Yup.
Without actors, there can be no movies. Do you know the historical and cultural significance movies have? Now tell me how MMA can claim even 1/4th that. I'll wait.
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Yup.
Without actors, there can be no movies. Do you know the historical and cultural significance movies have? Now tell me how MMA can claim even 1/4th that. I'll wait.
Exactly. Again: she literally said the same thing about football right before it and you don't seen NFL fans giving two shits.
I don't even consider sports or athletics in general as "art", unless you consider human expression is just intrinsically art then why would you?
Really? You don't think creativity comes into play?Tell that to Yair, Pettis, McGregor, etc.
Acting is remembering lines someone else wrote.
Maybe because football isn't an art?
Oh my fucking god you really have no idea what you're talking about.
parrotbeak
Member
Trolling is a art.
Following your own argument, you're really throwing the athletes that trained their whole lives to get into college football/NFL/CFL under the bus.
Actors aren't as important as directors or writers. Hell, I think cinematographers create more art than any actor.
Yes.
Doesn't matter. Fighters need coaches. Actors need directors. Follow your own logic if you're actually going to try and equate actors with fighters in terms of artistic significance.
How is football not an art if MMA is? I'm curious now.
Dost thou exude sanguine fluids?
You tried to equate actors to making history and pop culture. Sure, they're part of the machine, but they're only emphasized because that's what people see.
The people behind the scenes are the one actually making the art.
I don't believe acting and fighting can be directly related on 1:1 level at all.
Can we at least ask why she felt the need to criticize MMA? She wanted to equate it to low brow, knuckle dragging entertainment.
If you're okay with that, than that's fine. You should at least understand why others would not agree with her or you.
Not an art to me either. When it happens outside of the cage, some MMA fighter beating the crap out of a random person. Is he performing an art?
It's just a regulated fight. I just don't feel it's very artistic anymore when two people are beating the crap out of eachother.
I've been enjoying it for many years, but I don't find it an art at all.
It's just a regulated fight. I just don't feel it's very artistic anymore when two people are beating the crap out of eachother.
I've been enjoying it for many years, but I don't find it an art at all.
parrotbeak
Member
This is the worst conversation I have ever read.
I honestly have no opinion on if football is an art or not because I know jack shit about football.
That's the difference between Streep and I.
Hei guys, have you heard about Parkour?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOsWF8_BWqi/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOsWF8_BWqi/
Now this is performance art I can get behind.
parrotbeak
Member
Pauteur
I think we can all agree it's time for BJ to retire to the art of taro farming.
Rumblebones
Banned
Way I see it, the art lies in the discipline.
MMA is a sport. The individual disciplines that make it up, the martial arts, are as much part of the arts as writing, acting, whatever.
MMA is a sport. The individual disciplines that make it up, the martial arts, are as much part of the arts as writing, acting, whatever.
I feel like the combining of the individual disciplines into one cohesive application should constitute it as an art. The years it takes of refinement to have the right metrics in each discipline and when you're able to flow from standing to the ground to the clinch..etc - shit is beautiful to watch. At the end of the day, all art is subjective so this is probably a completely bullshit statement anyway so meh.
Rumblebones
Banned
Kavanagh is legit.
killamajig
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boybrushdRED
Member
According to MMA sun, Robbie Lawler left ATT and looking for another gym https://twitter.com/MMASun/status/819330222977912832
10-8 Kav
Sato Koiji
Member
In MMA someone from 0 can make it through discipline and heart. The most beautiful and inspiring moments come from combat sports. Theres nothing better than seeing the truth inside the ring/cage and witnessing somebody just trying to do better for himself.
Streep doesnt have a clue.
Streep doesnt have a clue.
man, meryl is never going to hear the end of that one - people need to relax (that message by kavanaugh is BRUTAL holy shit lol), she just said it without thinking and prob regrets it by now im sure. she just meant we are becoming a brute country that only cares about football and fighting? I Think? Not sure what she was saying tbh, people need to relax though this is an 80 year drama actress lol
SwipeLeftHoney
Banned
A nice read on fighters and fighter pay. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...om&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Sato Koiji
Member
Fighter pay again? If you cant make a name for yourself you will never get huge paydays.
For Chael talking did the trick. For somebody like GSP/Anderson fighting did the trick. Unfortunately theres alotta guys where neither does the trick.
For Chael talking did the trick. For somebody like GSP/Anderson fighting did the trick. Unfortunately theres alotta guys where neither does the trick.
Jest Chillin
Member
I, too, recognize the beauty of well timed cycles, hiding/running away from surprise testing, starting melee's at pressers, and insulting your opponents culture in hopes of more buys.
Chael Sonnen selling the hell outta this fight with Tito. He hasn't lost his touch.
Also props to Bellator for having a pretty damn good production team.
Also props to Bellator for having a pretty damn good production team.
The new owners love interim belts.
Also heard UFC was looking to make Tyron vs. Nick Diaz , but Nick wanted too much money.
Rumblebones
Banned
Woodley confirmed this.
I'm glad Diaz didn't take the fight. He doesn't match well with Tyron at all. Amazing wrestling, ridiculous speed and disgustingly powerful leg kicks. Nah, I'm a big Diaz fan, but Woodley is kyptonite.
Maklershed
Member
Everyone is gonna have an interim belt til 2017 is over.
Edit: watching Mackenzie Dern dance is my favorite thing ... https://instagram.com/p/BPLfnIKBV_I/
Edit: watching Mackenzie Dern dance is my favorite thing ... https://instagram.com/p/BPLfnIKBV_I/
Sweeney Tom
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Fight Pass is free for the weekend, from 11:59 PM Eastern tonight through Sunday same time.
Interim belts are only going to happen more and more when you consider that all of their big draws are going to be out the first half of 2017. WMA is trying to make their 4 Billion back.
Conor? Not until sometime in summer
Ronda? Lol.
GSP? Still can't figure out contracts.
Jones? Not until July.
Conor? Not until sometime in summer
Ronda? Lol.
GSP? Still can't figure out contracts.
Jones? Not until July.
juliushandle
Member
Cody trying to cut in line ahead of Conor
Maklershed
Member
Please no. I can't handle any more "___ vs Mayweather" discussions.
Rumblebones
Banned
Maddening as these interim titles can get I've come around to the lightweight division situation.
Conor has every right to taking a break given his activity, however, he just got the belt and decided to take time off. Apparently the 10 month hiatus floated initially might not be accurate, but as an unproven champion, he shouldn't be taking time off when he's fit to fight and there are some very deserving contenders vying for the belt.
I think the timing of it all is just very shitty.
Conor has every right to taking a break given his activity, however, he just got the belt and decided to take time off. Apparently the 10 month hiatus floated initially might not be accurate, but as an unproven champion, he shouldn't be taking time off when he's fit to fight and there are some very deserving contenders vying for the belt.
I think the timing of it all is just very shitty.
Not going to be mad at a guy wanting to be with his girl during the hardest months of pregnancy and when the kid arrives.
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