((It's odd. The way I figured the infiltration would go would end up with Menek no wiser because of Ciel's absurd stealth bonuses and allow for some good character development for Zeilos through Ciel's conversation with him. I was really enjoying mini DM time actually.
((Fleshbane's dramatic entrance obviously put him and Menek on a collision course that I did not anticipate. There's really no reasonable way for Menek to forgive that is the reason I'm struggling. Then Ciel rolling a 4 vs Menek's rolling a 24 (!) means Ciel was caught as well. And then even after getting caught the stakes just kept escalating which makes it hard for Menek to move on as well.
((It also has the effect of weakening the 'Accord' that is supposed to govern the interactions between the party members as it doesn't seem to restrict actions much at all (since the purpose of the Accord is really to ensure the game goes smoothly with every character) which in the reality of the game world Menek would find incredibly odd (wait home invasions are okay?).
((How about this as ways out. For Fleshsbane... nobody in the game universe seems to like Zerome. The idea that only Ciel would help FB with destroying him is not well founded I think. A sub plot of SAED, with all the gods surreptitiously helping to get around the accord, trying to destroy the upstart god would be a cool subplot and get everyone working together to that end. Up to you as it's your thread.
((Ciel, I think you said that if Menek and Ciel talked then it would clear the air enough for Ciel to maybe recognize that Menek is constrained by acting on behalf of Arozora who obviously wouldn't want Asmodeus' position to improve unless the prime directive of SAED didn't demand it. (Same for all the other members as well) Arozora's directive to Menek was to maintain balance after all.))
((Fleshbane's dramatic entrance obviously put him and Menek on a collision course that I did not anticipate. There's really no reasonable way for Menek to forgive that is the reason I'm struggling. Then Ciel rolling a 4 vs Menek's rolling a 24 (!) means Ciel was caught as well. And then even after getting caught the stakes just kept escalating which makes it hard for Menek to move on as well.
((It also has the effect of weakening the 'Accord' that is supposed to govern the interactions between the party members as it doesn't seem to restrict actions much at all (since the purpose of the Accord is really to ensure the game goes smoothly with every character) which in the reality of the game world Menek would find incredibly odd (wait home invasions are okay?).
((How about this as ways out. For Fleshsbane... nobody in the game universe seems to like Zerome. The idea that only Ciel would help FB with destroying him is not well founded I think. A sub plot of SAED, with all the gods surreptitiously helping to get around the accord, trying to destroy the upstart god would be a cool subplot and get everyone working together to that end. Up to you as it's your thread.
((Ciel, I think you said that if Menek and Ciel talked then it would clear the air enough for Ciel to maybe recognize that Menek is constrained by acting on behalf of Arozora who obviously wouldn't want Asmodeus' position to improve unless the prime directive of SAED didn't demand it. (Same for all the other members as well) Arozora's directive to Menek was to maintain balance after all.))