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[RBelong2Us]

Kelvin vs Nazi/Women/Children killer is a go.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/11/...f-suspension-will-face-tim-kennedy-at-ufc-206

 

[Brerlappin]

But can Kelvin defeat his greatest foe, the KFC family bucket, first?

 

[slightconfuse]

Bjorn rebney starting an MMA union is amazing booking

 

[Heel]

Bjorn rebney starting an MMA union is amazing booking

"It was in that very moment I took part in suing a fighter for trying to go make money elsewhere, that I knew you guys needed me to head a union."

"Where do I sign?"

 

[Maklershed]

Aldo is the interim champ. The current champ vacates the division and belt. The interim champ becomes the legitimate champ. SO WHY THE &%$# IS THERE GONNA BE AN INTERIM CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT BETWEEN PETTIS AND HOLLOWAY?!!! C'mon UFC get your shit together. It doesn't even make sense from a marketing gimmick stand point. Nobody who already knows these guys needs further incentive to be excited about that match up. And anyone who doesn't know them isn't gonna be excited about an 'interim title bout' between two guys they don't know.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Aldo is the interim champ. The current champ vacates the division and belt. The interim champ becomes the legitimate champ. SO WHY THE &%$# IS THERE GONNA BE AN INTERIM CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT BETWEEN PETTIS AND HOLLOWAY?!!! C'mon UFC get your shit together. It doesn't even make sense from a marketing gimmick stand point. Nobody who already knows these guys needs further incentive to be excited about that match up. And anyone who doesn't know them isn't gonna be excited about an 'interim title bout' between two guys they don't know.

They needed a contender for Aldo, interim champs are usually always contenders, Holloway has had 9 wins in a row yet no shots so he deserves to be in that running, and they need a backup plan in case Aldo can't or won't defend. (Last point is important because Aldo, the last time he publicly made a statement, said he was retired if he couldn't fight Conor next, which obviously isn't going to happen. Conor's moved on, the division must too, and there's a chance it might do so two champions later)

A mess of a situation for all involved that would have easily been avoided if they didn't trust one guy over everyone else. A mistake the UFC constantly runs into, and will never learn from and avoid.

 

[Heel]

Aldo is the interim champ. The current champ vacates the division and belt. The interim champ becomes the legitimate champ. SO WHY THE &%$# IS THERE GONNA BE AN INTERIM CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT BETWEEN PETTIS AND HOLLOWAY?!!! C'mon UFC get your shit together. It doesn't even make sense from a marketing gimmick stand point. Nobody who already knows these guys needs further incentive to be excited about that match up. And anyone who doesn't know them isn't gonna be excited about an 'interim title bout' between two guys they don't know.

This Aldo situation has only accentuated the fact that interim belts are just a hollow attempt to get someone over.

Actually beginning to think he'll never come back. Dana's #1 P4P "this kid is nasty" to an afterthought in one punch.

 

[Fox318]

They should just do an interim title every week.

Hell one for every fight.

 

[Brerlappin]

They should just do an interim title every week.

Hell one for every fight.

They should just Oprah that shit.

YOU GET AN INTERIM TITLE! AND YOU GET AN INTERIM TITLE!!

 

[Sato Koiji]

Tony/Habib needs to happen. I'd be so excite!

 

[Maklershed]

They should just do an interim title every week.

Hell one for every fight.

Might as well for how much meaning the interim title now has.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

They needed a contender for Aldo, interim champs are usually always contenders, Holloway has had 9 wins in a row yet no shots so he deserves to be in that running, and they need a backup plan in case Aldo can't or won't defend. (Last point is important because Aldo, the last time he publicly made a statement, said he was retired if he couldn't fight Conor next, which obviously isn't going to happen. Conor's moved on, the division must too, and there's a chance it might do so two champions later)

A mess of a situation for all involved that would have easily been avoided if they didn't trust one guy over everyone else. A mistake the UFC constantly runs into, and will never learn from and avoid.

Interim champs are usually reserved for when the current champ is injured and can't compete. In this case the current and newly crowned champ, Jose Aldo, is perfectly healthy. There is no reason Perris/Holloway should be a title fight, it's just a desperate attempt by the UFC at saving face for a PPV that has gone to shit, otherwise you might as well make every "#1 contender fight" an interim title fight/

 

[Levito]

If the UFC did less events each year they could have more stacked cards overall and probably wouldn't need to "save" cards like 206.

 

[SnakeXs]

Interim champs are usually reserved for when the current champ is injured and can't compete. In this case the current and newly crowned champ, Jose Aldo, is perfectly healthy. There is no reason Perris/Holloway should be a title fight, it's just a desperate attempt by the UFC at saving face for a PPV that has gone to shit, otherwise you might as well make every "#1 contender fight" an interim title fight/

How anyone can see it any other way baffles me.

 

[Dwayne]

If the UFC did less events each year they could have more stacked cards overall and probably wouldn't need to "save" cards like 206.

They need the cards as the roster is so large. Someone did the math here. Breaking the roster into leagues could be a solution, but it's a much harder sell to get people in the arena and watching the show when a card is B-league only fighters.

 

[alr1ght]

That GSP (union?) press conference is due to start in 5 minutes.

 

[Master Thespian]

Jon Jones on eyepokes.

 

[alr1ght]

Mixed Martial Arts Athletes Association

there it is

Funny enough, aren't Tim Kennedy and Cerrone staunch Republicans?

 

[Reg]

MMAAA

 

[Fox318]

That GSP (union?) press conference is due to start in 5 minutes.

I wonder if Monster is happy with someone like Cowboy there.

Same for guys with Reebok deals.

Man all the UFC had to do was say that sponsorship could be denied by the UFC with shit like the Condom Depot. ad

 

[Maklershed]

Mixed Martial Arts Athletes Association

there it is

Funny enough, aren't Tim Kennedy and Cerrone staunch Republicans?

I've learned from my conservative teacher and construction worker friends on Facebook that they're vehemently against all unions except the one they're in.

Edit: wait that eye injury Cerrone posted the other day was real?! I thought that was special fx makeup for a movie or something.

 

[Reg]

Velasquez says he already has his next surgery scheduled for post-207.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Velasquez says he already has his next surgery scheduled for post-207.

It'll be his 8th surgery

 

[iddqd]

While we on the UNION subject, Sam Alvey without a clue:

http://www.flocombat.com/article/48885-sam-alvey-strongly-against-formation-of-a-fighters-union

Always shortsighted, always thinking that THEY are going to be the 1%

 

[alr1ght]

"Myself, I don't want it, because I think I'm going to be worth every penny of what Conor is," Alvey said. "I just need to get that win streak going and run my mouth a little bit. With a union like that I just don't like it."

LOL

Guy probably makes 15 and 15.

 

[Levito]

It's kinda telling in various ways that this union is very much talking just about the UFC, there are no Bellator fighters present.

 

[Fox318]

Everyone's against unions except the one they are in.

 

[alr1ght]

As much as I dislike GSP as a fighter, props to him for stepping up. You always need one of the top earners to make a stand.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

@jeremybotter
Wow. So they go to “TJ De Santis” on the line, but it’s actually Ian McCall. He’s asking about the benefits.

 

[alr1ght]

LOL @ that revenue split if true. 8% goes to the fighters right now.

Look at this jokey logo. Can't even get the year correct.
https://twitter.com/Themmaaa

 

[Dwayne]

LOL @ that revenue split if true. 8% goes to the fighters right now.

Look at this jokey logo. Can't even get the year correct.

Been working on it for 2 years apparently, so year is not necessarily wrong.

 

[Dr.Acula]

I'm on mobile, but someone should make a post in the OT about this, I was unaware until I hopped on twitter to check my ISP for service issues when I saw Helwani livetweeting this.

 

[Dysun]

Good for them to fight for what they want

lol at Cain already being injured again

 

[Dr.Acula]

Ariel Helwani‏ @arielhelwani
Rebney says UFC fighters are independent contractors, so they should not form a union. "We are not forming a union. We are an association."4:48 PM · Nov 30, 2016

uhhhhhh... k?

 

[Fox318]

Cain being injured again is more proof he isn't worth the trouble to book.

Sure the 1 fight a year hes in he will look good if he makes it to the weigh in but all he has done is destroy guys who were stars or were at least able to get 3 to 4 fights in a year.

 

[Sato Koiji]

All the UFC fighters will get on Danas very dark side for doing this. Interesting times ahead.

Oh and Alvey is a moron.

 

[Yaari]

Lol that logo looks so bad.

 

[iddqd]

The story who the real money behind this is could make for some bad press.
Would be super lame if its just a Agency vs Agency feud.

206 is going to be awkward!

 

[OpinionatedCyborg]

While we on the UNION subject, Sam Alvey without a clue:

http://www.flocombat.com/article/48885-sam-alvey-strongly-against-formation-of-a-fighters-union

Always shortsighted, always thinking that THEY are going to be the 1%

Temporarily embarrassed champion.

 

[Chesskid1]

why do so many ppl hate bjorn rebney

 

[Ceallach]

why do so many ppl hate bjorn rebney

He was scummy when he was in charge of Bellator. He tried to ruin Eddie Alvarez

 

[parrotbeak]

Ariel Helwani‏ @arielhelwani
Rebney says UFC fighters are independent contractors, so they should not form a union. "We are not forming a union. We are an association."4:48 PM · Nov 30, 2016

uhhhhhh... k?

Unions typically enter into contracts with employers on behalf of the union members. Since UFC isn't their employer, it doesn't make sense that they would enter into a union contract. So I'm not sure what exactly this association could do for individual fighters, unless all members agreed to negotiate the same things, but they'd still negotiate as individuals.

 

[brentech]

While we on the UNION subject, Sam Alvey without a clue:

http://www.flocombat.com/article/48885-sam-alvey-strongly-against-formation-of-a-fighters-union

Always shortsighted, always thinking that THEY are going to be the 1%

But we've already heard Alvey on the mic, and even if you think Conor is a easily contrived or putting on an act, Alvey is 1000x worse. Yelling into a mic and making weird noises isn't mic skills.

 

[FUME5]

Unions typically enter into contracts with employers on behalf of the union members. Since UFC isn't their employer, it doesn't make sense that they would enter into a union contract. So I'm not sure what exactly this association could do for individual fighters, unless all members agreed to negotiate the same things, but they'd still negotiate as individuals.

Yeah, I'm not seeing anything concrete eventuating from this.

 

[brentech]

Yeah, I'm not seeing anything concrete eventuating from this.

Seeing Cowboy and Tim there, I'm sure what most are really trying to do is make sure they are paid in full from the UFC/Reebok for doing their job and showing up to the fight.
Also injury compensation is probably another note. Maybe guys have to have so many fights with the UFC before injury comp becomes a deal, but things like these are key points to anything that isn't a union.

 

[FUME5]

Seeing Cowboy and Tim there, I'm sure what most are really trying to do is make sure they are paid in full from the UFC/Reebok for doing their job and showing up to the fight.
Also injury compensation is probably another note. Maybe guys have to have so many fights with the UFC before injury comp becomes a deal, but things like these are key points to anything that isn't a union.

I'm all for these guys getting paid what they're worth (and getting medical compo etc) I just can't see what an "association" that seems to have little collective bargaining power is going to be able to do.

Regardless, I hope it's a step in the right direction.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I'm all for these guys getting paid what they're worth (and getting medical compo etc) I just can't see what an "association" that seems to have little collective bargaining power is going to be able to do.

Regardless, I hope it's a step in the right direction.

Dana is going to take one look at their sick ass logo and give in to all of their demands.

 

[N° 2048]

Fuck, I just want to watch two people beat the shit out of each other but have them paid properly/get what they need afterwards.

 

[FUME5]

Dana is going to take one look at their sick ass logo and give in to all of their demands.

"Shit, that's the best logo you could afford? Alright ya goofs, I'm bumping it up to 20 and 20"

 

[brentech]

"Shit, that's the best logo you could afford? Alright ya goofs, I'm bumping it up to 20 and 20"

probably the best case scenario.