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[RetroGamingUK]

PS2 may have had a weak lineup, but again, let's go back to the different circumstances, PS2 launched in 2000, it had no competition, by 2001 when the competition arrived it was rolling. Sega was launching Saturn alongside the PlayStation.

It should have, Dreamcast had so many excellent titles release in 2000 and it was going for about £149 when PS2 launched.

Most people didn't consider it though

 

[diffusionx]

It should have, Dreamcast had so many excellent titles release in 2000 and it was going for about £149 when PS2 launched.

Most people didn't consider it though

Well, this goes back to the mistakes discussed in this thread, people didn't trust Sega. And their concerns were justified when Sega shut it down 3 months later.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Well, this goes back to the mistakes discussed in this thread, people didn't trust Sega. And their concerns were justified when Sega shut it down 3 months later.

As I've said before, a self fulfilling prophecy.

People don't just buy consoles based on the existing library, but also upcoming titles. Flicking through the contents and release schedule pages of old CVG magazines, PS1 always had the most games.

I think even from early on PS1 had a more diverse library while Saturn was skewed more heavily towards fighting games in the west.

For example if you wanted a great console FPS PS1 had Doom early on, you're waiting until Exhumed on Saturn to get something of the same calibre in that genre.

 

[Team Andromeda]

I don't bash the Saturn, as I said in this thread multiple times I had one and liked it, but its deficiencies vs. PSX were obvious and there's no reason to pretend otherwise, the matter was settled long ago.

I also said clearly that the problem with the Saturn in terms of market was not necessarily the technical abilities but the games. The PlayStation just had a much better lineup and even in genres where the Saturn did excel early on, like VF2 and SR, you could get extremely good games in the same genre on PSX and way more.

PS2 may have had a weak lineup, but again, let's go back to the different circumstances, PS2 launched in 2000, it had no competition, by 2001 when the competition arrived it was rolling. Sega was launching Saturn alongside the PlayStation.

You come in these threats pretending not to care or not Saturn bashing, buts it all cover for Sega and Saturn bashing. I never blame SONY for the poor sales of the Saturn in the west, but instead the muppet show at SEGA America and that overrated prick Tom K


My point is many of the reasons you use against the Saturn, for its failure in the USA, could have been leveled at the PS2. In the end no one gives a shit about short comings if the system sells millions, the PS2 and 360 show that.

 

[diffusionx]

You come in these threats pretending not to care or not Saturn bashing, buts it all cover for Sega and Saturn bashing. I never blame SONY for the poor sales of the Saturn in the west, but instead the muppet show at SEGA America and that overrated prick Tom K


My point is many of the reasons you use against the Saturn, for its failure in the USA, could have been leveled at the PS2. In the end no one gives a shit about short comings if the system sells millions, the PS2 and 360 show that.

There would be no Saturn were it not for Tom K and Genesis' success in the US. They would've bailed out of hardware before then.

The PS2 had a great lineup by the time the competitors arrived. If GameCube and Xbox came out in 2000 with better games, the story might have been different, but they didn't.

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

comparing Sega Saturn with PS2 is insanity

 

[Team Andromeda]

There would be no Saturn were it not for Tom K and Genesis' success in the US. They would've bailed out of hardware before then.

The PS2 had a great lineup by the time the competitors arrived. If GameCube and Xbox came out in 2000 with better games, the story might have been different, but they didn't.

Sonic sold the Mega Drive end off and SEGA Japan would have made a SEGA Saturn regardless of what that prick Tom got up too. The USA launch of the DC alone was far better to that of the PS2 and also counter all the points you love to bash the Saturn for,... be that In-House sports games, easier to program on, cheaper to buy,, Sonic on day one, amazing day one launch line up

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

The PS2 had a great lineup by the time the competitors arrived. If GameCube and Xbox came out in 2000 with better games, the story might have been different, but they didn't.

If we respect history, Xbox and GCN could come out in 2000, but you know, the games would be rushed, buggy, and would use 50% of these consoles. I doubt anyone would stop buying the PS2.

 

[cireza]

comparing Sega Saturn with PS2 is insanity

Right, Saturn is much easier to develop for.

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

Right, Saturn is much easier to develop for.

probably because it has more than 1,000 games