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My research into Metroid Primes gargantuan cut content.
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The team that worked on the original Metroid Prime were so damn talented, makes me wonder what they're all up to these days and why they're not being paid millions upon millions.
It blows my mind the amount of detail and thought that went into things that were ultimately cut, just incredible. The way the environments constantly speak of a world and a history beyond the room, the way it's seen through Samus' visor and interactions with those incredible environments, the enemies, the bosses, the sound, the atmospheric music, even the start menu tell you about the universe you've just entered, it's fucking masterful. Definitely one of the greatest games ever made and made even more incredible considering it was Retro's first game and the development woes they went through.
Thanks for the insight, Mama.
It blows my mind the amount of detail and thought that went into things that were ultimately cut, just incredible. The way the environments constantly speak of a world and a history beyond the room, the way it's seen through Samus' visor and interactions with those incredible environments, the enemies, the bosses, the sound, the atmospheric music, even the start menu tell you about the universe you've just entered, it's fucking masterful. Definitely one of the greatest games ever made and made even more incredible considering it was Retro's first game and the development woes they went through.
Thanks for the insight, Mama.
RomanceDawn
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Man this is some amazing stuff! Good job!
Oh how I would love to see the Chozo really explored in a new title.
Oh how I would love to see the Chozo really explored in a new title.
Aren't most of the original retro prime team at armature or something?
TheSpaceBetween
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There are a handful of people at Armature and a handful at Bluepoint. There are still plenty of people that worked on the Prime games still at Retro.
Some went there, others went to Bluepoint. Afterwards IIRC they picked up people who worked at Naughty Dog and Vigil Games.
Thanks for this thread.
I want to re-play Metroid Prime so much... I could play it in glorious HD on Dolphin right now but I'm waiting for the full reveal of the NX to see if we're likely to enter an era of Nintendo HD remasters.
I'm gonna take a look at the other threads. Amazing work, Mama, thanks for the bump.
I want to re-play Metroid Prime so much... I could play it in glorious HD on Dolphin right now but I'm waiting for the full reveal of the NX to see if we're likely to enter an era of Nintendo HD remasters.
I'm gonna take a look at the other threads. Amazing work, Mama, thanks for the bump.
Some actually went to Bluepoint?
huh. Didn't know that.
Some even went back to Retro.
Most of the original devs are probably still at Retro, but the creative heads for the Prime series have all but (one?) left.
Whoa really?
Haha guess there's something about that Retro environment that makes it hard to really leave
RevolverRoden
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Cut content? Unfinished shit game like MGSV.
Good shit tho OP
:^)
Whoa really?
Haha guess there's something about that Retro environment that makes it hard to really leave
Well Retro did go through expansions recently, and if you worked there before its probably easier to get vetted to be hired. I suspect Retro may have some of the higher bars of entry in the West given what they represent for Nintendo's brand (and being the only western arm of Nintendo).
Mr. Nice_Guy
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Wow, I've never seen this before, it even heard of any of this. Incredible job MR, can't wait to read this over lunch.
Sometimes it's genuinely for the better though. I don't think Doom would have been as timeless as it is if it had turned out to be more story-focused as originally envisioned.
Like they did with Other M?
What? No. Let's get more art like Andrew Jones's awesome art in this series.
What constitutes "American" designs anyway?
I don't know...
Amazing, Metroid Prime is one of my favorite games of all time. I beat Echoes but never got around to beating Prime 3, I will be doing a run on my Wii U.
Nintendo needs to jump start a new Metroid game with a HD remake of the prime series. That would be dooooooopppppppppppeeeeeeeeeee!!
Nintendo needs to jump start a new Metroid game with a HD remake of the prime series. That would be dooooooopppppppppppeeeeeeeeeee!!
Triggerhappytel
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Amazing topic. Always enjoy reading your research, Mama Robotnik.
Orakio Rob
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Thanks, Mama Robotnik, this thread is just amazing.
I first played Prime on Metroid Trilogy, and by now it's probably one of my most played games ever. I've finished it many times, including 100% runs. Now I have Xenoblade X, Fast Racing Neo and other amazing games to play on my Wii U... so why do I feel this urge to play through Prime once again?
Oh, man, what a great game. Love Echoes and Corruption too.
I first played Prime on Metroid Trilogy, and by now it's probably one of my most played games ever. I've finished it many times, including 100% runs. Now I have Xenoblade X, Fast Racing Neo and other amazing games to play on my Wii U... so why do I feel this urge to play through Prime once again?
Oh, man, what a great game. Love Echoes and Corruption too.
Yes, just remove the cutscenes, linearity and D-pad controls.
Metroid in 3rd person should be doable nowadays:
Platforming this way is doable too.
Would be much more interesting than Metroid Prime 4.
Alex_Mexico
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Great thread, Mama. Somehow I managed to miss this one this whole time.
I also think the time's right for a third person 3D console Metroid. Back in 2002 in the pre Resident Evil 4 over-the-shoulder and L1-to-aim-R1-to-shoot days we weren't ready for it yet but now I'm confident Retro can pull off a third person Metroid title.
I also think the time's right for a third person 3D console Metroid. Back in 2002 in the pre Resident Evil 4 over-the-shoulder and L1-to-aim-R1-to-shoot days we weren't ready for it yet but now I'm confident Retro can pull off a third person Metroid title.
Big follower of his, and he's gone on to do some amazing work. Would love to see him involved in future projects.
Seeing that people are talking about where all the ex Retro staff went to. The lead programmer on the Metroid Prime series Mark Haigh-Hutchinson is now late. He also worked on Zombies ate my neighbors, Dark Forces, Shadows of the Empire, Star Wars Racer and Rogue Squadron. That's several classic games! He also wrote a very highly regarded book on Game Development.
Dark_3nergy
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Really really wish they would be put on another Metroid project. I would love to see some of this art make it into future Metroid games. Like the Chozo Battle armor guy looks so neato!
FutureLarking
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You're acting like Retro is the same studio it used to be. Quite a number of the talent responsible for shaping Prime has moved on, and the studio probably did genuinely jump at the chance to make Tropical Freeze rather than Prime 4 in part because of that. I don't imagine they'd have much of anything other than errant ideas lying around.
Schopenhauerian
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Übermatik;192071282 said:
Just chiming in to agree with posts above, really cool stuff in this thread (as well as all of the other research threads from Mama Robotnik).Übermatik;192076884 said:
This would definitely be interesting to know. Certainly conceivable that some of Retro's old material could be used/re-used/re-purposed for MP4.
Someone at reddit took a look, recently: https://www.reddit.com/r/Metroid/comments/6a8w0o/retro_studios_still_has_plenty_of_staff_from_the/
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