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Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate |OT2| "OT" means Official Thread!
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sonikokaruto
Banned
Does anyone know the price for this game on the eShop for the wiiU?
Just got the wiiU and i'm double dipping
Just got the wiiU and i'm double dipping
It was on sale for $20 at the beginning of the year. However, I think the price of the eshop version is $39.99 now.
sonikokaruto
Banned
Went digital
Digital >>> gutted gamestop new.
Downloads are as fast as on the playstation network!
Digital >>> gutted gamestop new.
Downloads are as fast as on the playstation network!
TheCongressman1
Member
I went to buy it today, checked Walmart and Target, and they are both out of stock in store and online. I found that odd. I guess they aren't shipping any more? Well, I still am not going to buy digital. I'll try to get it used online or something.
How reduced are they? It's about 1.8 seconds between areas on disc.
sonikokaruto
Banned
It's faster than the 3ds version at loading
sonikokaruto
Banned
Desire sensor
Cap it.
But I can't carve the monster if I capture it, so wouldn't that lessen my chances of getting it?
EDIT: Just checked. So if you kill a monster you can carve it's corpse 3 or 4 times but if you capture it then you get 2 extra rewards at the end of the quest. According to Kiranico there's a 5% chance of carving a Rathian Spike out of a Rathalos, but there's a 7% chance of getting a Rathian Spike at the end of a Rathalos kill/capture quest as a reward. If my math is correct, my odds are still better if I kill it instead of capture it, right?
EDIT2: Welp, it worked. I captured a Rathian and got a Rathian Spike at the end of the quest. I guess there are some things about MonHun that I will just never understand.
To be more specific, capturing usually offers better chances at more rare parts at the expense of worse chances at more common parts. Like if you just need a Rathalos Scale+, you'll want body carves - but capture if you need a Rathalos Ruby. It makes sense because capturing is a little more involved in terms of preparation and materials.
It's also a good way to shave off a few minutes of hunt time if one just wants to get the quest over with.
It's also a good way to shave off a few minutes of hunt time if one just wants to get the quest over with.
The math should be simple, but remains somehow still confusing.
If you have 2% for carve and 2% for capture for a ruby for example:
3 x 2% for carve
2 x 2% for capturing
So carve is better! (but maybe riskier or takes longer)
You get additional % for break rewards and for tail carve and for shinning "tears".
You can boost your chances by eating (the right combinations) and with armor skills. This goes for carving and for capturing.
sonikokaruto
Banned
And you go from 2% to 3%.
That's if you need it.
If you don't need it, sum up 20%. Just becuz
That's if you need it.
If you don't need it, sum up 20%. Just becuz
It's time to hug Poogie.
It's not necessarily true in all cases, though. Take Lrg Wyvern Stones, for instance. It's 4% per body carve or 3% for capture rewards. Since Plesioth has 4 carves, killing it works out to:
1 - (1 - 0.04)⁴ ≅ 15% chance of at least one per G rank Plesioth
but capturing works out to:
1 - (1 - 0.03)² ≅ 6% chance of at least one per G rank Plesioth
since there's 2 capture rewards per monster.
There's even a few cases where quest rewards give the best odds (like the "Plain Dangerous" quest for Diablos Hardhorns). All we can do is run the math and hope for the best.
So in the case of a Rathian Spike, my odds are 1-(1-0.05)^3 = 14% if I kill it (assuming I get 3 carves), but there's also a 7% chance I get it as a reward for completing the hunting quest. Since I don't get anything for just capturing a Rathian, I have to complete a capturing quest which also has a 7% chance of rewarding me a Rathian Spike. Is it correct that capture quests give you 2 more rewards than hunting quests? If so, my chances of getting it as a reward are 14% higher if I do a capture quest than a hunt quest which negates the advantage that the hunt quest gives by allowing me to carve. So my odds of getting it from a hunt quest and a capture quest are about equal (unless Rathians give more than 3 carves), right?
Is there a way to see how many carves a monster has and how many rewards a quest gives?
If comparing "Dragon Lady" (the Rathian hunt quest) with "A Royal Rumble" (the Rathian capture quest), you're better off killing it for the carves since the quest rewards options for spikes are the same (4, 7% chances on either quest) but there's no capture reward chance. Though it's best to get the tail off if possible for that big juicy 20% tail carve chance.
The GameFAQs carve guide is another useful resource since many of the totals are calculated already. Most monsters have 3 carves, but very large ones (i.e. Duramboros, Plesioth, etc.) give 4. Unfortunately, knowing the number of carves or quest rewards chances is something you'll have to extrapolate from the carve guide or learn from experience since Kiranico doesn't list that info.
The GameFAQs carve guide is another useful resource since many of the totals are calculated already. Most monsters have 3 carves, but very large ones (i.e. Duramboros, Plesioth, etc.) give 4. Unfortunately, knowing the number of carves or quest rewards chances is something you'll have to extrapolate from the carve guide or learn from experience since Kiranico doesn't list that info.
So you don't get more rewards for completing a capture quest? I guess I just got lucky when I got it from the capture quest.
Your 2 capture rewards show up in the rewards screen after the quest alongside the quest rewards, so you'll wind up sorting out more stuff than usual.
What do you mean by "sorting out more stuff than usual"?
Instead of having to decide whether to "Take", "Sell" or "Put in Box" ~7-8 different monster parts on the rewards screen, you'll have ~9-10 because all the capture rewards sit alongside the quest rewards once the quest is finished.
Oh, but since I get more rewards for completing a capture quest how is it that my odds are still better if I do a hunt quest? I know that I wouldn't be able to carve the monster if I do a capture quest, but wouldn't the extra rewards that I get at the end of the quest make up for that?
The extra 2 rewards for capturing come out of the capture rewards odds and not out of the quest rewards odds. So since Rathian Spikes can't be gotten by capturing, those 2 capture rewards on the rewards screen will be a Rathian Shell, Rathian Scale, Rath Marrow, Flame Sac or Rathian Plate (at low rank).
Ivan A Nguyen
Member
The struggle to wait for MH4U is real. I've been eyeing the PSP versions of Monster Hunter recently, but I don't know if I have what it takes to start using the 'claw'. The demo for my PSP makes targeting seem like a nightmare. I don't even want to play the game away from my house so I should just stick it out on the Wii U and 3DS, but the lure of something new is becoming too great. I'm HR7 now. Is there anything big and new I have yet to see in MH3U?
1:10 shows off the difference quite well imo
Clockwise from top left; disc, internal HDD, external HDD, SSD, external HDD. Just an exaggeration but it does shave off like a few seconds. Only paying $20 for a digital copy helps despite paying $60 for the disc.
commanderpepper
Member
I'm finally at lvl 9 star quests in the village
sonikokaruto
Banned
congrats!
if anyone needs a status gunner who knows how to cut tails with slicing S, add me
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Ah, now I understand. Thanks.
Wolfe
Member
HR8+ introduces some new subspecies and with them some of the games best gear.
What city
make one and I'll follow. Shit tons of lurkers on here; they'll be ready to pounce and join in.
Lance is the best wepon for under water fights.
sonikokaruto
Banned
U guys still online?
I'm not really a fan of HR200 players coming into low/high rank rooms and stunlocking monsters to death in 2 minutes. It's cool if you want to get to G-Rank this instant or want to grind for gems, but it's pretty boring. ( ｡_｡
Although, even with rank appropriate players multiplayer tends to make this game pretty easy already. As long as they're not one of those players who let other people carry every quest and never developed his own skill.
Eyeballing the video timer:
Starting quest: 6.7 seconds disc, ~4 seconds Wii U memory
Moving between areas: ~1.8 seconds disc, ~1.1 seconds Wii U memory
Pretty good but not "dealing with Nintendo's digital policies and lack of sales" good IMO.
Although, even with rank appropriate players multiplayer tends to make this game pretty easy already. As long as they're not one of those players who let other people carry every quest and never developed his own skill.
Eyeballing the video timer:
Starting quest: 6.7 seconds disc, ~4 seconds Wii U memory
Moving between areas: ~1.8 seconds disc, ~1.1 seconds Wii U memory
Pretty good but not "dealing with Nintendo's digital policies and lack of sales" good IMO.
I'm not really a fan of HR200 players coming into low/high rank rooms and stunlocking monsters to death in 2 minutes. It's cool if you want to get to G-Rank this instant or want to grind for gems, but it's pretty boring. ( ｡_｡
Although, even with rank appropriate players multiplayer tends to make this game pretty easy already. As long as they're not one of those players who let other people carry every quest and never developed his own skill.
Eyeballing the video timer:
Starting quest: 6.7 seconds disc, ~4 seconds Wii U memory
Moving between areas: ~1.8 seconds disc, ~1.1 seconds Wii U memory
Pretty good but not "dealing with Nintendo's digital policies and lack of sales" good IMO.
Online is balanced for around 2 people as it's unchanged from its portable counterpart. Makes perfect sense once you consider how hard it is to get 4 people like that
I'm not really a fan of HR200 players coming into low/high rank rooms and stunlocking monsters to death in 2 minutes. It's cool if you want to get to G-Rank this instant or want to grind for gems, but it's pretty boring. ( ｡_｡
Although, even with rank appropriate players multiplayer tends to make this game pretty easy already. As long as they're not one of those players who let other people carry every quest and never developed his own skill.
Eyeballing the video timer:
Starting quest: 6.7 seconds disc, ~4 seconds Wii U memory
Moving between areas: ~1.8 seconds disc, ~1.1 seconds Wii U memory
Pretty good but not "dealing with Nintendo's digital policies and lack of sales" good IMO.
Can't really argue the policies but MH3U is one of the few games to go on sale multiple times on both 3DS and Wii U.
Pila
Member
You're right, it's like you're not playing at all. When I was low/high rank I used to tell them: "Thanks for helping, please don't wear end-game stuff". Sometimes they played in their undies just to teach me a lesson. :lolI'm not really a fan of HR200 players coming into low/high rank rooms and stunlocking monsters to death in 2 minutes. It's cool if you want to get to G-Rank this instant or want to grind for gems, but it's pretty boring. ( ｡_｡
Nothing wrong with a room "HR5 only" if you feel like it, veterans should not kill your fun.
Butting into low or high rank rooms with G rank gear and finishing the quest in a couple of minutes isn't doing anybody any favors; it's best to let people with roughly the same level of experience figure things out on their own. I do keep a set of high rank armor and some high rank weapons around for emergencies though, just because I'll help out anybody who asks.