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137 versus Cleveland's 127 last year doesn't seem so bad. Curry's super max versus Lebron's 30 is the difference right there. Cavs are already penciled in for 130ish as well. That number will go up.
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137 versus Cleveland's 127 last year doesn't seem so bad. Curry's super max versus Lebron's 30 is the difference right there. Cavs are already penciled in for 130ish as well. That number will go up.
I didn't realize that, I thought they were trying to get both?
BlackNMild2k1
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Hopefully the entrance fees for the Toaster Shrine Exhibit in the new stadium will cover Klay's new contract next year.
They had to land Hayward first before they could trade for PG otherwise they wouldn't have the cap space to work the deal.
LyleLanley
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beat
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He's making about $26.5M this year. The two realistic options for his offseason were:
* GS renounces Iguodala and Livingston to clear enough cap space to pay Durant the absolute max they could - about $35.4M
* GS re-signs Iggy and Livingston with Bird Rights, then gives Durant a 20% increase*, so $31.8M. Durant would likely take another one-plus-one (two year contract with a player option) so he could get another raise from GSW next year (20% is enough to take him to the max) and then they could either Early Bird him or he could take one more one-plus-one before going for a super max with GSW having full Bird rights.
Given that GS has already re-signed Iggy and Livingston, option 1 is already off the table. There's no chance GS didn't already talk this over with Durant though. If he was really gunning for the $35.4M option, either GS would have known before or everyone would know by now.
tl;dr: yes, he's going to take a "pay cut". By which we really mean he will get a 20% raise instead of a 33% raise.
* this is the part that I think is relatively new in CBAs? Not sure. I feel like under previous CBAs, a capped-out team couldn't offer a 20% raise to a free agent. I don't know. One-and-ones are relatively new too.
but isn't that the whole point? that they didn't give indy anything to go on and indy just went with okc?
Whats the emoji for "Your team got better after you got injured" ?
Vault Dweller 111
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PJ Tucker to Rockets 4/$32
BlackNMild2k1
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That is where Ainge supposedly when wrong, in not laying out a formal offer for them to chew on, with the stipulation that they couldn't finalize until after the got Hayward or some big free agent on board.
But I don't really understand what the rush was for the Pacers to make that deal with OKC.
OKC had nothing super enticing to offer, and PG13 wasn't going anywhere, so they could have waited till later this week to make that trade, and actually got picks and players from Boston.
Unless they really didn't want PG13 to stay in the East out spite or something.
friskykillface
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If the 76ers are at 6,7 or 8 by the end of the season you'll see Cleveland avoid them until the conference finals
Embiid x playoff Amir gonna do it
Embiid x playoff Amir gonna do it
Is he any good?
Maybe it's as simple as Indiana think more of Oladipo than we do.
What's the emoji for "ingles is our number 1 option"
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friskykillface
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Butler: eliminated first round
George: swept first round
Ainge: made it to the conference finals and shared with the Warriors as the only teams to beat the Cavs in the post season
Ainge did it
George: swept first round
Ainge: made it to the conference finals and shared with the Warriors as the only teams to beat the Cavs in the post season
Ainge did it
Sixers making the conference finals this year?
Hyperactivity
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Niiiiiice. Hope there's still enough in that MLE or biannual to give Nene a little extra and get him to stay
https://streamable.com/ezoz
Dude is another bulldog on defense. His mentality is like Beverly's too
Y'all don't have amir anymore tho
One of my favorite parts of this off-season is seeing Shams Charania going head to head with Woj. The vertical is still relevant with shams
Caddywompus
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That's better than I figured HOU would get for the MLE. I expected having to overpay CJ Miles or Anthony Morrow type, it's not like this is a very deep FA pool this year.
Crap I didn't see that
LyleLanley
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That's a great move for the Rockets.
Vault Dweller 111
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Morey for Ainge and the Brooklyn + Kings picks.
Who says no?
Who says no?
Ninja Scooter
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Ainge still wouldn't part with the Brooklyn/Kings picks even if he got to take them with him.
Hyperactivity
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Tucker can also make open 3s, specially from the corner. He's basically a really nice backup for Ariza that can also be played next to Ariza (one of them as the 3, other as a small 4) in crunch time
Iirc he didn't sleep at all or had come straight from a game when he got traded to Toronto and he still went all out his first game. And, in the playoffs, he talked about having no switch because he had never been in the playoffs and just sort of went all out 24/7 (he also got pissed in a motivating way at the other raptors when they seemed sort of resigned after losing game 1 to Milwaukee)
Stay away from dork Elvis
Tbh, Morey probably goes for that. Assets and use of that to help build for a championship are too great.
Iirc he didn't sleep at all or had come straight from a game when he got traded to Toronto and he still went all out his first game. And, in the playoffs, he talked about having no switch because he had never been in the playoffs and just sort of went all out 24/7 (he also got pissed in a motivating way at the other raptors when they seemed sort of resigned after losing game 1 to Milwaukee)
Stay away from dork Elvis
Tbh, Morey probably goes for that. Assets and use of that to help build for a championship are too great.
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https://youtu.be/9HDH1wbIi2o
I love this dude already. He was seriously an acquisition I wanted
Feels like a part of bev is back
I love this dude already. He was seriously an acquisition I wanted
Feels like a part of bev is back
Everything has indicated Indiana was looking for multiple draft picks.
Which makes no sense for a player like PG.
All I can surmise from that is Blake was one wrong move away from both Morris twins letting him have it.
DaytimeWhiskey
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I could be drunk, but how does that indicate they were looking for multiple draft picks when they settled for exactly 0 draft picks
Hyperactivity
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https://mobile.twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/881380856635326464
THATS MY POINT GOD WOOO
Brian Windhorst said:
THATS MY POINT GOD WOOO
Caddywompus
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I remember HOU being interested in him last trade deadline but I figure PHX was asking too much then he went for Sullinger and a bag of chips. For some reason I was thinking he was younger, must be confusing him with TJ Warren.
But like you said that versatility off the bench being able to shift to 4 for small ball lineups is a huge get.
Because they wanted lesser return.
Great move.
sf2fanatic
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We saved 6.5m today in releasing Black
slightconfuse
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Rockets going all in this year I like it
Gotta admire the competitive spirit of HOU. I personally don't think they have much of a chance against a healthy GS but the games should be a blast to watch.
BlazinSkatinAxel
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#IggyBack #dragonballsuper
LyleLanley
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I would rather die.
Hell of a deal
Caddywompus
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What's Ainge doing not collecting assets? Woj says BOS turned down a S&T involving Amir Johnson for Jahlil Okafor? Did Pritchard break his spirit?
Cornbread78
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Either Danny has 2 FA moves in mind and needs max cap space, or Philly would have gotten some kind of trade exception out of it, imo.
LyleLanley
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Okafor is a waste of cap space.
Caddywompus
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It's just funny how quickly these teams gave up on #2 and #3 picks from only 2 years ago.
If Ainge just doesn't use his assets on a great star like Melo I will boycoot the C,,
Caddywompus
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Not even the Mighty Ainge can collect enough assets to travel back in time.
SparkleMotion
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Imagine if Boston had a competent front office.
Macadinho94
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Celts need a reliable scorer in the play-offs and Melo will give them that. If I was a C's fan I wouldn't bawk at that depending what kind of deal he signs though
Imagine if you had a competent front office.
At this point the Celtics will pay Gallanari 20 million a year so him in Bradley can combine for 82 games.
CassidyIzABeast
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Hopefully Hayward stays strong during the meeting when the Jazz front office and his buddy Ingles are in there crying like babies trying to get him to stay.