friskykillface
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Holy shit at that contract
Wish I was tall - 6 foot 4 and I'd be D league at worst
Holy shit at that contract
Wish I was tall - 6 foot 4 and I'd be D league at worst
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Tim Hardaway Jr is pretty good, managed to snatch the starter position from the hawks. He'd getting overpaid here, but he's still pretty good
Shamrock7r
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Not sure how I feel about Rudy Gay yet: Contract is low risk at the very least
panthapanda
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Hawks were weak at the wing so I wouldn't necessarily say that was an accomplishment. THJ, imo, isn't a starter but he'll be an asset leading the bench unit.
Not at that price he's not.
No he's not. He's a decent three point shooter and that's it. He's got little to no off the bounce game and isn't much of a passer either. He essentially just jacks up threes and doesn't even do that at an elite level. He's not a defensive stopper either. He's a bench caliber player that happened to start on a mediocre Hawks team.
The Brooklyn Nets have one of the most competent front offices in the East right now which yeah
Ninja Scooter
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$70 million for glorified a D leaguer
panthapanda
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Yeah, exactly lol. Knicks are paying him starter money when he's really a role player. It's exactly the same situation with what the Hawks did with Bazemore.
beat
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https://twitter.com/kevinarnovitz/status/883171473916964864
Lord. Of course this is not only a tremendous overpay but it's for a player they initially drafted and traded away for Derrick Rose. The Knicks are really something.
Lord. Of course this is not only a tremendous overpay but it's for a player they initially drafted and traded away for Derrick Rose. The Knicks are really something.
Jaylen I think can be great. Hayward is great. IT is great but fatally flawed not to mention the hip. Horford is alright, definitely not part of a big 3 but with the right players is really good. Ab is meh and not worth much given his price tag next season will be too high. Marcus has a relentless motor and can defend 1 all the way to sometimes 4 effectively... On the flip side he is an offensive nightmare, arguably the worst shooter ever. Jae is decent especially at his price. I'm low on the Tatum pick and have been. His specialty is a low efficiency form of scoring.
I don't read too much into summer league stats, just certain aspects of their game, their athleticism, footwork, etc. I definitely wouldn't read much into his rebounds.
Is what it is. The book is out on him, he has a lot of skill, great footwork, can get to the rim albeit not against actual NBA level defenders. Just take note of the time Josh Jackson played him and shut him down. His specialty is once again an inefficient dying art. His range needs work. All of that said I believe hell adapt and be able to score 20 ppg or more, but again on sheer volume. This would be fine if he had elite or even significant defensive upside, but he just doesn't seem to have much there.
Rookie excuse is fine, however you CAN project athleticism, which really won't change much at this point. Again not a fan of him at #3.
Kelly olynyk and Adam morrison destroyed summer league. Tatum is likely playing lesser competition than some of the teams he went against in college here. You can take certain things away, which again he's very skilled, but he takes a lot of difficult shots.
Also he played pretty "awesome" in 2 games and lousy in 1. He was shut down tonight by a good defender. A lot of teams have those stoppers and he appears to struggle against players like that quite a bit. Besides it doesn't change the fact that he's a volume shooter. He needs to be able to hit threes and get to the line more often if he's going to rely as heavily as he does on that mid range game.
Knicks greatness on display, fire the GM and have the temp make long term decisions
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SmhKnicks greatness on display, fire the GM and have the temp make long term decisions
Phil Jackson, Masai ujiri, and Pat Riley are/were all president of basketball operations. Btw, that's Magic's role too (he's gonna get confused in a similar manner soon enough)
I get that, but he was the GM in the sense that he makes the moves.
NoctisVsStar
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Fuck the Knicks sick and tired of their shit.
Hyperactivity
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https://twitter.com/RedNationHoops/status/883186666717958144
https://twitter.com/RedNationHoops/status/883186934897557504
Im starting to expect the melo trade to seriously happen. Shit, now I've got expectations...
Salman Ali said:
https://twitter.com/RedNationHoops/status/883186934897557504
Salman Ali said:
Im starting to expect the melo trade to seriously happen. Shit, now I've got expectations...
Crowder isn't really anything special.
Hyperactivity
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Crowder isn't moving for a first...
To be more accurate, a first isn't moving for Crowder
Frozenprince
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Houston can have him for a Wendy's 4 for $4 and not a penny less.
Hyperactivity
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Sure, I'll take it.
They only get two of our human trade exceptions players though. No more.
I would be shocked if Crowder can't fetch a protected first. I'm struggling to think of an equivalent player in his mid-20's on a cost-controlled contract like that not netting one or equivalent value. I mean, 36 year old Kyle Korver on an expiring contract netted a first this year.
LyleLanley
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He's not a superstar or anything but he's a solid player on a great contract.
I don't think he's worth a great first but he's certainly worth a first from some team.
Caddywompus
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Nah I bet Morey would toss the 2020 1st rd pick in there too. Morey doesn't like picking that late in the first rd, he'd rather have that high 2nd rd pick so he can use the salary cap money and structure the contract differently to avoid 2 year guaranteed scaled salary in a rookie 1st rd pick and bypass the exercise options in the last two years
LyleLanley
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I guess Ray isn't getting his number retired.
darkwing-buck
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I guess Ray isn't getting his number retired.
That sucks he burned the bridge with Boston.
LyleLanley
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I don't think he deserved to have his number retired either way. I love everything he did for the team but I feel like the bar should be higher than that.
Hyperactivity
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Garnett did more, yeah, but what about rondo in that case?
Well we'd need a 2nd round pick or two back in there in that case
LockOfTheWeek
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I wouldn't have thought any of them besides Pierce should have their jerseys retired there.
LyleLanley
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Rondo probably doesn't get retired, he did some awesome things but it was kind of a weird career. He was captain for a while though so who knows?
KG is definitely getting his number retired.
Peter Ian Staker
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Ainge has to be high if he thinks he is getting a first out of Bradley/Smart/Crowder.
The Billy King trade was only 4 years ago. Nobody is giving you firsts for trash ever again.
LyleLanley
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None of those guys are trash though. All three of them are definitely worth at least a protected first.
RiggityRice
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Which contract is worse? Luol Deng or Tim hardaway jr?
Deng has age against him.. but provides veteran knowledge. Tim jr has??
Deng has age against him.. but provides veteran knowledge. Tim jr has??
panthapanda
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Hey, Timmy could put up 40 one night and then go cold for the rest of the season. At least you got one good game out of him.
RiggityRice
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Deng isn't the best player I know but still knowledge of the game can go a long way for a young core. Not just one game.
Peter Ian Staker
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Top 25 protected for Avery Bradley because he is a good 3 and D guy and that's about it. Nobody is paying firsts for Marcus Smart and Jae Crowder. Mediocre players on good contracts are still mediocre.
Caddywompus
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I'm going laugh if Ainge somehow convinces Utah to give up a pick for Crowder because he could send him somewhere else for a pick to clear the cap space and forget the S&T
I guess Ray isn't getting his number retired.
Lmao, fake Celtics don't get their numbers retired.
Vault Dweller 111
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I hope Ainge undervalues Crowder as much as this thread.
friskykillface
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Ray needed to win in 2010 to get his number retired
His impact wasn't as big as KG tbh
Ray was a key piece but he went ghost so much in the 2008 playoffs x that 2010 game 3
Lol no field goals made at home
🐐Hayward will finish the fight
Halo 3 anniversary
His impact wasn't as big as KG tbh
Ray was a key piece but he went ghost so much in the 2008 playoffs x that 2010 game 3
Lol no field goals made at home
🐐Hayward will finish the fight
Halo 3 anniversary
Worst morning. Lost my wallet. Total freak out mode
I lost mine on a bus when I was in college, surprisingly was able to go to their lost and found and got it back untouched.
Cornbread78
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Worst morning. Lost my wallet. Total freak out mode
Danny did it again!!!
Jokes aside, that sucks bad. Last time I did that, it was in my car thankfully! Hopefully, you find it....
That guy is a complete joke and has absolutely no track record at all. Unless they are verified don't listen to any trade rumors from rando's on Twitter.
Martylepiaf
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Ray Allen won't have his jersey retired anywhere, will he ? it's sad.
Know i took it out at a restaurant after golfing. Hoping it's there when I call later.