios, a workout gym, and the Ultimate Fighter gym will be part of the facility.

As far as long-term goes, UFC is dependent more on what kind of rights fees it can get from television. Ratings are important, as is the value and prestige of the brand and the economic situation from television at the time the deals comes due in 2017. White talked about their network as a game changer as well. But no matter what is said publicly, there has to be concern about the drop in popularity and a fan base that is having trouble keeping up with the names and number of shows.

As for WWE, unlike WCW, and other money losing companies who usually got that way due to failing to connect with their audience and rapid interest losses and fade away, there is no such issue with WWE. The losses are likely temporary, since they are due to the implementation and start-up of the network. The network is likely to grow economically in time, probably significantly. Will it reach the levels WWE predicted, or analysts predicted? That is too soon to say. But it will increase significantly from present levels as people accept new technology. The cultural direction stemming from the lead of Netflix is that consumers are more willing to accept over-the-top services. The key to watch is if and when Netflix plateaus, because that would be the harbinger of the WWE network plateauing down the line. They are having a temporary rocky financial road. Long-term, as long as the fan base is stable, and it is, the machinery to create new stars is in order, which it also is, the prospects down the line are healthy.

WWE has worldwide popularity. It is still very conceivable that in 2016, when consumers will have less aversion to services like this, that it could be an overwhelming success even with the somewhat disappointing early returns. And there is still an international rollout for next year. No matter what percentage of current network viewers are from outside the U.S., and the number is clearly considerable, that is the hardcore audience that has learned to bypass geographically blocked services. The WWE hasn’t even started a heavy marketing push in foreign markets, although there is an argument that the constant talk of the network on the television shows that air in every English language country does constitute a huge push.

But there is no mistaking that there are problems right now financially, with major cost cutting going on. The cutting of wrestlers a few weeks ago to help cut back on expected losses was just the tip of the iceberg.

A few different sources have pegged that Vince McMahon was ordering major cuts throughout the company. The number being bandied about is cuts that would total $20 million, so that the losses for 2014 are down significantly from the $45 million to $53 million projected.

Among the changes being looked at include some first class flyers flying coach, a new policy on international travel is being implemented, and there is talk of scaling back, but not eliminating, catering. In addition, there is a hiring slowdown as it regards original budgetary plans in the developmental sector.

While TV ratings and live show attendance are still important barometers of company popularity, from a financial standpoint, from this point forward, it lives and dies based on the network.

Essentially, the company will need, at a steady state, about 1.3 million to 1.4 million monthly subscribers worldwide to break even. Perhaps with the heavy cuts, that number may fall slightly. To get to previous levels of financial success, they need to get closer to 1.9 million subscribers. Once the number tops 2 million, unless unexpected costs arise (and there have been a lot of them with the network not expected going in), the company will be in its most financially healthy state it has ever been.

The business now, and going forward, is all about the subscriber numbers. PPV is going away quickly in the U.S., and the rest of the world follows suit next year. TV income is what it is for the next several years. Even in a period where sports rights fees have gone through the roof and entertainment rights fees have also gone up significantly, WWE did not get a major increase. Television is a strong revenue source, but the number is not going to escalate greatly. House shows, merchandise and licensing, categories the company had been built around for the past three decades, are now minor sectors. Popularity increases will help them, but the key is still today and for the foreseeable future, network subscriptions.

Raw on 7/7 made no bones about it. The entire television show felt like a commercial to get fans who haven’t sampled the network, to try it out, for a free week, just by sending in an e-mail address. They noted that you don’t even have to give a credit card number.

Raw pushed the free week, promoting not just the old PPVs, every WrestleMania including this year, the recent Money in the Bank show, as well as the prime time schedule for the week. This included debuting the first Monday Night War first episode. The series will become a regular weekly multi-episode show in a few weeks. This was a preview trying to use it to get new subscribers now by offering it in the free week.

They also uploaded a number of Saturday Night’s Main Event, somewhat loading up on the Tuesday almost live Main Event show pushing a talk segment with Chris Jericho and Bret Hart, as well as pushing a replay of the great Warrior documentary. More episodes of SNME will be uploaded shortly, but after the free week. They pushed a 90 percent consumer satisfaction survey (which sounds believable because if you are a wrestling fan, it’s a bargain). Obviously, the idea of making it as easy as possible for those who haven’t tried to watch for free is a way to get paid subscriber numbers up starting next week from those who tried it out. The timing of now is to pump up the subscriber numbers since the second announcement will be made on or around 8/1, and a weak number will hurt the stock price. The timing if they get people buying the network on 7/14, when the trial ends, is that their subscriptions would run out on 1/14, or right before the Royal Rumble.

They need to have a number that at least indicates they will hit 1 million subscribers by the end of the year. One could come to the conclusion watching Raw that this hard sell was an indication they aren’t on track and it’s a desperation move to close the gap. But the marketing strategy was always to offer occasional free weeks, and pushing that you can watch it on your TV set and making it as simple for people to try it out should have been part of the marketing.

There is no question WWE has a loyal audience. The only question is, how many fans worldwide numbers are willing to pay for this service? Even if they hit 1 million by December, is the number of people interested and those who will break down the mental barrier to order in 2015 large enough to hit 2 million by July, the original projection? Maybe not. Can they hit 1.4 million by July of next year with expected early year international growth? That’s plausible, but 1.4 million by July would only make 2015 into a break-even year. For a company hitting $50 million in profits annually, and paying out $36 million a year in dividends, a break-even year is not a success when the year was originally projected to be the single most profitable year in the history of the company. But if it’s just a slower gain, and they get there in 2016, it’s still a success. The next number will tell a story regarding short-term, but to make any kind of educated guess about long-term past thoughts about what percentage of homes that watch WWE television are willing to pay extra for more content, which is ultimately what will determine what the final number is. People who don’t watch Raw are not going to get the network in any significant numbers.

For 2015 to be as profitable as the company was before they started spending on the network, they need to hit the 1.9 million figure as a full year average, meaning growing the first half of the year, hitting it by mid-year, and continuing to grow at the same rate until the end of the year. It seems unlikely but this is uncharted waters. While the service can always improve, the key question in the long run is not consumers being mentally willing to buy an over-the-top network. In time, and very quickly, that will happen. Baseball has already been successful at this. All sports will be doing so.

The question is whether WWE has enough fans around the world willing to pay $9.99 per month for extra programming, to hit and maintain the numbers in question. A 667,000 number after months of hard selling to get WrestleMania at a bargain price is an indication it won’t be easy. An announcement of 850,000 subscribers isn’t what I’d call great, since you need 1.4 million by next July just for the company to break-even. But it would be okay.

Given how hard the network has been pushed, the hotshot marketing, the quality of the PPV shows and the timing of the Ultimate Warrior death, a number at less than 850,000 would not be good.

But amidst all the hype are significant signs of cutting not just within the company, but on first-run programming for the network itself, which means second thoughts are being made as far as the value vs. cost of new first-run non-traditional wrestling programming.

The remake of Tough Enough was scheduled to start filming this week at the performance center in Orlando. We had heard last week that it was no longer a certainty it would be done, and if it was, the production budget was going to be greatly cut. Then, on around 7/3, the people working on the show were told filming was being postponed until October.

The idea had been for a second season of Legends House to go into production in October. There is some question whether there will be a second season. The first season was, except for PPVs, the most-watched thing most weeks on the network. One source in a country where Legends House aired on television noted that WWE sent them word that there would not be a second season of the show. Another WWE source said that there would be a second season, but filming would be delayed until after the completion of Tough Enough, probably not until early next year.

The reality shows are the most expensive things on the network. Legends House was done two years ago so its costs aren’t even recognized on this year’s books. But these are multi-million dollar shows. We know that Total Divas cost $400,000 per episode. So if you do a ten week shoot for a show like that, it’s a $4 million cost over a ten week first run airing. A $4 million show over ten weeks, to be cost effective, would require such a show to bring in 200,000 new subscribers over the ten weeks to justify it. Granted, you then have the footage for all eternity and there is value in that. And if the show brings in 50,000 new subscribers and most of them stick around for a year, it’s also a success. But for Total Divas, it’s a lot better for the company to recoup the cost and make some profit by selling to E!, and then having rights to put it on its network six or nine months later, than spend the money for a first-run network launch. But year-old Total Divas episodes hardly have the value for the network that a first-run Tough Enough or Legends House would.
 

dream

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Dana White claimed that they were happy with the UFC 174 number and would have no problem going forward with putting Demetrious Johnson in a PPV main event. Kevin Iole reported the number at 125,000 buys. Our estimates have been between 95,000 and 115,000 buys.

“Demetrious is a guy who is getting better and better, and if he keeps finishing people and winning fights, sooner or later, he’s going to break through,” said White to Iole about UFC 174. “People are still getting familiar with him and with that division. We didn’t go into that fight with the thought it would do a massive number. We know the market and our projection for what it would do was right on the money. This kind of **** is stuff I’ve heard for years and I’m just sick of listening to it, because it’s so ****** stupid and wrong. People are ******* without any facts. We built this business in the U.S. and everyone kept telling us we couldn’t. Then we built it in Canada and Brazil and now we’re doing the same thing around the world. This is how you invest and build your business to make it strong for the long haul.”

A bad PPV number, and this showed the baseline has gotten lower than ever before, is not a disaster if you are developing multiple new revenue streams. And it’s a show that was going to do poorly. But you never want to lose overall popularity in any market.

The problem is that just plain putting on fights on television means nothing, just like pro wrestling matches. There are boxing matches constantly on free TV, and nobody watches and nobody breaks through as stars unless they appear on the highly rated HBO or Showtime cards. And even they are only known to boxing fans unless they are PPV headliners.

It’s all about developing names and issues that people relate to. The less stars there are, the less interest there will be. With so many new faces on the roster due to so many new shows, there are more unknown newcomer vs. unknown newcomer fights with unrecognizable names. The less viewers see the new people coming up, the lower their ceiling as stars are and the lower their chances to breakthrough are. The more unknown fighters appearing on television, the less interest viewers have in those fights. One thing where boxing and MMA differ from wrestling is that when people watch wrestling, they are interested in the entire show, because they “know” almost everyone. With boxing and MMA, even if the TV set is on and people are in the room, if it’s two fighters they don’t know, people are having conversations and such. With UFC, there are more than 500 fighters, but the number of significant stars is less than when they had 200 fighters because they are on shows fewer people watch. For WWE, there are 65 to 70 regular roster performers, and almost everyone is recognizable and on TV almost every week.






For the second time in company history, a UFC PPV show has been canceled, as the company on 7/8 was unable to find a suitable replacement main event for UFC 176 on 8/2 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles after an injury to featherweight champion Jose Aldo.

Aldo vs. Chad Mendes for the featherweight title was the scheduled main event. The 8/2 PPV in Los Angeles took a major hit as Jose Aldo suffered a herniated disc in his neck and a torn labrum suffered in a fall after being taken down while training on 7/1 and is out of his featherweight title defense against Chad Mendes. Dana White at first said Aldo would be okay to fight in about 45 days, although those close to the situation questioned that timetable given the seriousness of the injuries.

Lorenzo Fertitta was on FS 1 to announce the cancellation of the Los Angeles show and said that Aldo was told to not do anything physical for three weeks. He said at that point he would be evaluated and they would have a better idea of how long he would be out of action.

Over the weekend, we had gotten word from a source with ties to the Staples Center that the expectation was, even before UFC 175, that the show would be canceled. At UFC 175, there were no commercials or announcements made regarding the next PPV.

However, after Ronda Rousey’s win over Alexis Davis, announcer Joe Rogan, in the ring interviewing Rousey, brought up Aldo’s injury and said that he was asked by the truck to see if she would be able to do a quick turnaround and save the show. It came across like the surprise question angle where she’d come across as a hero to save the show. She acted surprised, and noted she had a knuckle injury on her right hand and had put off knee surgery, but didn’t say no. While this was going on, Dana White was clearly furious.

Later that night, White said he had no idea why a producer would tell Rogan to ask that question. Before the show, the word going around was that if Rousey got through the Davis fight okay, she’d be asked to save the Los Angeles show. Cat Zingano, who had earned a title shot last year but had been out with two knee operations since, had said on MMA Junkie radio that she would be ready. Fertitta later said that in fact, they had discussed that idea, but had not broached it with Rousey ahead of time. It was clearly not a producer coming up with something on his own, and the idea a producer would feed Rogan a question like that is almost unheard of. It appears there was a miscommunication somewhere and with Rousey’s injuries, which as it turned out, included her suffering a broken right thumb as well as needing nine stitches on the hand when a cyst ruptured stemming from an injury suffered in training. Rousey also noted she had injured her right knee doing extensive wrestling training for the Sara McMann fight and had trained on it for this fight, but was needing arthroscopic surgery. She talked about being looking to fight again on 1/3 in Las Vegas.

Fertitta was hopeful of making Aldo vs. Mendes in October, specifically noting a 10/25 PPV date from Rio de Janeiro. He said it was also possible they could move that date and change that city.

If Aldo’s injuries are serious enough that he’ll be out of action for a lengthy period of time, Fertitta indicated they could put Mendes against either Cub Swanson or Frankie Edgar and create an interim title.

Fertitta noted that they have not been able to secure a new date for the Staples Center. All tickets for the show will be refunded at the point of purchase. The show had an $800,000 advance at the time of cancellation, which is well behind previous shows in the market.

Fertitta said that UFC 176 will end up as the answer to a jeopardy trivia question, as the next PPV show will be 8/30 in Sacramento and be UFC 177, and the following PPV show on 9/27 in Las Vegas will be UFC 178.

This was the second time a UFC PPV show was canceled, the first being UFC 151 in 2012, when Dan Henderson suffered a knee injury in preparing for a light heavyweight title fight with Jon Jones. Jones turned down a late replacement title fight with Chael Sonnen, which was a key in Jones’ declining popularity.

It’s probably not going to be so rare going forward. With so many shows, the depth on the PPV events as a general rule is far less than in the past. This was essentially a two match show, with neither match all that attractive marquee wise, hence the level of the advance. The company’s feeling is unless there is a uniquely strong marquee match like a return of Georges St-Pierre or Anderson Silva, the PPV’s will be headlined by title matches. It’s going to be rare to have two title matches booked on a show, so all it takes is a training injury to a champion, or, with more frequent out-of-competition drug testing, a failure, to threaten shows. Training injuries are not infrequent. In the past, they’ve always been able to shuffle things around. Even with UFC 151, they were able to come up with a solution, only it was the challenger hurt and the champion refused to fight a new opponent. Even if a champion fails a drug test, the champion would be stripped, and they still could have the scheduled challenger face another top guy from the division to create a new champion.

Fertitta said the fights scheduled for Los Angeles will be moved to different shows. The UFC has dates after Los Angeles on 8/16 in Bangor, ME, 8/23 in Macau, 8/23 in Tulsa, the 8/30 PPV in Sacramento and 9/5 in Ledyard, CT.

The No. 2 fight scheduled for that show, Gegard Mousasi vs. Ronaldo Jacare Souza, is being moved to the 9/5 show, which will be an FS 1 event going head-to-head with Bellator’s fall season opener, and take place ten minutes away. It is not yet certain if that will mean the fight changes to being a five-round main event.

Shayna Baszler vs. Bethe Correia and Danny Castillo (who is from Sacramento) vs. Tony Ferguson have been moved to Sacramento, Bobby Green vs. Abel Trujillo and Zach Makovsky vs. Jussier Formiga Da Silva were moved to Bangor. Tony Martin vs. Beneil Dariush and James Vick vs. Walmir Lozaro have been moved to Tulsa,
 

dream

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UFC announced the 8/30 PPV with T.J. Dillashaw vs. Renan Barao for the bantamweight title from Sacramento. That’s another one I can’t see doing much PPV business. The choice came down to Barao or Raphael Assuncao for the title shot. Neither decision was right or wrong as far as sports goes. Barao was the No. 1 contender and former champion, and the 5/24 loss to Dillashaw was his first loss in nine years. Dana White, when asked about the decision, said Barao got the shot because it was his first loss in nine years. The only question is that Dillashaw dominated the fight and finished him. Assuncao is the No. 3 contender (Urijah Faber is No. 2) but Assuncao was originally going to get the 5/24 shot and was injured, and Dillashaw was a replacement. Also, Assuncao beat Dillashaw on a close decision last year. Barao would do better on PPV, although neither are going to do even average numbers. Assuncao could be UFC 174-like numbers.

Dominick Cruz returns fight was announced as being against Takeya Mizugaki on the 9/27 show in Las Vegas, which is the Jon Jones vs. Alexander Gustafsson event. Tim Kennedy vs. Yoel Romero was also announced for the show. Cruz has had the worst career luck of anyone. He was 26 years old, had a 19-1 record, and was considered one of the best fighters in the sport as bantamweight champion and having made four successful title defenses. He was set for a title defense against Urijah Faber on the July 2012 show coming off Ultimate Fighter when he tore his ACL a few weeks before the fight. Besides an injury that required major surgery, missing that date cost him millions. Faber vs. Cruz was part of a show with Anderson Silva vs Chael Sonnen. That show did 925,000 buys, and if you had loaded it with another title match, it would have probably topped 1 million. Cruz had a percentage, and we’re talking his cut would have been way into the seven figures, basically the kind of money that bantamweights aren’t’ going to make. He then blew out his knee again, and suffered a groin injury, and it will be three years since his last fight if he gets through camp and can take the Mizugaki fight. If Cruz wins, he’d be likely to face ether Faber or the winner of T.J. Dillashaw vs. Renan Barao. The Kennedy vs. Romero winner would probably next be in a top contenders fight at middleweight. Romero, a former Olympic silver medalist in wrestling, makes for an intriguing opponent for Chris Weidman because on paper, he’d be a guy who could beat Weidman at wrestling, although the longer it takes for the fight to happen, the more the edge goes to Weidman due to Romero being 37 years old.

Dana White also hinted at a return of Chael Sonnen when he was asked about the subject and instead of the usual, he’ll never be back that White usually says about people let go, it was a far more tempered, “It all depends on how he handles it. America is a very forgiving place for guys who do the right thing. You see what happens with the guys who dig their heels in and try to battle it. It doesn’t work that well for them.” Sonnen looks like he’s going to lay low, as he hasn’t spoken to any media, until his hearing before the Nevada Athletic Commission on 7/23.

Some notes on Sonnen’s situation. When Bob Bennett of the Nevada Athletic commission on 6/6 told Sonnen he had failed for Anastrozole and Clomiphene, Sonnen e-mailed back quickly, writing: “Yes, I took both of those. I’m a little surprised that HCG didn’t also show up. These are the transition medications needed when a human stops taking testosterone. When the NSAC changed the rules, we refrained from asking for a license until I was able to complete the treatment. My wife and I have had fertility issues and Clom/HCG are fertility medications. The good news is that we found out this morning that my wife is pregnant and we no longer will need fertility medications of any kind.”

The commission noted in its formal complaint that Sonnen had not applied for a TUE for any of the three drugs. Sonnen’s claim seemed to be from that letter was that he applied for a license after stopping use of those drugs but they still showed up in the test a couple of weeks later. While the excuse for the drugs used when you get off testosterone can be given, there is no excuse for the HGH and EPO, which can’t be detected unless they were recently administered, and those are PEDs that are so clearly not allowed at any time.

The only response from the Sonnen camp to the second test failure came from a letter from his attorney, Jeff Meyer, as a response to failure on 6/6 for Anastrozole, HCG, HGH and EPO. “Mr. Sonnen does not dispute any of the factual allegations contained in the First Amended Complaint. Mr Sonnen accepts responsibility for his actions and will comply with the Commission in the prompt resolution of this matter.”

White said UFC has the first date when the new arena in Las Vegas opens in 2016. That will likely be a major event.

There are no shows this weekend. The next two events are 7/16 in Atlantic City on FS 1, a Wednesday night show headlined by Jim Miller vs. Donald Cerrone and Edson Barboza vs. Evan Dunham; and a 7/19 Fight Pass show from Dublin headlined by Conor McGregor vs. Diego Brandao and Ian McCall vs .Brad Pickett.

The 7/16 show, a Wednesday night TV taping, has sold 2,300 tickets in a 4,000 seat building as of a week ago. Dublin is sold out with 8,000 paid and $1.3 million. 7/26 in San Jose, which is Matt Brown vs. Robbie Lawler, has 5,000 tickets sold for about $500,000, which is weak for the market which has usually been a strong local fighter market and really you only have Josh Thomson as a local star on the bill.

Robert Drysdale did an interview with MMA Fighting before his UFC debut over the weekend. Drysdale’s debut was big in some circles because he’s a former world champion in Jiu Jitsu and an Abu Dhabi open champion and is one of the leading Jiu Jitsu coaches. He was supposed to debut in November, but failed an out of competition drug test with a 19.4-1 T:E ratio. His claim is that he thought he had an exemption for TRT, but said that the commission didn’t process his file after he applied and it was a misunderstanding. He claims it’s all been worked out and he was never suspended nor punished, and the reason for the delay in his debut since November was an injury. He said being off TRT hasn’t affected him in training. “TRT is banned, and I’m cool without it. I don’t need it. I never needed it. It was my doctor’s decision, not mine. If you have a health issue, you’ll talk to a doctor. I would never talk to a plumber if I had a health issue and I wouldn’t talk to a doctor if I had a plumbing issue. I won’t pretend I’m a specialist on this matter. I spoke to my doctors and heard their opinions.” He theorized his low testosterone levels came from overtraining.

Antonio “Bigfoot” Silva returns to headline the 9/13 show in Brasilia, Brazil, the company’s debut in that city. Silva was suspended for having levels of testosterone over the allowable limit for someone using TRT in a UFC blood test after his 12/7 draw with Mark Hunt in one of the best heavyweight fights in UFC history. While out of action, he had shoulder surgery done. Silva had been trying to get a fight with Josh Barnett, based on a problem the two had which was serious enough that Barnett said he didn’t want to do anything that would help make Silva money. Silva will instead face Andrei Arlovski, who badly needs an impressive performance after his win in a lackluster fight that he had no business getting the decision in against Brendan Schaub. Silva beat Arlovski via decision on December, 4, 2010, on a Strikeforce show in St. Louis and that was a lackluster fight.

Ben Askren has gone on a Twitter campaign against Johny Hendricks, from calling him fat, to saying he’d take the title from him if he’d get the chance. He said for Hendricks to tell Uncle Dana that you want to prove you’re the best. Askren is, of course, signed with ONE FC in Singapore so he’s not getting a match with a UFC champion.

I don’t know how prevalent this is, but there is a feeling in Toronto that the UFC thought the Jones vs. Gustafsson fight was too big for the city and the reaction is negative about losing it. Dana White said that the MGM Grand showed that they wanted the fight more than the Air Canada Center in Toronto. He didn’t specify what that meant, but the casinos in Las Vegas pay site fees for major events, which is why Las Vegas gets such a high percentage of the big boxing matches and MMA fights.

Takanori Gomi vs. Myles Jury has been added to the 9/21 show in Saitama. If they go with Urijah Faber vs. Kid Yamamoto and Gomi vs. Jury, they’re basically putting their Japanese stars on the show in positions to look bad.

Mike Goldberg got some negative publicity in New Zealand. This was played up pretty big in some newspapers there under the guise of how Americans are so ignorant of anything not in America. Goldberg had mentioned Jonah Lomu, and called him one of the greatest Australian Rules football players of all-time. Lomu was actually a star in Rugby Union, a different sport.

Lauren Murphy (8-0), who defeated Miriam Nakamoto on 12/7 to win the Invicta women’s bantamweight title, has moved to UFC and will debut on the 8/16 show in Bangor, ME, against Sara McMann, in McMann’s first fight since losing to Ronda Rousey.

Thiago Alves suffered a knee injury so he’s out of his 8/23 fight in Tulsa against Jordan Mein. He’s being replaced by Brandon Thatch, who has looked great in his first two UFC wins. Alves has been decimated by injuries in recent years, only fighting once in the last 28 months, a 4/19 win over Seth Baczynski.

Tom Lawlor had to pull out of his 7/19 fight in Dublin, where he was to face Ilir Latifi, due to an injury. Chris Dempsey (10-1) makes his UFC debut on short notice on 7/19 in Dublin, facing Ilir Latifi.

Joanna Jedrzejczyk vs. Juilana Lima was added to the 7/26 show in San Jose. It’ll be the debut for both women.

After a one year UFC-imposed suspension for testing above allowable limits while on TRT, Ben Rothwell is expected to face Ruslan Magomedov. No date for the fight is official but it was reported in Russian publications it would be on 8/30 in Sacramento.

The debuting Alan Jouban from the RFA promotion will face Seth Baczynski on 8/16 in Bangor, ME.
 

Heel

Member
It's refreshing that more media outlets are catching up with what we've been saying for years. I dunno why it took until 2014 for "oversaturation" to become a buzzword. I guess Anderson and GSP have made the problem a lot more glaring.
 

strobogo

Banned
I watched a documentary on the Thrilla in Manila. I thought the DVD was actually of the fight, but it was a documentary instead. I've always known that Ali did Joe dirty as fuck, but not to the level he did. The thing that really stood out was that the NOI and KKK were working together and Ali spoke at a Klan rally to A. Talk about how the races should stay separated, and B. Take shots at Joe. That's crazy.

But the whole thing is so sad that Joe wasn't able to let any of that go until a year or two before his death. 30 years of holding that grudge. Even after Ali apologized after the 3rd fight and publicly in 2001. Taking credit and pleasure in Ali getting Parkinson's. Joe's cell phone voice mail was him bragging about being the one that ruined Ali. In 2005. That's a serious grudge.

Everything about it is sad. Ali's physical state. Joe's physical state. They should have subtitled Joe. I could only understand about half of what he was saying. Joe's financial state, living in his gym as an old man with no money, and a city that celebrates a fictional boxer more than him.

Also, Ferdie Pacheco seems like a real cunt. I don't think there are any athletes that are more of a bummer to see as old men as boxers.
 

industrian

will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Why the fuck is Overeem Rothwell? Overeem should only be fighting top guys at this point. I mean, Dos Santos is right there!

And if Overeem wins, he'll probably end up fighting Gonzaga. But regardless, he needs to destroy guys like Rothwell in order to be taken seriously again.

Speaking of JDS, I wonder if he'll even fight this year.

I'd appreciate JDS vs. Browne. Or Miocic vs. Browne if JDS is out for a long time. The heavyweight division's in the same position that welterweight was a few years ago: a handful of contenders, a decent selection of potentials, but a champion who is godamn light years ahead of all of them in talent and ability.
 

MjFrancis

Member
I'm content to watch the GIF highlights you fine gentlemen supply us with in this thread. That's all the MMA I care for these days. And in the case of a Ronda Rousey fight,a GIF is all you usually need.
 
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Heel needs a tag for his research. "Playful Scholar" will do nicely.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Didn't someone get banned for posting entire Observer Newsletters? I would be very cautious with that Dream, given how there is a rule against even posting magazine scans on GAF.
 

Vio-Lence

Banned
Didn't someone get banned for posting entire Observer Newsletters? I would be very cautious with that Dream, given how there is a rule against even posting magazine scans on GAF.
Don't slander my good friend dream. He writes original content for our information and entertainment.

I hate the cross contamination of the other sports entertainment fans. As if MMA wasn't in bad enough shape.
 

strobogo

Banned
Didn't someone get banned for posting entire Observer Newsletters? I would be very cautious with that Dream, given how there is a rule against even posting magazine scans on GAF.

You sound like Dana getting mad about people making UFC gifs. What a maroon.
 
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Deleted member 47027

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Didn't someone get banned for posting entire Observer Newsletters? I would be very cautious with that Dream, given how there is a rule against even posting magazine scans on GAF.

I think I found Shao Kahn's snitch
 
Finally, someone that can give Rousey a challenge.

Why the fuck is Overeem Rothwell? Overeem should only be fighting top guys at this point. I mean, Dos Santos is right there!

Cause he's 2-2 and has been popped for drugs. Tons of fighters have been cut for a lot less let alone earning title contender fights.
 
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