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darkwing-buck
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Im pretty sure he's referring to Drummond as a player. He solves the issue of rebounding for you guys but his defense is very suspect.
Probably best to stay away.
Peter Ian Staker
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Are teams desperate enough to dump salary to give a good center for a 2nd rounder?
Danny will try to lowball everyone again.
For good reason after the last season and a half.
They can scoop a serviceable big men quite easily using the MLE, mini or minimums. Not that concerned about that.
I'm sure Danny has the base of a deal lined up, but I'm far more interested in what he has planned to deal one of Smart, Bradley and Crowder. One has to go.
If you're the Kings, you wouldn't take Crowder and Memphis pick for WCS? Would seem to be a pretty decent return given their frontcourt and the moves they've made so far.
I'm sure Danny has the base of a deal lined up, but I'm far more interested in what he has planned to deal one of Smart, Bradley and Crowder. One has to go.
If you're the Kings, you wouldn't take Crowder and Memphis pick for WCS? Would seem to be a pretty decent return given their frontcourt and the moves they've made so far.
Because Boston have desirable enough assets to make it work. IE lots of future picks. Jae Crowder to play SF ect. Plus having too many bigs stuck in a logjam that doesn't allow them enough minutes to properly develop would just be Sacramento wasting assets.
Boston get a good defensive asset and dont have to give up much salary because WCS is cheap.
Sacramento clear a logjam and allow Papagiannis, Skal, Giles, Koufos and Zbo to share the PF/C minutes while aquiring a good player on a very good contract (Crowder) and a nice future asset or 2.
darkwing-buck
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looooooooool D.Rose meeting with the clippers
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246750/Derrick-Rose-To-Meet-With-Clippers
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246750/Derrick-Rose-To-Meet-With-Clippers
Ninja Scooter
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I think they value WCS fairly high.
Boston is all in on Hayward. The Nets 2018 pick should be availiable for WCS.
It's not a totally unreasonable deal, but the Kings seem to like WCS and he was a very recent lottery pick. I doubt they bite.
unknownstranger
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Clippers pick has a solid chance to not even end up being a 1st rounder.
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Hold up.
Who is their center if WCS gets traded?
ZBo can play some minutes at the 5, sure. And then it's Papagiannis. They don't really have a frontcourt jam, unless I'm forgetting someone
Wouldn't surprise me if Giles is redshirted, and in any case, Kings will probably be slow with him, put him on the d-league or make him a 3rd string rotation player to start.
I forgot Koufos, but honestly, why would the Kings give up WCS over Koufos?
darkwing-buck
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I have a feeling the Kings are still gonna stink
Peter Ian Staker
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Harry Giles?
Lionel Richie
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I guess, but I'm a huge fan of his for whatever reason lol. I still think that under the right circumstances he could be a beast. But yeah you guys are probably right and he would be a poor fit on President Stevens scheme anyway.
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No duh, but they have a good young core.
Skal is a 4 and a big that plays more from the outside/with his jump shot
Kings have cap space. They can afford to chase a big money C if they still want one. They can go after Alex Len or accept Tyson Chandler in a salary dump.
Boston need the big they recieve to be as cheap as possible so they dont have to give up too much salary. With that in mind WCS is the only big that suits their needs and they should overpay for him with some of their "Assets"
Edit: Even if Giles Redshirts after Hypothetically trading WCS for Crowder + Picks Sacramento's rotation is still
STARTERS Hill Buddy Crowder Skal Koufos
Bench Fox Temple Richardson Zbo Papagianis
With Jackson and Giles playing in the G league. Thats a nice "rebuilding" roster.
Corran Horn
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Hey nice...lol
Edit I think this is the most Kings talk I've seen here.
Ninja Scooter
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he's not that great defensively and is almost unplayable in the clutch because of his FT shooting. That kind of player is becoming out of vogue around the league.
Vault Dweller 111
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He really did us dirty twice jist so he could post some awkward horribly written article?
I hope he gets Carl Crawford'd out in Boston.
I hope he gets Carl Crawford'd out in Boston.
friskykillface
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Hayward should live in newton / chestnut hill
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Do it Ainge
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Do it Ainge
I can't believe Indy wouldn't wait for Smart, Bradley, and a pick in the 20s.
Len is actually awful
Chandler is what 33 on that contract?
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You keep looking at this from a Celtics perspective. No shit they would take WCS. Why would the Kings do it, especially with their whole youth movement thing?
LoL Zizic isn't ready for big minutes in the NBA yet. Crowder and Smart for Vucevic or something like that.
I mean, that's a much better return than what Pritchard ended up accepting
Lmao no
Lionel Richie
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I know, he probably isn't the best idea for Boston. But I really wouldn't mind him as a situational player, kind of like TT is for the Cavs. Problem is his value in a trade would be too high for that and his contract is ridiculous for that role.
Eww vucevic stinks
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Nah, it really isn't. Oladipo is still pretty good and Sabonis was the 12th pick in the 2016 draft and had a pretty decent rookie year (had some issues with the rookie wall later in the season though)
Because the Kings have too much youth. You cant play 5 rookies and expect them to develop. You can only really have 2 or 3 rookies on the floor at once if you want them to develop quickly.
Furthermore Sacramento would be likely getting the Lakers or Brooklyn picks. Having potentially 2 more lottery picks in a class that is loaded with big men rather then paying WCS in a year makes a lot of sense for them.
Vucci Mane is PU
I'd trade Crowder for him with zero hesitation.
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Hill-Buddy-3-ZBo-WCS
That's 2 youth/rookies. Buddy went into the draft as a senior too, doesn't entirely count.
Oh, you're saying that Boston trades one of the Brooklyn/Lakers picks... lol that ain't happening
Peter Ian Staker
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Nothing says youth movement like signing 35 year old Zach Randolph and 31 year old George Hill to the same positions as you are drafting players.
Maybe they do value WCS more, but from the Celtics perspective, you can get that level of production pretty easily through exceptions. WCS would be ideal because they'd allow the Celts to flip a valuable wing for a lower salary at a position of need.
I'm not too worried about the big man spot, though. In case people hadn't noticed, bigs aren't getting contracts.
If Russell and Lin are healthy the Nets wont be a bottom 5 team. Right now is a great time to cash out on that asset.
Edit: also Zbo wont start. He's a bench guy/veteran leaderhip guy now.
Kings also won't get Otto Porter so their SF is either Temple, Richardson or Jackson. Crowder is a nice upgrade from those guys and brings another stable high character voice into a young locker room.
Oh same but he's not a big I'm interested in at all.
darkwing-buck
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Lol, they're gonna be bad even with healthy D'lo.
Hahaha alrighty. This reminds me of kids trying to get the toy they prefer from a friend "cmon trade with me, this one is SO much cooler!"
Corran Horn
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huh? It totally shows a youth movement. The team needs a few vets to go with the young players. We had no other PG besides maybe bring back Ty Lawson and hopefully Randolph will help develop our bigs.
Lionel Richie
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This is probably a sore subject, but a guy who would be awesome for Boston would be Derrick Favors.