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NBA Offseason Thread! All offseason NBA talk in THIS thread!

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Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
bishoptl said:
Why the hell is Lue holding a jersey? He's gone as a free agent shortly anyways!

He didnt opt out of his contract so the trade could work.I think the rockets have his tiny butt for the whole year,most likely will be the backup pg.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.

DMczaf

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So sexy...
 

DMczaf

Member
TRACY McGRADY

On coming to Houston and the enthusiasm of the fans:
"In my seven years, I have never seen anything like this. I appreciate the love ... I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston. And believe me, something great is going to happen."

On his play fitting with Coach Van Gundy's style:
"I'm coming here with the attitude (that) I'm going to let this guy coach me. I feel I'm a coachable player. Whatever I have to do to sacrifice, that's what I'm going to do, so I think I'm going to fit in great."

On how the Western Conference is different:
"Playing on the East it's a lot more challenging because the Eastern Conference has a lot of great guards and every night I really had my work cut out for me. On the West, it's made of a lot of big men and I hope that I come here and do what I did in the Eastern conference and try to do it better and hopefully turn this franchise around."

On how long he's planning to stay in Houston:
"I'm looking to end my career here in Houston."

On playing with Yao Ming:
"It is truly a blessing to have a guy like Yao Ming who I think is going to be dominant in his league. I'm coming here to try and help him get better and he is only going to help make the game much easier for me so I'm excited about him."

:D
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
LMAO@Weisbrod

Orlando Magic general manager John Weisbrod believes his team will be a whole lot better without departed star Tracy McGrady.

Weisbrod took some parting shots Wednesday at his former player, implying McGrady wasn't capable of leading a winning team.

"It starts with how you define a superstar," Weisbrod said. "I think a superstar is defined by wins, by making the players around him better and by making the team better. On that part, my perception is a little different than most."

You gotta be kidding me. Fuck you, buddy.


http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/7462721
 

DMczaf

Member
LMAO! What an ass. The day before the trade he was still pulling that "Keeping McGrady is still an option.." crap.

T-Mac said management wouldn't even talk to him after the season, wouldn't tell him their draft plans, their plans for the season, how's Grant Hill, etc
 

ChumsGum

Banned
All those Chinese Rockets fans will now buy new Tmac jerseys and shoes; very smart move Tmac. Now if they can get Derek Fisher on their team.
 

Miguel

Member
Mc....Mc-Gra-Dy....Mc-Gra-Dy....

TMac's the man....going to play.
Got his ball, got court vision
2nd round of the playoffs is RIGHT in his grasp...
it's the "Dream"...he will never let die...

TMac's the...man of the hour, he's the king of his court
Western conference guards have finally met their rival...
Tracy McGrady's headed straight for the top...
He knows one day he's up to become....


Gah, I can't think of the last word.
 

DMczaf

Member
Damn! Suns didnt waste any time

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1832381

PHOENIX -- Robert Sarver completed the $401 million purchase of the Phoenix Suns on Wednesday. Now he might be primed for another $100 million investment.

A source told ESPN's David Aldridge that the Suns are prepared to offer Los Angeles Lakers free agent guard Kobe Bryant a six-year deal in excess of $100 million. The Suns can make an offer any time after 12:01 a.m. ET Thursday, the first allowable time for free agents to be contacted. The source also told Aldridge that the Suns will try to meet with Bryant's representatives on Friday in Los Angeles.
 

kevm3

Member
The disparities in facial expressions between McGrady and Francis are hilarious...

Francis looks like he smells shit but wants to remain cordial.
McGrady looks like a kid that just got a brand new video game system.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
DMczaf said:
Damn! Suns didnt waste any time

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1832381

PHOENIX -- Robert Sarver completed the $401 million purchase of the Phoenix Suns on Wednesday. Now he might be primed for another $100 million investment.

A source told ESPN's David Aldridge that the Suns are prepared to offer Los Angeles Lakers free agent guard Kobe Bryant a six-year deal in excess of $100 million. The Suns can make an offer any time after 12:01 a.m. ET Thursday, the first allowable time for free agents to be contacted. The source also told Aldridge that the Suns will try to meet with Bryant's representatives on Friday in Los Angeles.

Wow... I knew the Suns were trying to be players when they moved those players for cap space in the draft....
 

Shinobi

Member
Bowser said:
East: Bobcats
West: T-Wolves

But I may have to change that West team to the Rockets now :p

WTF...you'd leave a team with KG that's finally a title contender???

DMczaf said:

Hakeem actually playing a game for us??? Talk about a rare image. I bet that white guy swatted his shit away too.



Meier said:
Oh and fuck Tracy McGrady for turning tail and bolting out of here. The Magic had 12 years in a row at .500 or better and we have one shitty season and he bolts? What a fucking bitch. Motherfucker is born and raised in Central Florida and he cant stick around? He should have been a lifer. I hate him as much as Kobe now. And I hate Steve Francis too because now Jameer Nelson wont turn into a stud until he goes somewhere else and gets playing time a la T-Mac. This fucking sucks!

Like Orion said, now you know how we feel...suck it up. At least you got something for T-Mac.

And what's with that lifer talk...O-town isn't where he started boy.

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Ah, what could've been...



Matrix said:
No team from Canada was ever going to win the NBA championship....Tmac was smart enough to know that :p

Funny, they said that about the Blue Jays too...

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Bowser said:
For all you Raps fans...

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Cloudy said:
LOL, I just OWNED some un-informed, Bron jocking (probably) article writer.

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1088328665108430.xml

I read this sports rant article on Sunday and caught this paragraph:



I thought to myself, "this guy is so clueless, I gotta email him"

I saw his email at the end of the page and sent him this:



I didn't check my email again till now and I saw 2 messages from him in my inbox lol



The media is full of Steven A. Smiths!! >_<


PS: WTF am I doing defending T-Mac? o_O

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Again, you people wonder why I say "fuck the media"? There's exhibit number 38568332. I guess AI wasn't second in scoring this year either.
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DMczaf said:
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"Sorry, I cant comment on any trade rumors. We are still fielding options, one of those options being T-Mac staying."

Bowser said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1832195

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"I don't know what ESPN's talking about, there isn't even a trade in the works! If there was, wouldn't you think I'd tell you?


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Matrix said:
And I loved his answer on whether he will leave us at the end of the season. Les said he can't comment. TMAC threw out the "I am here to stay till the end".

..."of the season, then I'm outta here!"

BTW, what's with all the surprise regarding the Suns offering Kobe a big contract? Everybody knows they're one of the few teams that were gonna go after him, one of the few teams that can afford to go after him, and they're one of the few teams Kobe would consider going to (Clippers and Spurs being the others...the Nuggets are a pipe dream with the history he has there now). The question is who do the Lakers get to compliment Kobe.
 

Cloudy

Banned
A source told ESPN's David Aldridge that the Suns are prepared to offer Los Angeles Lakers free agent guard Kobe Bryant a six-year deal in excess of $100 million. The Suns can make an offer any time after 12:01 a.m. ET Thursday, the first allowable time for free agents to be contacted. The source also told Aldridge that the Suns will try to meet with Bryant's representatives on Friday in Los Angeles.

Bryant, who is facing an August trial in Eagle, Colo., on sexual assault charges, can re-sign with the Lakers for seven years and around $130 million. The Los Angeles Clippers are also very interested in Bryant, according to various reports.

It begins ;)
 

Cloudy

Banned
Weisbrod, McGrady didn't mesh
The GM concedes that the team's ex-star wasn't his type of player so he didn't push for T-Mac to stay.

By Brian Schmitz | Sentinel Staff Writer
Posted July 1, 2004

The only thing more blunt than the question was Orlando Magic General Manager John Weisbrod's answer. And it went a long way to explaining why Tracy McGrady was in Houston on Wednesday as a former employee of the club.

"Would it be fair to say that Tracy is not your type of player?"

"Yes," Weisbrod said.

A day after McGrady said the Magic wanted him out and didn't try to persuade him to stay, Weisbrod lashed back at the superstar he traded to the Rockets on Tuesday in a multiplayer deal.

"He definitely said that he wanted out. I think both sides of it are true," Weisbrod said. " I think he made up his mind around the all-star break [in February] that he was out. I think they communicated that to us immediately after the season was over so that is definitely true.

"The fact that we didn't go chasing him down to change his mind, that I didn't call him on his birthday, that's true, too."

Asked if he would treat future stars in the same manner, Weisbrod said, "I'm not going to chase them down, say pretty please with sugar on top."

McGrady acknowledged to the Sentinel on Tuesday that he had difficulties with Weisbrod, a hard-nosed, no-nonsense former NHL player who replaced John Gabriel in March. "I don't like the way he handles things," McGrady said.

Weisbrod could say vice versa. While calling McGrady "arguably, the most physically talented player in the league," Weisbrod said the team was not going to progress if T-Mac returned and resembled the frustrated, unhappy star he was last season. He decided that for all his brilliance, McGrady was not conducive to creating a winning environment.

"Was it going to happen here, and was it going to happen in a way that was constructive?" Weisbrod asked. "And were we going to take a step forward next year instead of a step back? I don't think we would of."

Weisbrod has talked about changing the culture of losing that suffocated the Magic during a 21-61 season. He said he felt McGrady contributed to it by not acting like a driven leader and a committed professional, although he agreed that previous management did little to surround T-Mac with enough talent during his four seasons. Weisbrod wants to rebuild the club with passionate competitors, "guys who want to cover Kobe Bryant," he said. "Maybe he [McGrady] will develop into that, but he's not now."

His reference to Bryant may or may not have been a Freudian slip. When the Magic played the Lakers on March 15, they led Los Angeles by 11 at halftime, and Bryant had scored only one point. He erupted for 37 in the second half while also aggressively guarding McGrady in the fourth period to will the Lakers to a 113-110 victory in overtime at Staples Center.

When the Magic exited their bus to the team hotel, McGrady suggested that Weisbrod send the tapes of Bryant's roughhouse tactics against him to league headquarters . Weisbrod bristled at the notion, and angrily chastised McGrady for not playing defense on Bryant and matching his intensity.


Weisbrod still was fuming when reached his room. He then cooled off, called McGrady and explained to him that he only wanted to help him become the best player he could be.

According to one player and several other sources, there were other incidences in which Weisbrod looked at McGrady and didn't see his type of player.

Two days after the Magic lost to the Lakers, they were drilled by Golden State 110-85. After the game, McGrady questioned what the Magic -- 32 games under .500 -- were playing for, rankling Weisbrod and the coaching staff.

Weeks later, when a doctor or trainer was examining McGrady's left knee, which he said had been ailing him, he asked McGrady where it hurt. "Where do you want it to hurt?" McGrady was to have said, and it got back to Weisbrod.

The last straw, however, might have been March 28, when the Dallas Mavericks came to Orlando for a game televised on ABC. McGrady was sitting out because of the tendinitis in his knee. When interviewed during the game, he chastised his teammates and didn't exactly give Coach Johnny Davis, who had taken over after Doc Rivers had been fired in November, a glowing endorsement.

Weisbrod got a tape of the interview, gathered the team and played it in the locker room. He asked McGrady to explain himself in front of his teammates. McGrady apologized, but sources say Weisbrod "benched" McGrady after the incident. He effectively ended McGrady's season, and his Magic career, three days later by placing him on the injured list, without determining whether he could come back with seven games remaining.

By this time, according to Weisbrod, McGrady already had one foot out the door after letting the Magic know he wanted to be traded.

The Magic received point guard Steve Francis, guard Cuttino Mobley and center Kelvin Cato from the Rockets. Weisbrod was asked if Orlando came close to receiving equal compensation for its superstar.

"I think it starts with how you define a superstar," Weisbrod said. "I think superstars are defined by winning and making people around them better and making teams better. I think that part of it might have my perception a little bit different than most. I feel like we definitely got what we wanted. I felt like we definitely got value."

Weisbrod said the Magic "were better than we were yesterday," and added, "I'm definitely excited about our identity being different. Our identity was Tracy and supporting cast. I would like the identity of our teams going forward to be about team. It's a team sport."


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Odoul

Member
I hope the Lakers get burned on this and lose both stars AND Phil. They deserve it after this little episode. They're givin up the ass to Kolby and I hope they get fucked. I'm a Detroit fan and even I'm disgusted at what the Lakers management and press is trying to do to Shaq. Were they watching the same playoffs when Shaq went off pretty much when he wanted? And fuck this noise about letting Kobe and Shaq get theirs. Shaq TOOK his and ALL of the rest of LA played like absolute shit.
 

Cloudy

Banned
Contrary to what most people think, Kobe doesn't mind playing with Shaq that much. Shaq wants a trade cos he's not getting an extension that would pay him 100 plus million while he's 33 to 36 (WTF? Would you like your team to pay him that? lol) and crippling the Lakers cap at the same time. Kobe will not re-sign to play with Shaq and scrubs for a few more years so the Lakers are doing the right thing. Even if they lose Kobe and Shaq (which they won't), they'll get decent talent to rebuild for Shaq...
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
So has anyone heard about deals for Ray Allen? If so let me in... I see his name all over ESPN but with no rumor attached to it...
 

Shinobi

Member
Last rumour I heard was Allen for Francis, but I guess that's not happening.

Cloudy said:
Shaq wants a trade cos he's not getting an extension that would pay him 100 plus million while he's 33 to 36 (WTF? Would you like your team to pay him that? lol) and crippling the Lakers cap at the same time.

As opposed to giving a hundred mill for 7 years to someone who could be in jail for that long?
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Not that I disagree...Shaq isn't worth that now.

Funny how the shit flies only after the guy in question leaves town. The two Magic/Rockets tilts should be spectacular contests.
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
DMczaf said:
Damn! Suns didnt waste any time

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1832381

PHOENIX -- Robert Sarver completed the $401 million purchase of the Phoenix Suns on Wednesday. Now he might be primed for another $100 million investment.

A source told ESPN's David Aldridge that the Suns are prepared to offer Los Angeles Lakers free agent guard Kobe Bryant a six-year deal in excess of $100 million. The Suns can make an offer any time after 12:01 a.m. ET Thursday, the first allowable time for free agents to be contacted. The source also told Aldridge that the Suns will try to meet with Bryant's representatives on Friday in Los Angeles.

I heard Dade County Colorado is offering 4 to life
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Duke gives the Lakers permission to talk to Coach K espn news is reporting...wtf
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
dskillzhtown said:
He was invited, but he had some "personal business" he had to take care of.

dude's a bonified NBA journeyman who's biggest pro accomplishment was signing his name... you'd think he'd show a little more appreciation.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Ummm Howards Grandma is dying I think.
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
Matrix said:
Duke gives the Lakers permission to talk to Coach K espn news is reporting...wtf


Reportedly 8 million bucks a year for Coach K. If they were going to try to keep Shaq, I am thinking Rudy T would have gotten the job.
 

DMczaf

Member
Rockets a beacon among free agents
T-Mac, Yao make Houston attractive as destination for available guards
By JONATHAN FEIGEN
Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle

Tracy McGrady couldn't wait to get on the court and then didn't wait, putting himself through a brief workout at the Toyota Center practice court. The Rockets yearned to see how McGrady would change them. But they too will not have to wait for next season.

With their first phone calls about free agents today, the first day teams can talk to potential signees, the Rockets will likely receive a different reception now that the league's top scorer had been paired with an All-Star center, Yao Ming.

As Craig McKenzie, the agent for Charlie Ward, said of his client's interest: "Yes, Charlie is interested. Every (free agent) guard in the NBA is going to be interested in Houston."


This is not a bad way to begin free-agent recruiting. But the process of filling out a team that just traded 60 percent of its starting lineup promises to be a great deal more complicated than dialing the phone number.

There was no mystery about where the Rockets will look.

"Obviously, when you lose three starters off a team, you have things you need to address," Rockets coach Jeff Van Gundy said. "Point guard is one, and backup center is another. We'll see what presents itself. But again, it's not about having an All-Star at every position. It's about building a team that fits, and that's why we want to surround our best players with smart, serious, hard-working, tough-minded players."


Pursuing a point
Tyronn Lue — acquired with McGrady, Juwan Howard and Reece Gaines in this week's deal — is the only Rockets point guard under contract. The Rockets sent Mike Wilks a "tender" offer to return their rights to match any offer he receives as a restricted free agent.

But the Rockets will be active in chasing another point guard. They go into free agency well over the salary cap but armed with a mid-level exception, expected to start at about $5 million a year, to spend, and a trade exception of $6.9 million in a sign-and-trade deal for a free agent.

They might first, however, look into chasing point guards with vastly different styles. Derek Fisher, Troy Hudson and Ward are unrestricted free-agent point guards with experience playing with superstars. Brent Barry and Bob Sura can play either guard spot.

With McGrady, 25, and Yao, 23, so young, the Rockets likely will seek a point guard who will not be past his prime when their best players reach theirs. But they also are likely to try to hold the line on the number of years they offer.


It comes down to value
"This is not just our team but every team in the NBA, when you're looking for the best player to fit what you need, but also for the best value," Van Gundy said. "There was no better value last year in the NBA than Jim Jackson. One guy may be a little bit better than another guy. But if his salary and number of years are going to throw your salary structure out of whack, you're better value may be here. You can't really know (whom they want most) until the market settles itself a bit. Where we invest our money might be where the best value is."

The agent for Fisher, Mark Bartlestein, said the Rockets are a team he and his client "certainly will take a look at." The agent for Hudson, Bill Neff, said the trade makes the Rockets "intriguing."


Backup center options
Brian Skinner, Etan Thomas and Adonal Foyle might be the sort of physical and versatile players the Rockets could seek in the backup centers/forward role Kelvin Cato played, though each could be priced out of the Rockets' reach.

But when they began recruiting today, the Rockets do have new reasons to expect to find players eager to listen.

"We're still trying to get the best team we can to win with," Rockets general manager Carroll Dawson said. "That does not change. When somebody is a free agent, they're not a free agent for everybody. This puts us in play a little more."
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
I DONT WANT WARD NOOOOOO WAY!!!!!! NO MORE FORMER KNICK SHIT!!!


Give me Barry,Fisher,Hudson,or Snow before his @ss.
 

DMczaf

Member
Matrix said:
I DONT WANT WARD NOOOOOO WAY!!!!!! NO MORE FORMER KNICK SHIT!!!


Give me Barry,Fisher,Hudson,or Snow before his @ss.

Its Gundy...Ward is coming. :(

Damn Gundy and his loyalty to former players!
 
Blackace said:
So has anyone heard about deals for Ray Allen? If so let me in... I see his name all over ESPN but with no rumor attached to it...

Supposedly people in Minny have been hearing on the radio that a deal involving Allen could go down in a couple of days. The deal involves sending Allen to the T-Wolves, T-Wolves sending Wally and Kandi to Boston and Boston sending Peirce to Seattle. Don't know if there is any truth to it since people like to make things up and pretend they heard it on their local radio stations. If something like that went down, Boston would be getting robbed. Ainge also wants the 7 footer that Seattle drafted involved in the deal.
 

Fifty

Member
That would be insane. Pierce, although he was cold near the end of last season, is a top player in this league and that deal wouldn't do him nearly enough justice.
 

UFC PRIDE

Member
It's all over the news, ESPN.com or whatever. Serious discussions of Coach K to the Lakers. I don't like Duke, I don't like the Lakers, but I hate Duke more - so this is good news! Especially considering us CARDINALS fans have the best coach in America in Rick Pitino - and we're going to draw oh so many more top recruits from Duke - it won't even be funny. We're already setup for the top recruiting class for 2005 - and #7 this year.

The decline of Duke will be a great thing.
 

Bowser

Member
UFC PRIDE said:
It's all over the news, ESPN.com or whatever. Serious discussions of Coach K to the Lakers. I don't like Duke, I don't like the Lakers, but I hate Duke more - so this is good news! Especially considering us CARDINALS fans have the best coach in America in Rick Pitino - and we're going to draw oh so many more top recruits from Duke - it won't even be funny. We're already setup for the top recruiting class for 2005 - and #7 this year.

The decline of Duke will be a great thing.

As a UNC fan...

IAWTP on everything except the Cardinals bit...clearly the best coach in America is Roy Williams.
 

Seth C

Member
UFC PRIDE said:
It's all over the news, ESPN.com or whatever. Serious discussions of Coach K to the Lakers. I don't like Duke, I don't like the Lakers, but I hate Duke more - so this is good news! Especially considering us CARDINALS fans have the best coach in America in Rick Pitino - and we're going to draw oh so many more top recruits from Duke - it won't even be funny. We're already setup for the top recruiting class for 2005 - and #7 this year.

The decline of Duke will be a great thing.

#7 according to who? Pitino's ass munchkin?
 

mercboyz

Member
Jim Grey reported on sportscenter that lakers have offered multi-year, multi-million contract to Coach K and are awaiting his response.
 
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