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MMA-GAF |OT6| All Our Heroes Are P.E.D.
- Thread starter Plywood
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McGregor is never fighting at 145lbs again. He hates the idea.
Ninja Scooter
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the money fights are all at 155 anyway.
RBelong2Us
Member
cowboy doesn't fight at 155 anymore and no thanks to him getting a shot at 155 this quick again anyways.
juliushandle
Member
Hope Bones Jones makes the MSG card
Ninja Scooter
Member
the 2019 MSG card?
PaulKersey
Member
Conor vs Eddie and Nate vs Cowboy. I feel it's reasonable Conor and Nate would win, then they just make Conor vs. Nate 3 for the LW title.
Mental Atrophy
Banned
Shane Carwin is dropping some truth bombs about backroom bonuses and contract negotiations on reddit right now: https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/52kqgd/news_stipe_miocic_to_bank_more_than_700000_for/
Some highlights:
Some highlights:
Shane Carwin said:I can't really speak about everyone. I know that every fight I ever had in the UFC I got one. I know my manger claims that 100% of the fighters he represented got them, even the ones that claim they did not. So I would say they were a sure thing.
Shane Carwin said:
Shane Carwin said:
Will he be working concessions?
That fight was even worse than the Werdum/Browne trainwreck.
Cowboy has a much stronger claim to a title shot at Lightweight than Conor does.
Yeah Minakov gassed pretty badly in that fight, but his skillset is all there for him to be a top-level contender. He'd be the youngest Heavyweight too, probably. God that division is ancient.
Not after RDA tore him a new one
PaulKersey
Member
Not really seeing as Conor has at least become a champion.
He lost to the (former) champ and beat the current one. McGregor lost to and beat a #5 ranked contender. That doesn't mean he gets to leapfrog #4-#1.
With no defenses to his name. Even BJ, who had previously held the WW title in the UFC, had to dust off Sherk before he got a crack at GSP.
Jest Chillin
Member
In am entirely different division. Conor's biggest asset in getting a 155 title shot is his draw.
juliushandle
Member
Stipe wants the Jones fight to happen.
That would be great. I think Stipe would finish him.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Let's see Stipe beat Cain first.
PaulKersey
Member
You guys are absolutely right. Cowboy is the reigning 155 champ who has only been fighting at 155 and deserves his shot, even though he got clowned by RDA in record time. I apologize.
All hail King Cowboy.
Jest Chillin
Member
That's a lot of snark in response to people saying that Conor shouldn't be able to leapfrog an entire division of contenders for a title fight when he hasn't fought once at that weight in the organization.
Oh god, Cain winning the UFC belt for the 3rd time...It's gonna happen, isn't it?
juliushandle
Member
Nobody wants to see Cain get a shot. If he wins he'll just reinjure himself in training again.
RBelong2Us
Member
i still cant believe Stipe lost to Struve...like totally one sided fight.
Jones would destroy Stipe. Keep distance and just break him down.
Jones would destroy Stipe. Keep distance and just break him down.
Nobody wants to see Cain with the belt.
I expect Cain vs Werdum and Stipe vs Dos Anjos
parrotbeak
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I do. I love waiting 2 years for Cain to defend only to see him lose embarrassingly.
PaulKersey
Member
But it was already set. In a perfect world, it wouldn't happen. But I know the UFC doesn't give an eff about what is right.
"Hey Cain you should head down to Mexico, the elevation is pretty high there.
Nah man, real Mexican blood flows through these vains, I won't let my people down"
Hell Cain being around is what prevents DC from being the greatest heavyweight of all time.
RBelong2Us
Member
yeah true and its total bs.... Cormier at heavy was so much more interesting than at 205...hes just not as fun to watch. Straight up clowned on Heavys.
oh but i was at that card where he fought Mir....ooof... like every single fight on that card was a finish up until mir vs cormier put on the worst fight ever.
oh but i was at that card where he fought Mir....ooof... like every single fight on that card was a finish up until mir vs cormier put on the worst fight ever.
Jest Chillin
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It was set because Conor was undefeated and it was one of the only ways Dana would get a Champ v. Champ superfight.
Losing to Nate fucked almost all of that up. Conor is no longer undefeated and even in getting the win he didn't dominate. And despite the weight the fight was at, Nate is a 155er who has never won a title.
The only thing that makes that match ideal for the UFC is the Champ v. Champ angle and Conors draw. Even the Champ v. Champ angle has less lustre since Conor hasn't defended his title even once.
So the draw is the only benefit for that match and Conor will pull that draw against nearly anyone he faces. So it's better he defends his title or rematches Nate.
I was too hungover to watch that card...
Hafael Dos Nachos is heavyweight now? Or do you mean JDS
Losing to Nate Diaz this year with no other wins/accomplishments at 155 is way, way worse than losing to RDA in a title fight after destroying most of Top 15, including the guy who went on to beat RDA and now has the title.
Jones has fairly terrible boxing and has shown difficulty against fighters that can match his size. I wouldn't like his chances against a Heavyweight that moves well, throws clean, straight and fast punches, and has a wrestling base to boot.
Jones relies on his chin and his size a tonne at LHW. I don't agree with the consensus that the HW title has always been for the taking, especially now.
I meant JDS.
At least with Stipe with the belt we may get 3 to 4 fights a year.
Cain is probably already back to doing stupid workout shit like sets of 100 leg extensions @ 300 lbs.
alpinestars1980
Member
It'll be Conor for the 55 belt because money.
Otherwise, if you want anyone other than Khabib you're stupid.
Otherwise, if you want anyone other than Khabib you're stupid.
-MD-
Member
Everyone wants a champion with glass bones and 1 notable win.
alpinestars1980
Member
Or no claim to the throne...
Rumblebones
Banned
Khabib doesn't deserve shit. The only opponent of note he beat was RDA, and that was over 2 years, before RDA went on tear through the division.
Khabib doesn't deserve the title shot. He doesn't deserve the #1 ranking. He should have to fight at least one Top 5 guy before even being in the discussion.
PaulKersey
Member
So wait. Who do you think deserves the LW shot?
alpinestars1980
Member
Pfft, ok, dude. Let's give it to Cowboy who never can win the big fight. Let's give it to.....uh, who?
Khabib is the only legitimate answer outside of money fights. You're wrong and you know it.
Gastellum = a younger, fresher version of Rick Story.
Might be enough to wrestlefuck the Cowboy.
But if Cerrone wins, they will make him fight Maia for a shot at the belt.
(edit)
Saw some people talk about Cowboy vs. Masvidal. That would have been a great PPV opener
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