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NBA Offseason 2017 |OT| Only Big Ballers™ Allowed *please pay $495 to be a Big Baller

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spyder_ur

Member
I think Kelly deserves that contract. It's good in a vacuum.

That being said, I absolutely hate what Miami has done the last couple years. Blessed with a ton of FA space, they have given huge 4+ years to middle of the road, replaceable players or questionably dedicated players like Waiters, Whiteside, Kelly, Tyler Johnson, and James Johnson. None of terrible in a vacuum (except for the two Johnsons, arguably), but I feel pretty confident they'll be looking to get off of these deals in a year or two. Paying middling players big, long-term money kills franchises.

What're you gonna do when Ainge puts Riley under his boot, though?
 
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Dynomutt

Member
The prodigal sons returns. It was written NY is playoff bound.
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FZZ

Banned
Apparently Lonzo played like ass in Australia during the summer at UCLA

Don't know what to expect tomorrow anymore

ZuGOAT gonna lead us to the summer league title tho
 
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Sandfox

Member
FZZ said:
Apparently Lonzo played like ass in Australia during the summer at UCLA

Don't know what to expect tomorrow anymore

ZuGOAT gonna lead us to the summer league title tho
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Lonzo is banged up and hasn't played basketball since the tournament. The Lakers haven't had him practice against players either. Ingram also tweaked his ankle apparently.
 
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Boogs31

Member
Bread said:
That's a lot of money to tie up on 3 guys, Miami is riding that treadmill for the foreseeable future.
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I guess they believe the 30-11 record during the second half of last season is sustainable. I don't see it, especially considering Winslow is a tough fit for their offense with his lack of shooting. I also don't see Olynyk as anything close to a difference maker. If he's a teams 4th big man, he's fine. If he's a starter, he's simply not good enough.
 
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Corran Horn

May the Schwartz be with you
Can't wait to watch vinsanity to dunk!....in warmups....maybe.

I like the signing, cool that he doesn't care to chase a ring.
 
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TTG

Member
Dirk should sign with GSW for the minimum, not like Cuban will pay him any more. C'mon baby, all on board.
 
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Hyperactivity

Banned
https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/883163984836255745
Ian Begley said:
With @wojespn, Knicks' offer sheet to Tim Hardaway Jr. contains a 15% trade kicker, league sources told ESPN. 4th year is a player option.
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/883162813316857856
Shams Charania said:
Knicks' offer sheet to Tim Hardaway Jr. is $71M-plus and has final year salary of nearly $19M. Hawks have 2 days to decide whether to match.
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https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/883162278157099008
Sam Amick said:
The Hawks have planned on matching Tim Hardaway Jr.'s offer sheets, & here comes test: 4 yrs, $71 million offer sheet signed w/ NY. ESPN 1st
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And just for you Vault Dweller

https://twitter.com/brittanydiehl/status/883162209773264897
Brittany Copeland said:
Donovan Mitchell says he asked to guard Jayson Tatum in the 2nd half #jazz
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detectiveconan1

Member
spyder_ur said:
I think Kelly deserves that contract. It's good in a vacuum.

That being said, I absolutely hate what Miami has done the last couple years. Blessed with a ton of FA space, they have given huge 4+ years to middle of the road, replaceable players or questionably dedicated players like Waiters, Whiteside, Kelly, Tyler Johnson, and James Johnson. None of terrible in a vacuum (except for the two Johnsons, arguably), but I feel pretty confident they'll be looking to get off of these deals in a year or two. Paying middling players big, long-term money kills franchises.

What're you gonna do when Ainge puts Riley under his boot, though?
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Lol Stevens played a huge part in getting the Celtics Hayward.

Heat played really well when they were all healthy last year, and while I don't agree with the Johnson contract, I think it's worth a shot to see what the team can do.

I feel like it almost doesn't matter anyway as nobody is going to stop the Warriors anytime soon.
 
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msdstc

Incredibly Naive
There's that Tatum volume shooter efficiency. 12 pts on 12 shots. I agree he can get 20+ a night some day, but it'll take at the very least 17+ to do so.
 
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Hyperactivity

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https://twitter.com/JSports_ent/status/883164066147127297
@JSports_ent said:
I reported last week Knicks had received calls regarding Lee and they can move him if they need too.
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https://twitter.com/JSports_ent/status/883165309951242240
@JSports_ent said:
The preliminary talks had Anderson going to Portland but not sure they are ok with that yet. It's a fluid situation.
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https://twitter.com/JSports_ent/status/883161482757894144
@JSports_ent said:
This is a fact
Good luck. Our (Blazers) GM is notorious for moving slow and nibbling at the edges. Sigh.
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https://twitter.com/JSports_ent/status/883156874631278592
@JSports_ent said:
I know Rockets are motivated to do their part. NY also are ready to move on.
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spyder_ur

Member
detectiveconan1 said:
Lol Stevens played a huge part in getting the Celtics Hayward.

Heat played really well when they were all healthy last year, and while I don't agree with the Johnson contract, I think it's worth a shot to see what the team can do.

I feel like it almost doesn't matter anyway as nobody is going to stop the Warriors anytime soon.
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I guess it comes down to whether you really buy into that stretch at the end of the season. They still missed the playoffs. I don't like the combination of mid-range talent and personalities on that team, though I do believe in Spoelstra.

I agree about the Warriors shadow, which is why I think it's exactly the wrong move to lock yourself into long-term, high-money deals for middling talent. I would've guessed that the Heat strategy would've been keeping cap space open for next year.
 
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Hyperactivity

Banned
https://twitter.com/thekidet/status/883159496931069955
Evan Turner said:
Just hopped of the FaceTime with my guy @KellyOlynyk. Def stoked for his deal and living that Miami lifestyle
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spyder_ur said:
I guess it comes down to whether you really buy into that stretch at the end of the season. They still missed the playoffs. I don't like the combination of mid-range talent and personalities on that team, though I do believe in Spoelstra.

I agree about the Warriors shadow, which is why I think it's exactly the wrong move to lock yourself into long-term, high-money deals for middling talent. I would've guessed that the Heat strategy would've been keeping cap space open for next year.
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It wasn't just the end of the season. 30-11 is more than half the season. Yes, teams have started really hot and then later cooled off, but still, that's well out of fluke territory.
 
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panthapanda

Member
THJr getting paid more than Dion Waiters? What??? I would've thought that Waiters would've set the price for him.

Oh well, moving on. Not worth it to match. That's way too much for him at this point in the rebuild.

Edit: that fucking Hawks development tax. First DeMarre, then Bazemore, don't make that mistake again Hawks!
 
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darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Man I remember when everyone thought the Knicks ripped the Hawks off 2 years ago when they traded him for a late 1st round pick... and now they're somehow making a worse mistake by bringing him back.
 
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