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Llyranor

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Haha @ Beethoven/Brahms hate. Might be jealousy, though!

Here's a bunch of stuff people said about Mozart:

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For one moment in the history of music all opposites were reconciled; all tensions resolved; that luminous moment was Mozart.
- (Phil Goulding)

Mozart is the highest, the culminating point that beauty has attained in the sphere of music.
- (Tchaikovsky)

A phenomenon like Mozart remains an inexplicable thing.
- (Goethe)

Mozart is happiness before it has gotten defined.
- (Arthur Miller)

A light, bright, fine day this will remain throughout my whole life. As from afar, the magic notes of Mozart's music still gently haunts me.
- (Franz Schubert)

Mozart is the musical Christ.
- (Tchaikovsky)

Mozart creates music from a mysterious center, and so knows the limits to the right and the left, above and below. He maintains moderation.
- (Karl Barth)

Mozart's music always sounds unburdened, effortless, and light. This is why it unburdens, releases, and liberates us.
- (Karl Barth)


Mozart's music is so beautiful as to entice angels down to earth.
- (Franz Alexander von Kleist)

Mozart makes you believe in God because it cannot be by chance that such a phenomenon arrives into this world and leaves such an unbounded number of unparalleled masterpieces.
- (Georg Solti)


How can such a disproportionately large number of people have a definite, and unusually positive relationship to Mozart?
- (Wolfgang Hildesheimer)


Listening to Mozart, we cannot think of any possible improvement.
- (George Szell)


Mozart's music is an invitation to the listener to venture just a little out of the sense of his own subjectivity.
- (Karl Barth)


Mozart never did too little and never too much; he always attains but never exceeds his goal.
- (Grillparzer)


Mozart is the most inaccessible of the great masters.
- (Artur Schnabel)


Mozart's mental grip never loosens; he never abandons himself to any one sense; even at his most ecstatic moments his mind is vigorous, alert, and on the wing. He dives unerringly on to his finest ideas like a bird of prey, and once an idea is seized he soars off again with an undiminished power.
- (W. J. Turner)


It may be that when the angels go about their task praising God, they play only Bach. I am sure, however, that when they are together en famille they play Mozart.
- (Karl Barth)


Mozart's music represents neither the prolonged sigh of faith that characterizes so much of the music written before his time, nor the stormy idealism which cloaks most music after him. Rather he is that mercurial balance of the skeptic and the humane. Like him, and in him, we can always discover new worlds.
- (Joseph Solman)


Mozart wrote everything with such ease and speed as might at first be taken for carelessness or haste. His imagination held before him the whole work clear and lively once it was conceived. One seldom finds in his scores improved or erased passages.
- (Franz Niemetschek)


The riddle of Mozart is precisely that "the man" refuses to be a key for solving it. In death, as in life, he conceals himself behind his work.
- (Wolfgang Hildesheimer)


Mozart does not give the listener time to catch his breath, for no sooner is one inclined to reflect upon a beautiful inspiration than another appears, even more splendid, which drives away the first, and this continues on and on, so that in the end one is unable to retain any of these beauties in the memory.
- (Karl Ditters von Dittersdordf)


Does it not seem as if Mozart's works become fresher and fresher the oftener we hear them?
- (Robert Schumann)

If we cannot write with the beauty of Mozart, let us at least try to write with his purity.
- (Johannes Brahms)

Beethoven I take twice a week, Haydn four times, and Mozart every day!
- (Rossini)

Before Mozart, all ambition turns to despair.
- (Charles Gounod)

Mozart encompasses the entire domain of musical creation, but I've got only the keyboard in my poor head.
- (Chopin)

What gives Bach and Mozart a place apart is that these two great composers never sacrificed form to expression. As high as their expression may soar, their musical form remains supreme and all-efficient.
- (Camille Saint-Saens)

The most tremendous genius raised Mozart above all masters, in all centuries and in all the arts.
- (Richard Wagner)

In Bach, Beethoven and Wagner we admire principally the depth and energy of the human mind; in Mozart, the divine instinct.
- (Edvard Grieg)


Together with the puzzle, Mozart gives you the solution.
- (Ferruccio Busoni)

I find consolation and rest in Mozart's music, wherein he gives expression to that joy of life which was part of his sane and wholesome temperament.
- (Peter Tschaikovsky)


Mozart tapped the source from which all music flows, expressing himself with a spontaneity and refinement and breathtaking rightness.
- (Aaron Copland)


Mozart's music is particularly difficult to perform. His admirable clarity exacts absolute cleanness: the slightest mistake in it stands out like black on white. It is music in which all the notes must be heard.
- (Gabriel Faure)

Mozart shows a creative power of such magnitude that one can virtually say that he tossed out of himself one great masterpiece after another.
- (Claudio Arrau)

Mozart's music is free of all exaggeration, of all sharp breaks and contradictions. The sun shines but does not blind, does not burn or consume. Heaven arches over the earth, but it does not weigh it down, it does not crush or devour it.
- (Karl Barth)

The works of Mozart may be easy to read, but they are very difficult to interpret. The least speck of dust spoils them. They are clear, transparent, and joyful as a spring, and not only those muddy pools which seem deep only because the bottom cannot be seen.
- (Wanda Landowska)

I never heard so much content in so short a period.
- (Pinchas Zukerman)

Mozart 's music is very mysterious.
- (W. J. Turner)

Mozart resolved his emotions on a level that transformed them into moods uncontaminated by mortal anguish, enabling him to express the angelic anguish that is so peculiarly his own.
- (Yehudi Menuhin)

Designing an opera by Mozart is like doing something for God-it's a labor of love.
- (Maurice Sendak)

In my dreams of heaven, I always see the great Mozart gathered in a huge hall in which they are reside. Only Mozart has his own suite.
- (Victor Borge)

Mozart's joy is made of serenity, and a phrase of his music is like a calm thought; his simplicity is merely purity. It is a crystalline thing in which all the emotions play a role, but as if already celestially transposed. Moderation consists in feeling emotions as the angels do.
- (Andre Gide)

Mozart said profound things and at the same time remained flippant and lively.
- (Michael Kennedy)

Mozart began his works in childhood and a childlike quality lurked in his compositions until it dawned on him that the Requiem he was writing for s a stranger was his own.
- (Will and Ariel Durant)

Mozart touched no problem without solving it to perfection.
- (Donald Tovey)

Mozart's music is the mysterious language of a distant spiritual kingdom, whose marvelous accents echo in our inner being and arouse a higher, intensive life.
- (E. T. A. Hoffmann)

The best of Mozart's works cannot be even slightly rewritten without diminishment.
- (Peter Shaffer)

Mozart is the greatest composer of all. Beethoven created his music, but the music of Mozart is of such purity and beauty that one feels he merely found it-that it has always existed as part of the inner beauty of the universe waiting to be revealed.
- (Albert Einstein)

Most of all I admire Mozart's capacity to be both deep and rational, a combination often said to be impossible.
- (Allan Bloom)

Sometimes the impact of Mozart's music is so immediate that the vision in the mind remains blurred and incomplete, while the soul seems to be directly invaded, drenched in wave upon wave of melancholy.
- (Stendhal)

Mozart combined high formality and playfulness that delights as no other composition in any other medium does.
- (Roy Blount, Jr.)

It is hard to think of another composer who so perfectly marries form and passion.
- (Leonard Bernstein)

In Mozart's music, all intensity are crystallized in the clearest, the most beautifully balanced and proportioned, and altogether flawless musical forms.
- (Phil Goulding)

The sonatas of Mozart are unique: too easy for children, too difficult for adults. Children are given Mozart to paly because of the quantity of notes; grown ups avoid him because of the quality of notes.
- (Artur Schnabel)

There are three thing in the world I love most: the sea, Hamlet, and Don Giovanni.
- (Gustave Flaubert)

Lengthy immersion in the works of other composers can tire. The music of Mozart does not tire, and this is one of its miracles.
- (George Snell)


Mozart has reached the boundary gate of music and leaped over it, leaving behind the old masters and moderns, and posterity itself.
- (A. Hyatt King)


Mozart, prodigal heaven gave thee everything, grace and strength, abundance and moderation, perfect equilibrium.
- (Charles Gounod)

Who has reached the extreme limits of scale with the same infallible precision, equally guarded against the false refinement of artificial elegance and the roughness of spurious force? Who has better known how to breathe anguish and dread into the purest and most exquisite forms?
- (Charles Gounod)


It is a real pleasure to see music so bright and spontaneous expressed with corresponding ease and grace.
- (Brahms)


Give Mozart a fairy tale and he creates without effort an immortal masterpiece.
- (Saint Saens)


Mozart was able to do what he wished in music and he never wished to so what was beyond him.
- (Romain Rolland)

I listened to the pure crystalline notes of one of Mozart's concertos dropping at my feet like leaves from the trees.
- (Virgil Thompson)

What was evident was that Mozart was simply transcribing music completely finished in his head. And finished as most music is never finished. Displace one note and there would be diminishment. Displace one phrase and structure would fall. I was staring through the cage of those meticulous ink strokes at Absolute Beauty.
- (Peter Shaffer)

Mozart's music is constantly escaping from its frame, because it cannot be contained in it.
- (Leonard Bernstein)

Mozart combines serenity, melancholy, and tragic intensity into one great lyric improvisation. Over it all hovers the greater spirit that is Mozart's-the spirit of compassion, of universal love, even of suffering--a spirit that knows no age, that belongs to all ages.
- (Leonard Bernstein)

21 piano sonatas, 27 piano concertos, 41 symphonies, 18 masses, 13 operas, 9 oratorios and cantata, 2 ballets, 40 plus concertos for various instruments, string quartets, trios and quintets, violin and piano duets piano quartets, and the songs. This astounding output includes hardly one work less than a masterpiece.
- (George Szell)

What a picture of a better world you have given us, Mozart!
- (Franz Schubert)
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
14. Noel Gallagher on Jack White
“He looks like Zorro on doughnuts.”


LOL

This is secretly a rap music topic. Disses galore.
 

DonasaurusRex

Online Ho Champ
JaskoX1 said:
What Kurt said is factual.


I can respect his opinion but he was soon in the same position as GnR or at least anointed the best in the coming generation when other bands were better, so he really didnt have room to talk.
 

N4Us

Member
HixxSAFC said:
Go and listen to the Jam, lad, before saying anything about Weller.

I'm saying this as someone who was really into the Jam when I was younger: His set just wasn't that great.
 

DiscoJer

Member
Chichikov said:
One of my favorites from recent years -

Alice Cooper on Vampire Weekend -

"I do get a little annoyed that it seems like a lot of bands that come out now that I read, 'The greatest band that I've ever heard,'" he said. "And I see them and I go, 'There's absolutely no testosterone in this band.'
"I heard the title Vampire Weekend and I thought, 'Oh, man, that's gonna be great. I gotta see it.' And there are these guys with little Gap T-shirts on and they're singing about I don't know what, it was so light I couldn't listen to it. And I'm going, 'What happened to the balls in rock 'n' roll? Why are American bands so wimpy?'
"I'm getting a lot of bands that are kind of going, 'Oh, the summer in the rain and aren't lightning bugs wonderful?' And I'm going, 'What kind of drug are you on?' I think if you asked Ozzy, Iggy and all the other people that come from our generation, we're kind of hoping the young guys step it up a little bit when it comes to being guys."​

Word.


I generally not a fan of his music (and that's understatement) but he's spot on there.

This is exactly what is wrong with modern rock music (and has been since probably 2000). Sadly, I think it's more a sympton of Western culture just become wimpy, rather than anything music specific.
 

VALIS

Member
"I've never heard anything Wynton played sound like it meant anything at all. Wynton has no voice and no presence. His music sounds like a talented high-school trumpet player to me. He plays things really, really, really badly that you cannot screw up unless you are a bad player. I've felt embarrassed listening to him, and I'm white. Behind his humble speech, there is an incredible arrogance. And for a great black player who talks about the blues - I've never heard Wynton play the blues convincingly, and I'd challenge him to a blues standoff any time. He's jazzy the same way someone who drives a BMW is sporty."
- Keith Jarrett on Wynton Marsalis


Love that last line.
 

dvolovets

Member
VALIS said:
"I've never heard anything Wynton played sound like it meant anything at all. Wynton has no voice and no presence. His music sounds like a talented high-school trumpet player to me. He plays things really, really, really badly that you cannot screw up unless you are a bad player. I've felt embarrassed listening to him, and I'm white. Behind his humble speech, there is an incredible arrogance. And for a great black player who talks about the blues - I've never heard Wynton play the blues convincingly, and I'd challenge him to a blues standoff any time. He's jazzy the same way someone who drives a BMW is sporty."
- Keith Jarrett on Wynton Marsalis


Love that last line.
I don't like Keith Jarrett either, but I agree 100%. The whole jazz purist thing is complete bullshit, not to mention that there are plenty of better players than Marsalis out there. One that immediately comes to mind is Polish trumpeter Tomasz Stanko... he blows Wynton out of the water, technically and artistically.
 
Here's Flea's response to Nick Cave's comments:

There was one review [of Stadium Arcadium] by an English newspaper where the guy really hated us and it was full of insults and descriptions about how terrible and worthless we are and how inane our music is. The guy mentioned that Nick Cave really thought we were a shitty band and printed a quote that Nick Cave had said in that regard. For a second that hurt my feelings because I love Nick Cave. I have all of his records. I don't care if Nick Cave hates my band because his music means everything to me and he is one of my favourite songwriters and singers and musicians of all time. I love all the incarnations of the Bad Seeds. But it only hurt my feelings for a second because my love for his music is bigger than all that shit and if he thinks my band is lame then that's OK.

While Flea is not incendiary in the least, Lydia Lunch has some mean things to say about him:

Nick Cave's making a lot of money, which is braindeath. I mean, going on tour with the same band for 20 years and playing the same songs–I don't care how you twist them, or torture the songs, you know? If it takes to be a posturing grandpa Wayne Newton-sounding bad Vegas-balladeer to get rich, I don't give a shit. I think this is lame. You know, he was one of the great poets and rocked like no other, but he's pathetic. How do these goth kids buy this crap? That's his genius; he's convinced goth kids to listen to their grandfathers' music.
 

Risible

Member
VALIS said:
2. Anton Newcombe on Eric Clapton
“People talk about Eric Clapton. What has he ever done except throw his baby off a fuckin’ ledge and write a song about it?”

What a vile douchenugget. Perhaps if Newcombe had ever been anything more than a pretentious self-absorbed asshole all his life he might know why that's such a fucked-up thing to say.
 
VALIS said:
"I've never heard anything Wynton played sound like it meant anything at all. Wynton has no voice and no presence. His music sounds like a talented high-school trumpet player to me. He plays things really, really, really badly that you cannot screw up unless you are a bad player. I've felt embarrassed listening to him, and I'm white. Behind his humble speech, there is an incredible arrogance. And for a great black player who talks about the blues - I've never heard Wynton play the blues convincingly, and I'd challenge him to a blues standoff any time. He's jazzy the same way someone who drives a BMW is sporty."
- Keith Jarrett on Wynton Marsalis


Love that last line.

Hilarious. Miles Davis would approve.
 

Azuran

Banned
19. Kurt Cobain on Guns N’ Roses
“They’re really talentless people, and they write crap music, and they’re the most popular rock band on the earth right now. I can’t believe it.”


Appetite for Destruction is better than anything Nirvana ever did.
 
VALIS said:
Seems more like Beethoven to me. Is Beethoven generally considered lousy in classical music circles?

Beethoven is the god of all musicians (some take Bach, though) in classical music circles...
 

Derrick01

Banned
Azuran said:
19. Kurt Cobain on Guns N’ Roses
“They’re really talentless people, and they write crap music, and they’re the most popular rock band on the earth right now. I can’t believe it.”


Appetite for Destruction is better than anything Nirvana ever did.

Yup. By far.
 
Azuran said:
19. Kurt Cobain on Guns N’ Roses
“They’re really talentless people, and they write crap music, and they’re the most popular rock band on the earth right now. I can’t believe it.”


Appetite for Destruction is better than anything Nirvana ever did.

That interview was 5 years after Appetite for Destruction and only a year or so before The Spaghetti Incident. Also, I think most of his hate was just for Axl Rose, who managed to start fights with half the people in the industry.
 
Mr. Serious Business said:
That interview was 5 years after Appetite for Destruction and only a year or so before The Spaghetti Incident. Also, I think most of his hate was just for Axl Rose, who managed to start fights with half the people in the industry.

Well, sadly Kurt probably thought he was becoming a caricature, just like Axl Rose, and couldn't stand the thought of it.
 

Sipowicz

Banned
Risible said:
What a vile douchenugget. Perhaps if Newcombe had ever been anything more than a pretentious self-absorbed asshole all his life he might know why that's such a fucked-up thing to say.

oh boo fucking hoo. clapton was a shitty parent who didn't know how to look after his kids. as a result his son unsurprisingly fell off a ledge at which point clapton decided to write a song and have a bit of a cry

clapton is a bigger cunt than newcombe could ever hope to be. take this fine quote for an example


"I used to be into dope, now I’m into racism. It’s much heavier, man. Fucking wogs, man. Fucking Saudis taking over London. Bastard wogs. Britain is becoming overcrowded and Enoch will stop it and send them all back. The black wogs and coons and Arabs and fucking Jamaicans and fucking (indecipherable) don’t belong here, we don’t want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we don’t want any black wogs and coons living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man. We are a white country. I don’t want fucking wogs living next to me with their standards. This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for fuck's sake? We need to vote for Enoch Powell, he’s a great man, speaking truth. Vote for Enoch, he’s our man, he’s on our side, he’ll look after us. I want all of you here to vote for Enoch, support him, he’s on our side. Enoch for Prime Minister! Throw the wogs out! Keep Britain white!"
 

bill0527

Member
Love the '86 line up of Guns 'n Roses. Love Appetite for Destruction.

Love Nevermind and Kurt Cobain.

Sorry Kurt but you were just wrong.

Kurt's feelings are mostly because Axl Rose told Kurt to keep his bitch (Courtney Love) out of his face. And he said it to Kurt's face. But Kurt didn't do shit about it because Axl was flanked by his 2 huge bodyguards and the rest of his entourage in tow.
 

bill0527

Member
brianjones said:
no it's not

guns n roses are one of my most hated bands ever though, along with the likes of AC/DC

i think axel rose is vile


I don't know how you can call yourself a fan of rock music and hate both the original lineup of GnR AND also hate AC/DC.

It blows my mind.

I can understand if someone says, "yeah that shit was totally awesome when it was new and fresh, but I developed a hatred for it because its been overplayed on rock radio for the last 25 years."

Now that kind of hate I can get.

The only part I can agree with you on is that Axl Rose is a complete and utter douchebag nutcase.

But I can totally separate my personal feelings about Axl Rose from the work of pure beautiful rock music art he helped create in Appetite For Destruction. I can separate my hatred of AC/DC because its more directed toward the radio and their constant abuse of AC/DC songs by playing them over and over and over several times per day for decades.
 
goddamn I love The Jam. but Paul Weller commentary its just stupid.

and the eric clapton one, wtf. blind faith and cream for your mr. Newcombe
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Sipowicz said:
oh boo fucking hoo. clapton was a shitty parent who didn't know how to look after his kids. as a result his son unsurprisingly fell off a ledge at which point clapton decided to write a song and have a bit of a cry

clapton is a bigger cunt than newcombe could ever hope to be. take this fine quote for an example


"I used to be into dope, now I’m into racism. It’s much heavier, man. Fucking wogs, man. Fucking Saudis taking over London. Bastard wogs. Britain is becoming overcrowded and Enoch will stop it and send them all back. The black wogs and coons and Arabs and fucking Jamaicans and fucking (indecipherable) don’t belong here, we don’t want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we don’t want any black wogs and coons living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man. We are a white country. I don’t want fucking wogs living next to me with their standards. This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for fuck's sake? We need to vote for Enoch Powell, he’s a great man, speaking truth. Vote for Enoch, he’s our man, he’s on our side, he’ll look after us. I want all of you here to vote for Enoch, support him, he’s on our side. Enoch for Prime Minister! Throw the wogs out! Keep Britain white!"

holy shit. do you have a link?
 

White Man

Member
Misanthropy said:
From these insults, sir Thomas Beechum is an asshole and for some reason everyone hates on Brahms. Why the hate?

I think Brahms gets ribbed a lot for being too much like Beethoven. I kinda find Brahms boring, but I haven't listened to a whole lot of his stuff.

I think Wagner gets pooped on far more than Brahms, overall.
 
White Man said:
I think Brahms gets ribbed a lot for being too much like Beethoven. I kinda find Brahms boring, but I haven't listened to a whole lot of his stuff.

I think Wagner gets pooped on far more than Brahms, overall.

There was this guy in my theory class who was crazy about Wagner. Instructor didn't like this guy or Wagner, so when he was giving us compositions to analyze, he totally stiffed that guy on the Wagner piece. I think the rest of us didn't care too much.


Classical music is SERIOUS BUISINESS.

Also, I took a history of music class and people were rough on rock bands when they first started to get big. Frank Sinatra especially. Wish I could remember the quote, but the guy tore some early rock group a new one.
 

HiResDes

Member
elrechazao said:
28. David Lee Roth on Elvis Costello
“Music journalists like Elvis Costello because music journalists look like Elvis Costello.”


So true
Yeah, can't believe so many people hate on Morrissey's songwriting...Hate on his personality all you want, but his songwriting is excellent.


Edit: Also, Richey Edwards is a fucking idiot
Edit 2: Mumford and Sons are indeed a terrible band, comment entirely warranted
 
Just wathced the Stephen Fry on Wagner documentary and he lays down why Wagner is hated so much. Comes down to Wagner's antisemitism and the Nazi party using Wagner as their hallmark music.

GnR is about 10 seconds seperated from LA Guns and Poison in terms of style. Anyone serious about metal in the day wasn't using GnR as a yardstick, they were using Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Pantera, and Testament.
 
White Man said:
I think Brahms gets ribbed a lot for being too much like Beethoven. I kinda find Brahms boring, but I haven't listened to a whole lot of his stuff.

I think Wagner gets pooped on far more than Brahms, overall.

Wagner is a gaudy douche and Brahms is a grand-master on Bach's level so I find the situation quite agreeable.
 

Stet

Banned
Sipowicz said:

"I used to be into dope, now I’m into racism. It’s much heavier, man. Fucking wogs, man. Fucking Saudis taking over London. Bastard wogs. Britain is becoming overcrowded and Enoch will stop it and send them all back. The black wogs and coons and Arabs and fucking Jamaicans and fucking (indecipherable) don’t belong here, we don’t want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we don’t want any black wogs and coons living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man. We are a white country. I don’t want fucking wogs living next to me with their standards. This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for fuck's sake? We need to vote for Enoch Powell, he’s a great man, speaking truth. Vote for Enoch, he’s our man, he’s on our side, he’ll look after us. I want all of you here to vote for Enoch, support him, he’s on our side. Enoch for Prime Minister! Throw the wogs out! Keep Britain white!"
Ahah, this is amazing. It's like the celebrity version of "not sure if serious" and then you realize that no, Clapton is not an elaborate troll, he's just a lunatic.
 
HiResDes said:
Yeah, can't believe so many people hate on Morrissey's songwriting...Hate on his personality all you want, but his songwriting is excellent.


Edit: Also, Richey Edwards is a fucking idiot
Edit 2: Mumford and Sons are indeed a terrible band, comment entirely warranted

Yeah, The Smiths had some good songs. Never was a fan of Morrissey's lyrics though. Liked his voice, couldn't stand his "wit".

The thing about Mumford and Sons for me is that I heard one of their songs and thought it was really good. Then I heard that same song on the radio and was like "ah cool. This song".. till I realized it was an entirely different song. They all have the same exact rhythm and hook and tempo. It was like Rise Against minus the generic political angle.
 

Zeliard

Member
Haha @ that Nick Cave quote. Strange given that Flea recently said:

Flea said:
Creativity waxes and wanes. We're very lucky. We've made bunches of fucking money. We could be sat on the beach eating burritos, but even when we're pissed off with each other we sit in a room and work. Igor Stravinsky sat at his piano every fucking day. Some days it was rubbish and his wife was chewing his ear off – but he stuck at it. The same thing goes for Nick Cave, the greatest living songwriter. He goes to work! Every day. And that's what we do.

Did they kiss and make up at some point?
 
Zeliard said:
Haha @ that Nick Cave quote. Strange given that Flea recently said:



Did they kiss and make up at some point?
I posted Flea's response in this thread. He basically doesn't care because he loves Cave's music so much.
 

Zeliard

Member
VistraNorrez said:
I posted Flea's response in this thread. He basically doesn't care because he loves Cave's music so much.

Haha yeah. Taking the high road, nice show of class. Still, I lol'd at Cave's comment, and I'm an RHCP fan.
 

thcsquad

Member
DiscoJer said:
This is exactly what is wrong with modern rock music (and has been since probably 2000). Sadly, I think it's more a sympton of Western culture just become wimpy, rather than anything music specific.

I couldn't disagree more. If we're talking about yesteryear, I'll take the musicians who knew how to do something other than macho posturing, like the Beatles, Elton John, and Led Zeppelin. Yeah, Robert Plant had a certain machismo, but he also sang a lot about nature which apparently makes you a wimp, according to Alice Cooper. Cooper is pointing to Iggy Pop and Ozzy Osbourne as what made old rock great? Yeah, that makes about as much sense as I would expect Alice Cooper to make.

I'm not even a fan of Vampire Weekend, but I'll take them over the 'macho' bands of today like Nickelback, Avenged Sevenfold, and the other soulless garbage you'd expect to find at the Uproar Festival.
 

Wanace

Member
I love The Smiths and Morrissey but the guy is just a prick.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...non-apologies/2011/08/02/gIQAQwZzrI_blog.html

Highlight: After the massacre in Norway, Morrissey, a longtime animal rights activist, told a concert audience in Poland, "We all live in a murderous world, as the events in Norway have shown, with 97 dead. Though that is nothing compared to what happens in McDonald's and Kentucky Fried [Expletive] every day."

Hahaha....comparing slaughter of animals to humans, I thought you were better than that, Moz.
 
Chichikov said:
One of my favorites from recent years -

Alice Cooper on Vampire Weekend -

"I do get a little annoyed that it seems like a lot of bands that come out now that I read, 'The greatest band that I've ever heard,'" he said. "And I see them and I go, 'There's absolutely no testosterone in this band.'
"I heard the title Vampire Weekend and I thought, 'Oh, man, that's gonna be great. I gotta see it.' And there are these guys with little Gap T-shirts on and they're singing about I don't know what, it was so light I couldn't listen to it. And I'm going, 'What happened to the balls in rock 'n' roll? Why are American bands so wimpy?'
"I'm getting a lot of bands that are kind of going, 'Oh, the summer in the rain and aren't lightning bugs wonderful?' And I'm going, 'What kind of drug are you on?' I think if you asked Ozzy, Iggy and all the other people that come from our generation, we're kind of hoping the young guys step it up a little bit when it comes to being guys."​

Word.

Metal peaked in the 80's then faded to obscurity. Since then bands have tried to appeal to the bubble gum pop crowd and nearly all of failed miserably. Those that succeed well mostly play for elven-teen year olds or emo (is this word still used?) guys.

And when modern rock and metal bands try to be adrenaline heavy they try to hard and it sucks. Its the 80's and early 90's never existed.

Arthrus said:
7. Elton John on Madonna
“Anyone who lip-synchs in public on stage when you pay £75 to see them should be shot.”

Elton John posts on GAF?

I wonder what he thinks of music now.

Zeliard said:
Haha yeah. Taking the high road, nice show of class. Still, I lol'd at Cave's comment, and I'm an RHCP fan.

Flea was the one with the inoffensive comment, Lydia was the won who hated Nick Cave.
 
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