existensmaximum
Member
I agree with you, word for word. It had so much potential to improve on every aspect of the precious game but instead, did the opposite.
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My thoughts on God Of War Ragnarok
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Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
I haven’t played it and have no real desire to. I did like GOW 2018, platinumed it a few years back on a cleanup run.
I am just not invested in the continuation of the story, I thought it set it up well for a sequel and the gameplay is great, there is just something that hasn’t made me NEED to play this game. It’s the same way I will feel about Horizon 3 when it releases. I was there day on for Forbidden West and felt I didn’t really need to be, the need to pay £70 to play these games at release has been lost on me completely, in quite happy to wait for a deep sale. Some IP’s like TLOU I think I will buy day one as I got Part 2 spoiled for me and wish o hadn’t.
I am just not invested in the continuation of the story, I thought it set it up well for a sequel and the gameplay is great, there is just something that hasn’t made me NEED to play this game. It’s the same way I will feel about Horizon 3 when it releases. I was there day on for Forbidden West and felt I didn’t really need to be, the need to pay £70 to play these games at release has been lost on me completely, in quite happy to wait for a deep sale. Some IP’s like TLOU I think I will buy day one as I got Part 2 spoiled for me and wish o hadn’t.
BbMajor7th
Member
I've not finished it. I enjoyed 2018 - it felt fresh and interesting, but stretching those same characters and format over another 50-hour saga was a mistake. Add in a bunch of extraneous padding and meandering story and it's hard to stay invested.
Dafegamer
Member
I agree that GOW R gets unwarranted hate based on some sections(sorry Atreus but the sections are mostly containing you) but 2018 is still very great imo. The level design feels even more interconnected than GOW R, I like metroidvania games so maybe that's the reason. Still GOW R has that too, but the realms feel more semi open world, compared to GOW 2018Game gets a lot of unwarranted hate for only a few sections that have really poor pacing.
Rest of the game is absolutewith much better combat encounters, set pieces, and side content than in GoW 2018.
I thought the story was particularly strong too, with some real gut wrenching moments and a very cool cast of characters. Yeah, the kid gets annoying at times, he did in 2018 as well and I could have done without his combat.
I do agree though that God of War 2 is the pinnacle of the series just from a pacing standpoint. GoW Ragnarok is excellent however, I would rather re-play it than 2018 which is barebones in retrospect especially the combat encounters/enemies.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
The only driving factor for me to complete the game was the story - unfortunately it feels like a contradicatory mess.
Kratos:
"We must not do X at any circumstances."
5 mins later
"We must proceed with plan X"
5 mins later
"We must stop plan X!"
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keefged4
Member
I'm going through it again on Steam now and honestly don't know if I can be arsed with it a second time, at the Angrboða bit just now and my god I forgot how boring it is. The whole game feels like you have an autistic parrot yapping in your ear the entire time who wont shut the fuck up. I have to agree with others, GOW II & III are peak and the best the series have to offer.
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Spidey 2. HFW and Ragnarok are some of the worst sequels ever created.
JimmyRustler
Member
The game was bloated in one of the worst ways I have ever experienced. I used to be OCD about side quests and stuff. This game cured me of it in a sense.
Kupfer
Member
I already criticized that back then and it's due to the old generation. Instead of loading times, there are slow walk / climbing / crawling sequences that completely destroy the pacing. After GoW 2018, which was okay but retrospectively rather mediocre, I had absolutely no interest in the sequel and even less when I read that it would also be a PS4 game with the same weaknesses.
On top of that, it's just not 'my' Kratos anymore, I know progression this trauma, responsibility and mental maturity that, but I'm just not up for spending hours dealing with a sad old man who used to badass while beating the crap out of cool bosses in a rage in his prime.
Also boy can fuck off.
The artful mincer
Member
Combat is best in Ragnarok than at any point in the series.
So by default it automatically becomes the best in the series!
So by default it automatically becomes the best in the series!
TheRedRiders
Member
2018 was a masterpiece, one of my all time favourites. GOWR the developers got too pretentious and I felt like I was watching some cringy coming of age bratty kid embrace his "dEsTinY" or whatever.
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Alebrije
Member
Easy, if You play GOW games from Ragnarok to previous ones You Will feel an evolution
Ragnarok is a good Game I had fun playing it but is different from firsth 5 games...te tone is more Soft and not just because the father - son theme, Even the enemies feel more "human".
If Good of war were movies lets Say the first games are like Terrifier and the recent ones like Scream.
Still like the IP and surely Will get next Game but is moving to a different setup.
Ragnarok is a good Game I had fun playing it but is different from firsth 5 games...te tone is more Soft and not just because the father - son theme, Even the enemies feel more "human".
If Good of war were movies lets Say the first games are like Terrifier and the recent ones like Scream.
Still like the IP and surely Will get next Game but is moving to a different setup.
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Games of Today
Member
The ending was horrible. The rest of the game was decent. I actually thought the whole Giant grandma was pretty cool. They should have done more with that as well as more with the World Serpent. It also needed more God of War boss fights.
Randall365
Member
It will be interesting to see what happens to the third games of these disappointing sequels (though no doubt high-selling), that Sony keep sharting out - GOW R, TLOU2, Spidey 2 etc.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Madserb2023
Member
2016 was better. More concise with less filler. Games like this actually benefit from being shorter. This is a mistake that Sony keeps making. Uncharted 4 was too long with slower pacing. Same goes for Forbidden West, Ragnarok. Last of Us 2 was probably the worst offender. I could have pulled my head out by the third time I walked around that aquarium. Resident Evil 4 Remake is about half the length of the these games.
sainraja
Member
I totally get that Atreus’ character development could’ve been more polished, but I personally didn’t mind switching to him. It wasn’t because I preferred playing as him over Kratos, but it was a nice breather between chapters. I can see how they could’ve trimmed down some of Atreus’ sections, but overall, I had a great time with the game.
Pandawan
Member
GoW Ragnarok is a pile of shit. Combat is still unbearable, no improvements over 2018 (still awfull camera, damage spungy enemies), pacing is much worse than 2018 (a lot of grindy, boring walks and easy tasks), story is much much worse than 2018 (Atreus is completely unbearable in Ragnarok, Kratos completeley lost any agency and became just a toughguy in service of Atreus). The worst thing is that the setting felt like i am playing a Disney game, not brutal God of War. It is freaking ragnarok on the horizon, the world is dying, and people speak and behave like they live in California, not in this brutal dying world. A complete lack of any dread in the story's vibe.
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Rick Dangerous
Member
I started GOWR a few days ago on my ps5 pro.
Chose performance pro as the gfx setting.
I was not particularly enthusiastic about GOW 2018 (bosses were subpar imho) and was eagerly waiting to play the sequel.
I thought it started strong with the battle on the sled I loved the way it handled. Love the render of the snow too.
But it was short-lived happiness.
What happened to SMS to go from such a marvel that is GOWIII to this ? How can Poseidon fight from 14 years ago literally tramples Thor as the first boss ?
It looks that it's back to 2018 GOW, which was very far from reaching I, II and III.
I did not find the game beautiful also up to now. (App 8 hours in). IQ, frame rate, fpps are all great, nothing to say on the technical side.
But my god, the drawing, the composition, the art are mediocre at best. As if I was watching a marvel movie (which are by all standard the worse you can find as movies...such low American standards...). Where are the artists ? Where are the good drawings, the wonder, the awe ? Standardized shit.
I just played a few hours of returnal. Their artists are so much more inspired for instance.
I'm coming from just playing FFVII remake intergrade. And art was >>>>> GOWR.
Com at was tedious. I don't know. In GOW III I felt powerful, it had impact.
SMS needs to get back on track. They lost their way, big time. Stop doing some games that are inspired by the worst Hollywood has to offer. You were once my favourite dev, come on !
I'm harsh but for the moment, I wipe SSM from my radar. Disappointed.
Chose performance pro as the gfx setting.
I was not particularly enthusiastic about GOW 2018 (bosses were subpar imho) and was eagerly waiting to play the sequel.
I thought it started strong with the battle on the sled I loved the way it handled. Love the render of the snow too.
But it was short-lived happiness.
What happened to SMS to go from such a marvel that is GOWIII to this ? How can Poseidon fight from 14 years ago literally tramples Thor as the first boss ?
It looks that it's back to 2018 GOW, which was very far from reaching I, II and III.
I did not find the game beautiful also up to now. (App 8 hours in). IQ, frame rate, fpps are all great, nothing to say on the technical side.
But my god, the drawing, the composition, the art are mediocre at best. As if I was watching a marvel movie (which are by all standard the worse you can find as movies...such low American standards...). Where are the artists ? Where are the good drawings, the wonder, the awe ? Standardized shit.
I just played a few hours of returnal. Their artists are so much more inspired for instance.
I'm coming from just playing FFVII remake intergrade. And art was >>>>> GOWR.
Com at was tedious. I don't know. In GOW III I felt powerful, it had impact.
SMS needs to get back on track. They lost their way, big time. Stop doing some games that are inspired by the worst Hollywood has to offer. You were once my favourite dev, come on !
I'm harsh but for the moment, I wipe SSM from my radar. Disappointed.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I'm glad I didn't take in any of this negativity before I played the game. I just played it for the first time on my PS5 Pro directly after finally completing the first game. Ragnarok is better in every single way outside of the puzzle help being annoying. My playthrough was roughly 49 hours and I wanted more, so I'll be going back to 100% it I think. I also think I'll play the free DLC mode. That looks awesome as well. I will hear no criticism over this game in the future and see it as an easy 10/10 for my tastes. It's probably the most I've enjoyed a PlayStation Studios game since The Last of Us Part 1.
Rick Dangerous
Member
Well, hopefully I'll enjoy it better as the game progresses, as much as you did. I plan on completing it so we shall see
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semiconscious
Member
& last of us 2 (yeah, i know - awesome gameplay)...
unlike, say, uncharted 2 or god of war 2, not one of sony's recent heavy-hitter sequels has surpassed its predecessor...
AutomaticPrince
Neo Member
Just went back and got the platinum myself after putting the game down for 2 years and this was my biggest complaint as well. The Berserkers were just cheap sometimes and the actual strategy to beat alot of them was just "come back later when you're OP".
samoilaaa
Member
Shake Your Rump
Banned
Same. 2018 was amazing. I think it is a masterpiece. Just before release of Ragnarok, I played through it again. Ragnarok, I played for many hours, but most of those weren't that fun. My wife was watching, so I played for her. I didn't finish. This year, I started over and tried again. I got about four hours in and quit.
I now pretend the game never existed. Same with Forbidden West. These games are erased from my mind.
8bitpill
Member
I haven't played it yet, but I know Sweet Baby Inc laid their poisonous touch on GoW:R.
Werewolf Jones
Member
Progress that this board isn't afraid to say this game is shit now. Which it is
BlitzerRadic
Member
This seems like a case of need to git gud
Seyken
Member
I think this game suffered from the decision of having to end everything in just 2 parts.
I was actually really enjoying everything right up until the point where you get the whole "Ragnarok" reveal.
The story just faceplants completely, starts rushing in mach 6, you get to see Kratos giving a speech to his army of...what, 6 people?
What was supposed to be this final world ending apotheotic battle feels very, very small in scale and not epic at all.
And the final boss fight was such a let down compared to something like Baldur in the first game.
I was actually really enjoying everything right up until the point where you get the whole "Ragnarok" reveal.
The story just faceplants completely, starts rushing in mach 6, you get to see Kratos giving a speech to his army of...what, 6 people?
What was supposed to be this final world ending apotheotic battle feels very, very small in scale and not epic at all.
And the final boss fight was such a let down compared to something like Baldur in the first game.
Lord Malachite
Member
They were the single most unfun part of the game and I could have done without them entirely. While the Valkyries in 2018 felt like part of the story, the Berserkers felt like the definition of filler content. Not a feather in SSM's cap.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I completely agree op 2018 was great. Ragnarok is a not great sequel and I'm baffled it got the reviews it did. Like I was asking myself if I'm playing a different game.
It's a solid 7 out of ten for me, tops.
It's a solid 7 out of ten for me, tops.
Trilobit
Member
The bolded: If I wanted to be forced to take walks I'd get myself a dog. It's bad enough when games force me to run instead of taking the horse or car somewhere, but walking is just absurdly annoying.
The underlined: My problem with a lot of media today when they take place in different eras or even worlds is that the characters often have an uncanny resemblance to the mindsets of modern-day Californians. It's just too jarring.
