Sseklebeast
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I just got to my Hr1 urgent (been doing offline mode) so you can add me if you want.
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Monster Hunter 4 |OT| Slay 'em, Skin 'em, Wear 'em
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Sure I will add you tonight when I get home from work! =]
Btw they seems to dumb down Slash Axe Sword mode, it's kinda slow now.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
damn I still need to add all the new folks. sorry bout those who sent a pm, got called away for work so was out of town for a week. will add you in later tonight!
Are those plates? If so he has them in both this and P3rd.
Making the shaggy maga set? Took me like 5 or 6 zins, 20 sounds pretty unlucky. At least, low rank zin should go down pretty quick with HR gear.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Because dat fucking gekirin. Its the one item that every veteran mh player knows and hates.
Just be happy its not MHF(rontier not Freedom) drop rates. Since I think it was 1-2% lol
*Edit F for Frontier not Freedom.
Oh I've been there (　・´ｰ・｀
Gems have always been more my bane but this time around I have mountains of them while this gekirin won't drop.
Yeah, I was wrong as Zino doesn't have plates in MH3G. Kinda confused.
And I have to say that the Insect Staff is awesome shit. Best weapon ever!
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Oh I've been there (　・´ｰ・｀
Gems have always been more my bane but this time around I have mountains of them while this gekirin won't drop.
I used to hate the monoblos heart. That shit NEVER dropped for me. All my friends had multiple but I never got a single fucking one. D: EVER.
So I gave up on that armor set and just went to find something else instead. I miss that monster since was so much cooler of an armor set than diablos.
I'm quite sure you need a 斬れ味+5 charm for that combination.Has anyone made a site like this yet for MH4?
http://game-cap.com/mh3g/data/makelist1.html
Yearning for that endgame 匠、切れ味、回避性能＋１　set
Also is there an established method to farm high rarity charms yet (´･ω｀･
However in end game it might be easier to have both 真打 & 切れ味, where 真打 = 匠 and attack up combined.
ｷﾀ━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ━━━━ｯ!!
Tried an infected zinogre fight and got it first run from the rewards.
━━━━ｯ!!Tried an infected zinogre fight and got it first run from the rewards.
Hm, yeah that would be ideal, but probably a lot more work than it's worth. Had to charm snipe for 2 days in 3u to get a charm that gave me a similar setup. Maybe I will get lucky with alchemy (´・ω・`)
Garou
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Force it! Bring shock trap & material and go straight for the tail with a great sword.
Trap --> Attack --> build trap and repeat. Once the tail is off, carve. If it drops beat it or cart, if not just retire and repeat.
In MH3G there was an event-armor (pirate-set) that gave an additional carve on everything, with that you would get that thing in less than 30 minutes.
how does alchemy even work? just put in 3 charms I don't want and get a new one? or should I actually put in good charms?
should I pick the last option with random outcome?
or the 3rd?
or something else?
sooo confused...
just put in 3 charms I don't want and get a new one?
First part is correct, you put in 3 charms you don't want. However, you do get more than 1 new charm after alchemy. Sometimes I put in 3 and get 6 new charms.
should I actually put in good charms?
There are 4 categories of charms: Rare 8-9, 5-7, 3-4, 1-2. They come from 歪んだお守り, 古びたお守り, 光るお守り, なぞのお守り respectively.
If you use 3 rare 7 charms for alchemy, it will never give you rare 8-9 charms, but only the ones equal or below class. Unless you are really impatient, don't waste your time mining 古びたお守り, but just play guild quests with level 80+ to get rare 8 charms from rewards, then use alchemy when you get 3 of these.
Just to be clear, I tried using two rare 8 charms + one rare 7 charms for alchemy, and it did give me a rare 9 charm, so it is differentiated by the class of the charm.
should I pick the last option with random outcome?
Yes, the one that says 天運 is known to give the best charms.
Tips for best results at alchemy:
1. Save at the house at the sky mountain village.
2. Give 3 (or 6/9) rare 8-9 charms you don't want, choose 天運 alchemy.
3. Take the 1 star Great Potion quest in the village, finish within 5 seconds.
4. DO NOT SAVE when you finish the mission.
5. If you gave 6 (or 9) charms for alchemy, repeat steps 3 and 4 once (twice) more.
6. Check out the charms after alchemy. If you don't see anything good, restart the game WITHOUT SAVING (once I sold everything but accidentally saved...)
Sounds interesting. Think I'm gonna have to compile a small reference list of skill names and translations though. Squinting and trying to decipher the tiny hieroglyphics look-alikes on the 3DS, then painfully matching them to something on an online page with (slightly) different fonts (which only adds to the confusion) got old like 2 weeks ago.
Yeah I eventually started to recognize common and important skills like evade +/dist, attack, critical eye, element attack, guard +, stinger, destroyer, handicraft, etc etc
That's awesome. I think there's alchemy in mhg or dos, can't really remember.
thanks for helping me hr up'ing the last stretch.
I know about it, just didnt know wheres the location. Even if I crouch il be missing that last carve :S
Yup took me a while. I recommand hunting the low rank one. I got it from body carves
Finally got around to at least adding the ones who have their FC in the OP. If you haven't already, add me back Shurayuki: 4081-6450-5195 - LoVendoR
If you play a lot of online multiplayer chances are you have some Veggie Elder tickets to exchange for stupid drops like Gekirin 逆鱗　(and even tamas but personally I don't have a gold ticket yet)
Silver ones ( 銀の山菜組引換券 ) get you the gekirin. They're the white colored tickets.
Here's the chart, a cursory glance tells me there should be Rathalos, Rathian, Goa and Zinogre gekirins there.
That's a good tip about carving, I guess it doesn't screw around with carving skills? (Not that it matters, better to get all the carves like that, you probably can't get additional carves off anyways). Crouched gathering seems bugged and makes gathering skills not apply from what I have read.
Shurayuki: 4081-6450-5195 - LoVendoRIf you play a lot of online multiplayer chances are you have some Veggie Elder tickets to exchange for stupid drops like Gekirin 逆鱗　(and even tamas but personally I don't have a gold ticket yet)
Silver ones ( 銀の山菜組引換券 ) get you the gekirin. They're the white colored tickets.
Here's the chart, a cursory glance tells me there should be Rathalos, Rathian, Goa and Zinogre gekirins there.
That's a good tip about carving, I guess it doesn't screw around with carving skills? (Not that it matters, better to get all the carves like that, you probably can't get additional carves off anyways). Crouched gathering seems bugged and makes gathering skills not apply from what I have read.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6kXvEaS-pgZSEpNWWh5M3hYNGM/edit?usp=sharing
Created this spread sheet recording the armors and decorations using data set from Japanese website. Feel free to download.
Created this spread sheet recording the armors and decorations using data set from Japanese website. Feel free to download.
Nice! We just need to translate it to English now.
Some reference sources (MHP3rd):
Armor skills: http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MHP3rd:_Armor_Skill_List
Decorations list: http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MHP3rd:_Decoration_List
Yes!
The room is full, but random people. Maybe Fest makes a new room, or you make a room. When I make a room, no one can join for some odd reasons. :<
edit: I add your friend code!
edit2: done!
edit3: Your room seems to be full.
Can you open a new room?
Yeah sorry. ;(
Anura, briola, pero and me.
Wow. We played for like 3 hours or something. I got to HR22... (ಠ_ಠ
Had a great time with Fest, perorist and Anura! \(^.^)/
I really need better armor though. I got one shotted in the end. Low rank rare 3 gear doesn't cut it anymore. :lol
Need to search for a good set with guard+2 and guard up.
Had a great time with Fest, perorist and Anura! \(^.^)/
I really need better armor though. I got one shotted in the end. Low rank rare 3 gear doesn't cut it anymore. :lol
Need to search for a good set with guard+2 and guard up.
Yeah good hunts guys. You did pretty awesome there with just 160def, briola.Wow. We played for like 3 hours or something. I got to HR22... (ಠ_ಠ
Had a great time with Fest, perorist and Anura! \(^.^)/
Yeah good hunts guys. You did pretty awesome there with just 160def, briola.
Haha thanks! Made the armor talisman after we killed jho, that gave me like 20 or 30 more. :lol
Well since you guys were full I played a bunch with some JPN guys.
Upgraded my 'slosion rod I got yesterday fully and then got myself a literally shiny new golden armor (rathalos rare species). Some crazy 7 minute hunts in there (and that was us unwillingly killing it even though we usually capture). And while we're (not) talking about tamas/jewels, got 2 female firedrake jewels from the first two hunts. Ended up with ~6 while collecting the other stuff. Droprates seem kinda ok in this game, though of course when you really want something it doesn't drop (still need a Bracchi jewel and zino gekirin).
Now I need some -don't laugh- Gerios to gem evasion distance or some egg delivery to max out Lucky. <- Indefinitely postponed.
It's crazy how expensive the rod was, easily upwards of 200k z, I'm so poor Should start using points for food, they're useless anyways, but always end up button mashing the first option.
Well at least some endgame armor, 405 def unupgraded. Will use this for Fire/Dragon enemies and continue with the angel armor for everything else <3
Also I don't want to see golden Rath or giant snakes ever again x.x
Upgraded my 'slosion rod I got yesterday fully and then got myself a literally shiny new golden armor (rathalos rare species). Some crazy 7 minute hunts in there (and that was us unwillingly killing it even though we usually capture). And while we're (not) talking about tamas/jewels, got 2 female firedrake jewels from the first two hunts. Ended up with ~6 while collecting the other stuff. Droprates seem kinda ok in this game, though of course when you really want something it doesn't drop (still need a Bracchi jewel and zino gekirin).
Now I need some -don't laugh- Gerios to gem evasion distance or some egg delivery to max out Lucky. <- Indefinitely postponed.
It's crazy how expensive the rod was, easily upwards of 200k z, I'm so poor
Should start using points for food, they're useless anyways, but always end up button mashing the first option.Well at least some endgame armor, 405 def unupgraded. Will use this for Fire/Dragon enemies and continue with the angel armor for everything else <3
Also I don't want to see golden Rath or giant snakes ever again x.x
GGs everyone
(ヽ´ω`) got hit with a divebomb + beam combo. Really need to make some more monster-specific weapons in general. Brachy gunlance is my only real all-purpose weapon atm. Think I could've fared much better with some duals (´・ω・`)
Is slime still overpowered like in mh3u?
Now now, a lot of weapons have some jumping mechanic ;P
I feel the staff itself is actually nicely balanced on its own, where things get a bit overly effective is in party play. I always play staff so I can't comment too much on how it would be with not at least 1 in the group, but getting around 3 beatdowns per fight feels like shaving off quite a bit of time off every mission.
Explosions really don't feel as powerful as before, but just from the numbers it looks like they should occur as often as before. I used my 'splosion staff on gold rathian and for a time one other guy used the same, but it was a bit hard to tell how often it procced and if it really helped. The Goa or any other high dragon damage weapons feel a bit more powerful atm imho.
Ranged weapons with explosion would be where I'd see it as most effective, and really a group will probably kill the fastest with a Staff and a Ranged in the mix, maybe a Hammer too (the combos we pulled off with Anura using Hammer to KO after a staff beatdown felt strong).
Yeah the jumping is really helpful with to a hammer user. Also I feel the staff takes longer to get the jump mini-game than other weapons.
I think the mounting minigame may be damage based since I've gotten single-hit activations with high-rank weapons on low-rank and village quests where it usually takes at least 2 hits. It might feel like it takes longer with the bug staff because it's relative attack power is lower, idk.
And yeah by OP I meant compared to previous games jumping in general gives you some pretty high-impact staggers and long, easy knockdowns. The bugstaff just has that extra bonus of being able to vault anywhere as long as you have an opening, making those knockdowns much more frequent.
For the first riding-attack it should be the same, 2 jump attacks and 2 vault attacks. But after that, yeah, it does feel like jumping attacks fill up the riding attack meter -if you want to call it that- faster. I can't comment on the SnS and lance jump attacks.
Didn't Capcom say it is based on altitude? Like, jumping from higher above can get you an instant riding attack.
The usefulness of the staff feels like it varies a lot with the terrain and monster speed/attack pattern. If you can get in a lot of vault attacks where it's hard to do jump attacks, thats very useful. If the monster is a bit on the slow side or has long openings between attacks, the staff can provide some dps, because it's not a 'nuke' weapon, the damage is a bit more dependent on getting many hits in.
There are many monsters where something other than a staff is stronger by itself. In a party the beatdowns still make you somewhat useful, but eh, it seems at least not totally game breaking.
Basically what Capcom have added through jumping is ~3 free traps per fight (esp. interesting for the elder dragons), giving you the effects of a run advanced players would usually do (trap/sleep cheese) without the resource drain that getting mats and money for traps brings.
The staff starts out very strong but the other weapons feel like they have a steeper power-curve through raw damage improvement on the weapons and armor to flesh out the playstyle (there aren't really any useful armor skills for staff).
When fighting small and/or fast monsters like the bird wyverns or even Tigarex, it's really hard to hit them, and even if you do, they get out of reach before you can get any real damage in. And landing vault attacks is really hard because of their size/speed. Also Khezu is an ass, always electrifies itself when I vault onto it.