Keep in mind due to the past of Sonic entries you really couldn't rank it too highly. Reputation can damage score.
Yeah no I'm not so sure.
Then again something like Other M should have gotten the treatement Sonic 06 got.
Still I played Colours it's a really big step in the right direction.
People claiming that it was great enough to shatter the cycle are generally correct (because Unleashed fit it to a T).
It could have done better but not that much better. In 2010, there were better platformers available (and most of them on Wii?)
It's cool. Didn't mean to be so harsh.
That's ok, on a more hot topic I should have been banned for that (or at least that's how I view moderation here).
The importance of identity is what attracts the consumers to the gameplay, also what makes it unique. You would want your game to have some form of recognition in order to have it seen a decent or an attractive title. When you have nothing to form design from, you end up with a painfully bland game. When you don't establish a design identity for a game, you wind up with games like Sonic Boom or Knack.
Well you certainly make a strong case with Boom and Knack but I feel like that's something closer to simply saying graphics and presentation.
Really for I care about how the game play 1rst and foremost, the lore or the content is pretty important (like how the lore is what made Zelda sooo so great with the timelines and everything).
Stuffs like Bubsy was really interesting because of the millions of way the character interacted with the environment (otherwise it wasn't that good).
To me it's not unimportant but it would never take precedence, that's why NSMB is the superior series to the Galaxy games.
While not Nintendo level , it's alright, very few developers are on that level of polish. The goal here is that everything is functional, responsive, and that the character responds to the environment in a natural way. However I do disagree in the polish level compared to Mirror's Edge or a Rare game. Hell I'd even go far enough to say that Rare releases more janky games than people care to admit. Bless their souls.
I still need to play Banjo Tooie but what I've seen of Rare is more than enough to say that they made very solid and polished stuffs.
Heck Banjo wreck Mario on a superficial level pretty hard, it's a game that's so well made an argument saying Banjo Kazooie is a better game than Mario 64 wasnot utterly ridiculous then and still isn't.
DKR was similarly pretty solid.
Rare had to deal with Nintendo's insane standard for bugs that Sega clearly never gave 2 shits about.
Now evidently you can break the games in a millions of ways but heh that's happens to every single game out there given time.
There's a fundamental issue for Sonic between low and high speed that make the games way more jank by design.
Colours is a very polished game for a Sonic game (seriously coming off Sonic 06, that's surreal) but it's not less polished than say your typical Monster Hunter or something, I'm guess I'm not used to jank games
The reason I state re-playability is because multiple playthroughs are tests of design and mechanics. It solidifies the quality in design, hence possibly the same reasons you may enjoy 3D World, and if that's the case, I totally agree, especially in Champion's Road. Also replayability does help increase your appreciation of a game's design. Did it for me in SA2... Can't say the same for Heroes, Shadow, and 06.
I was bored of 3D World before going to the last level.
As far as replayability goes I prefer replaying games where there's choice in how I tackle a challenge like say Halo over something more linear like the special level of SMG2.
Shadow was incredible in concept (multiple roads and ending that is) but everything else was shite.
Heroes was pretty boring and 06...lol
i know that something like Metroid Prime is one of my fav games ever, it's as replayable as Metroid 2 so it rates highly but doesn't trump all I'd say.
Heroes I got fatigued due to heavy recycling to begin with.
Shadow because it was terrible, and as much as I hate to admit, I was just playing for the story. Gave it away to a classmate a week after beating the true story.
06, same reasons as Shadow, but was the first and last game I ever traded to Gamestop.
I bought 06 for the thread I made here....What a POS.
I have all these games and access to most Sonic games till Generation that I totally missed and Lost Word that missed my radar (and shit WiiU games are expensive).
and despite the replayability these three really lacked the polish. But if you look closely, there's a design lesson in each when considering what was flawed about the execution [Not discussing concept.]
no argument here.
Yeeeee........not really..... -headscratch- I mean it happens afterwards but Unleashed is more of a new direction than anything.
Well Sonic and timeline...lol
Unleashed is after 06, 06 never happened anyway.
Nah, no need to make a longer reply. I generally just respond to things I disagree with, I don't need am elaborate response all nicely wrapped up and addressed to me.
It makes it special
I honestly do struggle to see the natural link between something like Sonic '06 (which has very clear and obvious ties to the Adventure games mechanically) and Unleashed/Generations (Unleashed basically rebooting the foundations of how Sonic controls in 3D). Outside of the wisps (which were even included in Generations slightly), there's not really anything that Colors/Lost World seem to share, or the Colors/Generation are differentiated by. Everything from the boosts, to the drifts, side-shifting, water running, trick system, and so on is shared commonly between these games, yet not with '06 or with Lost World.
There's a clear cut before/after Sonic 06.
Everything after it seems linked as far as Sonic games goes, I guess the controls sucked in Lost World gyro portion but apart from that it's pretty close to Colors, it's pretty much a direct sequel trying to be all Mario galaxy that people liked.
Consider that Sonic Colors levels can be modded into the PC port of Generations, much like Unleashed's were, and Sonic's navigation of these levels still works (with a few caveats obviously due to wisps). Now try and imagine doing this with Sonic '06 or Lost World? That's why we lump them together.
That I didnt know.
Since Colors shouldn't use the Hedgehog engine it should be harder than that.
Then again I guess they ditched everything they did with Black Knight and started fresh with Unleashed and had something working for Wii/PS2 that they reused for Colors
