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[dream]

Bet the fucking farm on Nate Diaz. This is not a winnable fight for Conor McGregor.

 

[Sato Koiji]

Bet the fucking farm on Nate Diaz. This is not a winnable fight for Conor McGregor.

 

[alpinestars1980]

Bet the fucking farm on Nate Diaz. This is not a winnable fight for Conor McGregor.

Lol

 

[zewone]

Bet the fucking farm on Nate Diaz. This is not a winnable fight for Conor McGregor.

Let's bet.

 

[FUME5]

I'm happy with either of these two grade A shit talkers winning!

It's either going to be a great fight, or a very strange one.

 

[alpinestars1980]

I'm happy with either of these two grade A shit talkers winning!

It's either going to be a great fight, or a very strange one.

Nate isn't grade A, though. He's a mumbling mess.

He's D grade at best.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Conor might pull out, the hell is he going to say to Nate in the octagon??? His taunting will give Diaz an erection at best.

 

[FUME5]

Nate isn't grade A, though. He's a mumbling mess.

He's D grade at best.

The Diaz Bros are a double act to me, so Nate gets bumped up.

 

[alpinestars1980]

Conor might pull out, the hell is he going to say to Nate in the octagon??? His taunting will give Diaz an erection at best.

You guys are killing me.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

The Diaz Bros are a double act to me, so Nate gets bumped up.

He's Flava Flav to Nick's Chuck D. Of course that's a horrible analogy but I like comparing Nate to Flav.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Damn, wish we had more buildup for this fight. Much better than no personality Bralizian #1294

 

[Gr1mLock]

Nate has a thing that weekend, otherwise he'd whoop that ass.

 

[alpinestars1980]

Damn, wish we had more buildup for this fight. Much better than no personality Bralizian #1294

RDA at least had a very real chance that made it intriguing.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Damn, wish we had more buildup for this fight. Much better than no personality Bralizian #1294

It's Mixed Martial Arts, not The Real Housewives of Orange County.

 

[FUME5]

He's Flava Flav to Nick's Chuck D. Of course that's a horrible analogy but I like comparing Nate to Flav.

Nate Diaz is a musical prodigy?

 

[Fox318]

Is this high nate or high nate?

 

[scabro]

It's Mixed Martial Arts, not The Real Housewives of Orange County.

is that why jon fitch is getting his knee torn off by palhares in front of 200 people at a rec center

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

is that why jon fitch is getting his knee torn off by palhares in front of 200 people at a rec center

That's a sore spot, he's from my alma mater. But besides any shenanigans, the UFC is this big because of the product and skill fighting. When it's all said and done, people want to see quality fighting, not a Bellator carnival act. Not many diehards of the sport would want to see Nate Diaz fight McGregor over dos Anjos or Frankie Edgar fighting him.

 

[dream]

That's a sore spot, he's from my alma mater. But besides any shenanigans, the UFC is this big because of the product and skill fighting. When it's all said and done, people want to see quality fighting, not a Bellator carnival act. Not many diehards of the sport would want to see Nate Diaz fight McGregor over dos Anjos or Frankie Edgar fighting him.

What, nobody cares about skilled fighting. Look at Mighty Mouse's PPV numbers.

 

[scabro]

That's a sore spot, he's from my alma mater. But besides any shenanigans, the UFC is this big because of the product and skill fighting. When it's all said and done, people want to see quality fighting, not a Bellator carnival act. Not many diehards of the sport would want to see Nate Diaz fight McGregor over dos Anjos or Frankie Edgar fighting him.

Is that why Brock Lesnar is the biggest draw of all time

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

What, nobody cares about skilled fighting. Look at Mighty Mouse's PPV numbers.

Rogan went over this in a podcast, not many seem to care about that division for many reasons, most pertaining to the size(or lack thereof) of the combatants. They want to see skill AND brutality.

 

[dream]

I don't think they even want brutality. They just want personalities. I mean, shit, Bellator just pulled 2 million viewers with Kimbo, Dada, Royce, and Ken. In the end, this shit is just pro wrestling with (mostly) real finishes.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I don't think they even want brutality. They just want personalities. I mean, shit, Bellator just pulled 2 million viewers with Kimbo, Dada, Royce, and Ken. In the end, this shit is just pro wrestling with (mostly) real finishes.

Would a card like that work again though???

 

[Heel]

Would a card like that work again though???

They came back after Kimbo vs. Ken, didn't they?

 

[zewone]

Would a card like that work again though???

100% yes.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

They came back after Kimbo vs. Ken, didn't they?

Well, I take back everything I said, we do live in the Trump Age after all.

 

[dream]

Would a card like that work again though???

I don't think there's any reason why it wouldn't. Ken and Kimbo did 1.6 million over the summer. Tito vs. Stephan Bonnar did 1.8. Bellator has shown that the general public will tune in just for names and personalities.

 

[Heel]

I think the fact remains that the genesis of Mixed Martial Arts in America was spectacle, not sport. There will always be room for it, and the ratings bear out that there is a wider audience for it to boot.

 

[Mister Wilhelm]

Bet the fucking farm on Nate Diaz. This is not a winnable fight for Conor McGregor.

Diaz got TKO'd by the Punk with half a functioning knee like a year ago.

Damn, wish we had more buildup for this fight. Much better than no personality Bralizian #1294

Hey now, Brazilian fighters have personality, as in singular: one personality for all of them.

"I grew up with nahting."

"He ain't neva goanna take dis belt frome me."

"I givea my tanks to gawd."

etc. etc.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

So with that said, if Nate is confirmed, will the draw be bigger than dos Anjos/McGregor would have been??? Or is there not enough time for the pre-hype/promotion to gain traction???

 

[op_ivy]

people overselling conor i see.

 

[Messi]

people overselling conor i see.

Always, he is great but maybe not as great as some people believe.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Always, he is great but maybe not as great as some people believe.

That's the problem. He's very good, has one of the most annoying fanbases ever, hasn't had nearly the resume many top fighters have had, still beats some of these guys, etc... It's all a mixture of shit which isn't decisive one way or the other. He will lose though even though you can't tell that to some. I was very much looking forward to him and dos Anjos because there'd be no questions if he won decisively. I went back and forth, my brain couldn't pick against the all around polish of Rafael but I think it's really possible he could get caught on the jaw early on. Now against Nate, I guess the best we could hope for is a lengthy striking match as if Conor wins, it's not going to cement him as anything. Nate's decent though, not saying he's a bum.

 

[zewone]

So with that said, if Nate is confirmed, will the draw be bigger than dos Anjos/McGregor would have been??? Or is there not enought time for the pre-hype/promotion to gain traction???

No.

History being made/title fight vs an exhibition.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

No.

History being made/title fight vs an exhibition.

The weigh-in should be classic at least.

 

[Fox318]

Is Dana doing an interim title?

 

[zewone]

It's Nate Diaz at 170lbs.

Insanity. At 170, Diaz has better odds I think.

 

[Kwansu Dudes]

Would've loved to see RDA, but this should be good too.

 

[Chesskid1]

omg the buildup to this fight is going to be god damn amazing

and we will get a longer fight because nate is really hard to finish

really hyped for this

and mcgregor vs lawler seems likely to happen someday and not just a dream

 

[Dr.Acula]

Wooooow.

Conor saying fuck it and going at 170. That's nuts. This is gonna be nuuuts.

 

[MjFrancis]

Is this the first time a UFC championship fight plays second fiddle to a non-championship bout?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

It's Nate Diaz at 170lbs.

Insanity. At 170, Diaz has better odds I think.

The plot thickens.

 

[KefkaPalazzo]

Bet the fucking farm on Nate Diaz. This is not a winnable fight for Conor McGregor.

And you base that on what exactly?

 

[zewone]

Is this the first time a UFC championship fight plays second fiddle to a non-championship bout?

I'm pretty sure.

Conor vs Mendes was pretty close, but that at least had a fake belt up for grabs.

EDIT: Twitter says UFC 51 was the last time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_51

 

[dream]

And you base that on what exactly?

Nate's 2 inch reach advantage and superior ground game.

 

[Qvoth]

is this diaz the stockton bitch meme dude?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Nate's 2 inch reach advantage and superior ground game.

He could and should but I doubt Nate even tries to take him down.

 

[zewone]

is this diaz the stockton bitch meme guy?

Stockton, Motherfucker was made famous by his brother NIck Diaz.

 

[-MD-]

Fuck, please don't let this fight be a dud.

Having it at 170 almost makes up for the 2 week notice.

 

[dream]

He could and should but I doubt Nate even tries to take him down.

I don't think he needs to. With his reach advantage, Nate should just pepper Conor all night long with jabs until Conor decides to shoot.

But scabro and I were talking about this earlier, and he thinks the only way Conor can win is by throwing leg kicks. And I think that might invite Nate to grab a single.