darkwing-buck
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TOO SOON
Oladipo is on a terrible contract and has shown no indication that he will ever be as good as Bradley. Bradley is also a much more valuable trade asset. Smart and Sabonis are probably a wash re value at the end of the day. And the Pacers didn't get any picks from OKC somehow. The Memphis pick could very well be in the lottery.
I was really high on favors, but his whole lower body is a mess. Hips and knees. Too bad, he could've been a defensive force and a double double machine.
Hyperactivity
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Bradley and Smart are both on expiring contracts smh...
MetalFearSolid
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Raptors have been looking to trade him. Since Ibaka could play C and more comfortable there.
You have seen the West right? Its going to be really easy for LA, Pheonix, Sacramento and whoever else tanks (Dallas? Portland?) To lose games.
Then in the east you have The Knicks who arguably have a worse roster and are free agent poison. Detroit, Chicago,Orlando, and Atlanta and they are all likely tanking.
Thats up to 10 teams that are tyring to lose games that the Nets could end up with a better record then since they are trying to win. Besides WCS is a mature developed version of the player Boston would want to use that pick on anyway. WCS fits their timeline much better then a rookie project.
Then in the east you have The Knicks who arguably have a worse roster and are free agent poison. Detroit, Chicago,Orlando, and Atlanta and they are all likely tanking.
Thats up to 10 teams that are tyring to lose games that the Nets could end up with a better record then since they are trying to win. Besides WCS is a mature developed version of the player Boston would want to use that pick on anyway. WCS fits their timeline much better then a rookie project.
Lionel Richie
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Yeah, it's sad because he could have been a star. I think that even with health issue (if they don't get worse) he will continue to be productive in the NBA, there's too much talent there.
He rebounds and would score with ease in the Celtics offense. He'd help them considerably with their current big situation which is non existent.
I think the idea is that he is on an expiring contract coming off knee surgery + bad year. Buy relatively low and see if his body rebounds. He's still only 25.
Their rebounding sucks, but their interior difference is worse. He does nothing to address that issue.
Gary Washburn saying the Hawks may be a landing spot for Crowder.
Honestly, any of the three are easily dealable so I'm not too worried about it.
Wow - I don't agree. They traded the only guy who won them games last year. I have a hard time envisioning them avoiding the top 3 worst teams. Who is worse?
Honestly, any of the three are easily dealable so I'm not too worried about it.
Wow - I don't agree. They traded the only guy who won them games last year. I have a hard time envisioning them avoiding the top 3 worst teams. Who is worse?
Would Boston do that? I don't mean to poo on the parade... but it's Gordon Hayward.
No shit. I'd rather have tradable expirings + picks than an untradable bad contract. The Pacers gave up Paul George for another team's salary dump and the former 12th pick in a weak draft.
Do the right thing Wizards!
I believe they'll be even worse barring a fa signing or two. For a while there I thought the clippers had entered the game but for now they're safe.
Bottom teams will be - sun's, magic, kings, nets, pacers, hawks, lakers I'm sure I'm forgetting.
I think the kings signing hill and Randolph might propel them a bit, and if Booker and the you guys step up the sun's should be ok.
The Hawks entered the tank arena and the pacers as well. They have some talent there, but tanking is easy to accomplish in the NBA. Not to mention the nets have every reason to win, no reason to tank.
That's an easy match for the Wiz - they have nothing else to do.
I mean - we'll see? The landscape may be completely different by then, and there's still a bunch up in the air about cap projections moving forward. We don't even know what that contract would be.
Honestly, if anything I'm happy about the non-max years.
Lionel Richie
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Lakers. No way they don't suck this next season, Big Balls and all.
Edit: I'm an idiot who didn't see you mentioned the Lakers there lol.
Celebrate the Casspi signing with me. He's gonna light some teams up
in the regular season.
Here's why the Nets will win games.
Its a proven fact that in the NBA you can Inflate your win total by surrounding a ball dominant PG and a good mobile defensive C and 3pt shooters. Then you play fast and get an extra 10 wins just by playing with effort most nights.
Brooklyn have that with Russell, Lin and Mosgov. They are essentially a lite (Bad) version of last years Rockets team. They won't be over .500 but 30-40 wins is somewhat reasonable and that will be enough to take them out of the top 5 which will mostly be average teams in the Western Conference getting anihilated by a brutal conference.
Not your fault lol I edited it after the initial post.
Lionel Richie
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If the Nets as they are right now win 30-40 games I'll tattoo their logo on my ass.
MetalFearSolid
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Man I can't wait to watch a Lin and Russell backcourt defensively. That is a disaster waiting to happen.
Luckily you're not the gm right?
Over 50 percent of his minutes came at the 5 so I would hope he could play Center
Sometimes you have to give up assets.
Obviously. But 2 years ago in the west OKC almost made the playoffs (fell short by 1 game) playing Westbrook Waiters Morrow Augustin and Kanter lineups.
Defense matters if you are a good team, but bad/mediocre teams can just focus on offense and hope they outscore their opponents 40% of the time (which would be 32 wins)
Regarding the Jazz/Hayward situation, I'm not convinced that it's going to hurt them as much as one would think.
Hayward is a very good player and was their most important guy on offense, but I wouldn't call him a major game changer. Plus the Jazz are still a great defensive squad with excellent coaching and if they can make moves for a decent wing, see improvement from guys like Hood and maybe get some production out of Mitchell like the Bucks got from Brogdan, I can still see them in the 40-50 win range.
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Nets strike me as a team that won't be good in terms of wins but will consistently be competitive in every game.
Hayward is a very good player and was their most important guy on offense, but I wouldn't call him a major game changer. Plus the Jazz are still a great defensive squad with excellent coaching and if they can make moves for a decent wing, see improvement from guys like Hood and maybe get some production out of Mitchell like the Bucks got from Brogdan, I can still see them in the 40-50 win range.
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Nets strike me as a team that won't be good in terms of wins but will consistently be competitive in every game.
Not for Anthony Davis. Maybe for Zeller.
Lionel Richie
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Red Sox also winning 7-0 right now, what a great day for life.
Westbrook is an entire offense by himself. Lin and Russell are bench fodder at best. Russell that may change, but he'd be on the bench for most good teams. They also lost by far their best player from last season.
Jazz just probably slide Ingles right into Haywards spot and replace the production.
I can't tell if this is serious.
CassidyIzABeast
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Its not just a Westbrook thing though. In 2014/15 Atlanta won 60 games with a mediocre roster + playing fast. That same year Pheonix won 39 games. Im not saying the nets will win a lot of games. They will likely be sub .500. However playing fast will probably get them an extra 10 wins and make them a 30-40 win team rather then a 20-30 win team
You keep bringing up teams with talent.
That mediocre roster had horford, milsap, teague, korver at his peak, etc. Those 2 teams are literally NOTHING alike. This is stupid I don't know why I'm engaging in this convo.
Lakers played fast with an asstastic defense. They won lots of games last year.
MetalFearSolid
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damn Patrick Patterson lost a lot of money with his sorry playoff performance.