RoninChaos
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Seeing this makes me even more irritated that I could not get into this series.
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My research into Metroid Primes gargantuan cut content.
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I think some of the theorizing is flat-out ridiculous*, but it's a great collection none-the-less!
*IE: the "friendly creature" seems to be concept art for the lumigeks in the impact crater. The multiple environmental thumbnails from said crater are exploring the look and feel for the environment, not necessarily suggesting a huge area. The "speed booster" images look more like double jump and dodge mechanics to me, but who knows. The "flying boss" looks like early concepts for the aero-pirates, which have very similar faces, and the "friendly chozo" looks like a portfolio piece giving us a better look at the models of the chozo ghosts, which, frankly, rocks my face b/c i loved them, and we never got to get a good look at them.
*IE: the "friendly creature" seems to be concept art for the lumigeks in the impact crater. The multiple environmental thumbnails from said crater are exploring the look and feel for the environment, not necessarily suggesting a huge area. The "speed booster" images look more like double jump and dodge mechanics to me, but who knows. The "flying boss" looks like early concepts for the aero-pirates, which have very similar faces, and the "friendly chozo" looks like a portfolio piece giving us a better look at the models of the chozo ghosts, which, frankly, rocks my face b/c i loved them, and we never got to get a good look at them.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Fantastic thread. Metroid Prime was one of my favourite games ever, seeing all this content is incredible.
Great job OP.
Great job OP.
Ollie Pooch
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Thanks for this awesome thread. My favourite game - so cool seeing all this stuff!
Inspectah_Deck
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Hope it´s ok to post in this old thread, but i think it´s the most fitting one for my question.
I´m currently replaying Metroid Prime (Wii Edition) and i stumbled upon this room:
I´m kind of baffled about this, the symbol is nowwhere to be found in the entire remaining game and I never saw it used in the Metroid series.
So why would Retro put the insignia of the german Bundeswehr into the game?
(That also the Nazis used)
I´m currently replaying Metroid Prime (Wii Edition) and i stumbled upon this room:
It was a Missile Expansion room hidden behind some leaves, that you could only find via X-Ray visor. So normally you wouldn´t notice the wall.
I´m kind of baffled about this, the symbol is nowwhere to be found in the entire remaining game and I never saw it used in the Metroid series.
So why would Retro put the insignia of the german Bundeswehr into the game?
(That also the Nazis used)
Because they did not. It's just somewhat similar, probably has no meaning whatsoever. It could be sort of a claw or something just as well.
thebisonxrc
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Wow, fantastic work, OP! I've never seen a lot of this before and it sure is interesting information. Thanks for the research!
Mama Robotnik
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Just a bump to add a bit of new content. Michael Wikan, who was a senior game designer at Retro Studios, has posted two of the earliest Metroid Prime concepts that I have ever seen, from one of his old notebooks:
It really shows how far the game developed, from the earliest rough notebook sketches through to the best game of its generation.
Found one more Relic from my Metroid Prime days. This was my original Sheegoth sketch as I was working out how it should act in the game.
This is how it ended up in game.
It really shows how far the game developed, from the earliest rough notebook sketches through to the best game of its generation.
dancrane212
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Just a bump to add a bit of new content. Michael Wikan, who was a senior game designer at Retro Studios, has posted two of the earliest Metroid Prime concepts that I have ever seen, from one of his old notebooks:
It really shows how far the game developed, from the earliest rough notebook sketches through to the best game of its generation.
Thanks for linking; nice to see folk hold onto those original drawings.
Ein Bear
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Just a bump to add a bit of new content. Michael Wikan, who was a senior game designer at Retro Studios, has posted two of the earliest Metroid Prime concepts that I have ever seen, from one of his old notebooks:
It really shows how far the game developed, from the earliest rough notebook sketches through to the best game of its generation.
Thanks for posting these, I find every little nugget absolutely fascinating. Do you happen to know which room in the final game that sketch turned into? I can't place it off the top of my head.
Center part looks like a pool that's reminiscent of a room in Chozo Ruins
DarkLegion
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Thanks for the update, love seeing stuff like this.
Ein Bear
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Ahh yeah, the one with the half pipe near where you get the Ice Beam?
This one?
Yep, that's what I was reminded of! The pillars sort of match a bit too
SmackAttack
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I don't know if I posted it in this thread before but great work. Amazing stuff to see.
LordOfChaos
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That Chozo concept is gorgeous. Love how it blends sci-fi with what look like traditional themes (though I may just be thinking that because it's feather based...Which makes sense because they're birds, but it reminds me of Mi'kmaq ceremonial wear) I would love to see them explored more. There's the manga...But ehh. I wonder if something like, a left behind Chozo that wants to take the galaxy for himself could happen...
Super Metroid
(Source: Danny Richardson)
This image would appear to confirm that more connectivity content was intended for Metroid Prime. It seems that when connected to Metroid Fusion, the Gamecube would allow full access to the transcendent Super Metroid. Had this been implemented on release, it could be argued that the Metroid Prime disc would consequently contain the two very best Metroid games in existence.
An update on this one. I spoke to someone formerly of Retro Studios about this. It was 100% built into the game, but Nintendo had Retro remove it over a policy they had which prohibited use of third party emulators. I did a video on it with a bit more information here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9YnKOGsmQ
abstract alien
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This thread just keeps delivering, even years later.
That Chozo concept is gorgeous. Love how it blends sci-fi with what look like traditional themes (though I may just be thinking that because it's feather based...Which makes sense because they're birds, but it reminds me of Mi'kmaq ceremonial wear) I would love to see them explored more. There's the manga...But ehh. I wonder if something like, a left behind Chozo that wants to take the galaxy for himself could happen...
That looks amazing
SolVanderlyn
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Glitchesarecool
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Good shit. Reminds me of the hours I spent looking at the concept art pages. The level of detail that went into some of these practice designs is absolutely insane.
The Trilogy is on the E-Shop, it's a great experience for people who haven't played the games!
Oh wow this thread is old as hell, I didn't even realize.
The Trilogy is on the E-Shop, it's a great experience for people who haven't played the games!
Oh wow this thread is old as hell, I didn't even realize.
Mama Robotnik
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A bump for a new concept piece discovery:
A detailed concept of the cut Sheegoth-style boss from Phendara (the one that was replaced with Thardus in the final game). We have seen this image before, but smaller and with much less detail.
(Source: Greg Luzniak)
It was planned to be MASSIVE.
A detailed concept of the cut Sheegoth-style boss from Phendara (the one that was replaced with Thardus in the final game). We have seen this image before, but smaller and with much less detail.
(Source: Greg Luzniak)
It was planned to be MASSIVE.
This makes me wonder if they'd be able to pull off an accomplishment like Metroid Prime today, in that genre, or if the constant talent turnover over the years means that they are such a different studio nowadays that it's best not to try going back to their roots at this point.
LordOcidax
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Wow, best thread ever, excellent job. MP is one of my favorite games.
Man, I hope Retro gets to do another Prime game someday. There's still enough people there from the old days for them to know what they're doing, but plenty of fresh blood that have joined since 2007 who could contribute plenty of new ideas if their DKC games are anything to go by.
Having said that, I'd love to see Queen Sheegoth (or whatever) be resurrected as a boss concept for a new Metroid game. Metroid needs more insanely complex/massive bosses. I want something that shits on Quadraxis!
Having said that, I'd love to see Queen Sheegoth (or whatever) be resurrected as a boss concept for a new Metroid game. Metroid needs more insanely complex/massive bosses. I want something that shits on Quadraxis!
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Oh, wow.A bump for a new concept piece discovery:
A detailed concept of the cut Sheegoth-style boss from Phendara (the one that was replaced with Thardus in the final game). We have seen this image before, but smaller and with much less detail.
(Source: Greg Luzniak)
It was planned to be MASSIVE.
abstract alien
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It doesn't look much like a metroid villain for whatever reason, so I see why it was cut. Still, it's a pretty cool design and hopefully it pops back up somewhere. Definitely looks like a boss you couldn't take many hits from, no matter how big your life gauge was.
Thanks Mama, your research is greatness in action.
Thanks Mama, your research is greatness in action.
TheSpaceBetween
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There are still a hell of a lot of people at Retro that worked on the Prime games still there.
I would imagine it was probably cut for time/system capabilities couldn't meet their vision for it. The boss it was replaced with has some early artwork of it being a lava themed boss in Magmoor Caverns, which is the only area in the game without a boss of any kind, let alone a major boss.
Every good game ever made has tons of cut content. The games without cut content are the shit ones.
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