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- Thread starter Jarate
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No way Boston or anyone should give up that much for KP. That's more like a package a team would give up for a current superstar. KP is currently a really solid young player, but he's not even a top 20 guy yet. You'd give up a top 5 pick, last year's number 3 pick, a likely top 5 pick next year, and a solid role player on a great contract for KP? That's insane.
I think a fair package would be this years number 3 pick, Crowder and maybe Boston's own first round pick next year that should be in the 20's. Anything more than that would be WAY over valuing Porzingis.
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
tbh, I wouldn't ditch Parker either. Dude ran out of gas from the Olympic stuff he was involved with. Remember France had to do a play in tournament for one of the spots prior to the Olympics. Pop tried to talk him out of it.
If he took that summer off, he would've been more effective during the season.
If he took that summer off, he would've been more effective during the season.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Trading Crowder would be so dumb. JB / 3 pick / a Boston 1st will be enough to get it done. Crowder is absurd value you don't give up in a deal like this.
Whatever's happening with Porzingis, I just need it to happen so I can be put out of my misery and stop having my heart skip a beat every time a B/R notification pops on my phone. Granted it's partly karma for being a Yankees/Giants fan, but being a Knicks fan is really fucking awful, 95% of the time.
friskykillface
Banned
oh god i disagree. Overrated defensively, and an inconsistent 3 point shooter. Not to mention an injury machine.
DragonSword
Banned
better not get rid of gary harris
it says trading down. Doubt it'd be a player involved.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Yes hes a better player but the point is you keep Crowder because hes a great player on an absurd team friendly contract.
AgentChris
Member
Wait PJ is trying to get the 3 and 7 to go with 8? wtf.
If he does that I will give him props.
If he does that I will give him props.
DragonSword
Banned
I misread that then......I thought they were going for a better pick
Agreed Crowder and Terry Rozier are untouchable.
I get that Crowder is on a great contract, but you value him over Brown? I couldn't disagree with that more. Brown is 20 years old and showed great signs as a rookie. He's already got more of an all around offensive game than Crowder. Crowder also isn't getting any better. Brown's rookie contract is a pretty great contract as well.
DragonSword
Banned
yes......I would easily get rid of those two and maybe the 3rd for him.............7th guarantee with those 2 though.
3rd pick though i would try to keep
Well damn, you owe us for KG Danny, get us a decent vet
Pretty much. I never know JC or JB were so highly valued.
Cornbread78
Member
friskykillface
Banned
MVP Jaylen beat LeBron James in 1 game in the ECF
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The 3rd pick is what this trade is all about though, that's not happening. The Knicks love Jackson.
Generational talents are guys like LeBron, Duncan, Anthony Davis that are basically superstars as soon as they enter the league. Porzingis has played two seasons already and is not even an all star yet, let alone a superstar. He's a nice complementary player right now, but you don't throw all your assets you have to get a dude that averages 18 points and 7 rebounds.
DragonSword
Banned
screw it then, give them the 3rd and keep the 7th
Jackson is not a consistent enough shooter.....Ainge going to be drafting defensive player again who can't shoot
oh wait.....its Ainge XD
averaged 20 and 8 per 36 last year in a dysfunctional system, and has elite tools for both sides of the court. His ability is generational for sure.
Duxxy3
Member
We're talking about a 7'3" athletic 3 point shooter who is also a great defender. Hell yes I'm selling the farm for this guy.
friskykillface
Banned
Porzingis helps the Celtics get a legit big too
Going from playoff Amir to Porzingis, my god
Going from playoff Amir to Porzingis, my god
Randolph Freelander
Member
The sad thing about this draft is there's no Plumlee available.
Last year was the last one (Marshall), and he went undrafted (signed with Knicks).
Last year was the last one (Marshall), and he went undrafted (signed with Knicks).
I like Porzingis. I think he could turn into a great player. But it's not guaranteed. And no he's not a generational talent, he's a guy that can hit threes and protect the rim. Those are rare, but they exist. Serge Ibaka can do both of those things.
This is the perfect marriage of building for the future while competing now. Go get Hayward and we're contending for years.
it's funny seeing how many people are all about "assets" when it comes to this deal. KP is better than just about anything you can get otherwise. I love jaylen but his ceiling isn't remotely close to KP.
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see the fact that you just compared ibaka and porzingis.... sorry not gonna take you seriously.
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see the fact that you just compared ibaka and porzingis.... sorry not gonna take you seriously.
slightconfuse
Banned
Bradley Crowder and #3 for zinger
Other than the 7"3 bit you're describing Serge Ibaka.
And one is 21 and the other is injured half the time and "29"
LOL @ PG13, Thibs is crazy to spend a lottery pick on a 1 year rental..
Lionel Richie
Member
Damn Phil, take #3, Jaylen and Crowder for the Porzingod, you don't need the Nets pick next year, Dlo is taking them to the playoffs.
Ibaka averaged 15 points and 7 rebounds. Porzingis 18 and 7. They aren't significantly different players right now. Yes, I understand Porzingis is young and could improve, while Ibaka has already peaked, but are we confident the Porzingis we've seen thus far isn't just what you're going to get?
If PG13 goes to Minnesota I'm becoming a TWolves fan. My brother has season tickets there and sent me some shirts, so everything is set up for my Pacers betrayal.
What player has peaked in their 2nd year outside of Brandon Jennings?
Yes I have. The only difference is KP has a little more of an off the bounce game. Neither of them have anything resembling a post game.
Not sure you want this man, Twolves fandom is not for the faint of heart